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Promo Card Frequency
« on: March 17, 2013, 08:01:12 pm »
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I currently have one promo card (Governor) and there appears to be a serious problem with its frequency of appearance--it's showing up in nearly half of my Professional games. Is anyone else with promo cards having this issue?
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 09:19:54 pm »
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I haven't noticed it with my promos (I think it might just be Governor). It's certainly not the case with my AI games (which I think are generated the same way, or at least I'd expect them to be).
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 09:32:28 pm »
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My Governor seems to show up a reasonable portion of the time.  Maybe just luck?  Has this been happening for long?
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 10:18:59 pm »
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I have Governor and Envoy. I would say they show up about normal, maybe a little less than normal, but not too terribly far behind from any of the other cards.

Is this in pro games or casual games that you are having this problem?
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 03:13:38 am »
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I only have Governor and it has only showed up once since I got it....

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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 08:25:03 am »
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None of my promos has shown up for me recently, but I'll chalk that up to random luck.
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 12:21:09 am »
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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this but the "random" selection of kingdom cards is not really all that random is it?

I mean if you create 10 games in a row you don't have an equal chance of seeing any of the cards you own show up in any given game.

I say this because it seems every time I play about 10 games on Goko there will be two or three cards that come up in every game or every second game.... this could just be my mind playing tricks on me but I don't think so.

If I'm right about this it could explain why some people would be seeing one or more of the promos all the time and others might be almost never seeing them...?

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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 12:24:24 am »
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People are terrible at detecting true randomness so it might be nothing.

(or it could be something) You probably should save the logs.
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 12:58:45 am »
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Doesn't Goko use onigame's kingdom picker? The one that tries to pick interesting kingdoms, and thus weights certain cards more heavily? Or was that changed?
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 01:27:19 am »
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Doesn't Goko use onigame's kingdom picker? The one that tries to pick interesting kingdoms, and thus weights certain cards more heavily? Or was that changed?

In theory, it doesn't use it anymore. His code is still on their site, though. I did a test today by generating a casual game from the multiplayer lobby and it didn't trip my breakpoint, so it doesn't look like the code was called. I might have had my breakpoint in the wrong place, though. I haven't spent that long examining Goko's code.
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Re: Promo Card Frequency
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 02:50:33 pm »
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Doesn't Goko use onigame's kingdom picker? The one that tries to pick interesting kingdoms, and thus weights certain cards more heavily? Or was that changed?

Even if they are still using the code, they only used it for casual games and not pro games. At least, that is what I think.
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