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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1600 on: May 10, 2015, 10:57:56 pm »
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I thought I got it from looking at the log but now I'm all confused again.
Borrow decreases the handsize of your next turn, which is what he wants. He doesn't need the coin.
That's what I was thinking but I don't understand how it went wrong.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1601 on: May 10, 2015, 11:43:27 pm »
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Possibly having plans to Forge it with other cards totaling $7 into a Province later.

From the comments made, I don't think this is the case in question, but I don't think it has been mentioned.

Edit: I guess that is trash for benefit, which was included in the obvious answers in the original post, so nothing to see here.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1602 on: May 11, 2015, 04:10:09 am »
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Could someone post the log?

Here: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150510/log.516cd492e4b082c74d7a247a.1431295722434.txt

Also, I most certainly did not play the early game very well (there was no need to start greening that early; with my amazing draws, I would have had all the time in the world to add some more reliability instead, but I didn't, and it backfired), so this is not the best example of high level Dominion ever.

That's what I was thinking but I don't understand how it went wrong.

I drew both of my KCs.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1603 on: May 11, 2015, 02:13:39 pm »
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Could someone post the log?

Here: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150510/log.516cd492e4b082c74d7a247a.1431295722434.txt

Also, I most certainly did not play the early game very well (there was no need to start greening that early; with my amazing draws, I would have had all the time in the world to add some more reliability instead, but I didn't, and it backfired), so this is not the best example of high level Dominion ever.

That's what I was thinking but I don't understand how it went wrong.

I drew both of my KCs.

So has the actual answer been posted yet?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1604 on: May 11, 2015, 02:15:15 pm »
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Could someone post the log?

Here: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150510/log.516cd492e4b082c74d7a247a.1431295722434.txt

Also, I most certainly did not play the early game very well (there was no need to start greening that early; with my amazing draws, I would have had all the time in the world to add some more reliability instead, but I didn't, and it backfired), so this is not the best example of high level Dominion ever.

That's what I was thinking but I don't understand how it went wrong.

I drew both of my KCs.

So has the actual answer been posted yet?

No. It has been implied, though.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1605 on: May 11, 2015, 07:13:18 pm »
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What's with the comments about Borrow?  Is lio just joking?

From the log...

Awaclus wants to play KC-Scavenger and Gold every turn, using Scavenger to topdeck another KC, Scavenger and Gold.  He only has 2 KCs though, so this can be disrupted if he ends up drawing his second KC and thus preventing him from topdecking it for his next hand.  Keeping the Hovel makes it slightly less likely for this to happen.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1606 on: May 11, 2015, 07:16:27 pm »
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That's right, his next hand already has all it needs, so he doesn't want to draw another KC. If he buys borrow, that further increases the chance that he doesn't draw the second KC.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1607 on: May 11, 2015, 07:18:43 pm »
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That's right, his next hand already has all it needs, so he doesn't want to draw another KC. If he buys borrow, that further increases the chance that he doesn't draw the second KC.

Oh.

I found it confusing because Borrow isn't in the game. :P
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1608 on: May 12, 2015, 12:51:19 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1609 on: May 12, 2015, 12:53:27 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1610 on: May 12, 2015, 04:27:02 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

You eventually will Gain a Mandarin (during your Action phase) and want to have the Potion on top of your deck for next turn, maybe to buy something next turn (e.g., Vineyards and you have two Potions this hand and only one buy) or to line up with next turn's Alchemists.  Or you could want to top-deck it for other reasons, like trashing with Lookout or more Harvest money.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1611 on: May 12, 2015, 04:32:01 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1612 on: May 12, 2015, 11:43:52 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

You eventually will Gain a Mandarin (during your Action phase) and want to have the Potion on top of your deck for next turn, maybe to buy something next turn (e.g., Vineyards and you have two Potions this hand and only one buy) or to line up with next turn's Alchemists.  Or you could want to top-deck it for other reasons, like trashing with Lookout or more Harvest money.

Wait... if you play it with Storyteller, top-deck with Mandarin and draw again, can you actually generate PP with a single Potion?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1613 on: May 12, 2015, 11:54:29 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

You eventually will Gain a Mandarin (during your Action phase) and want to have the Potion on top of your deck for next turn, maybe to buy something next turn (e.g., Vineyards and you have two Potions this hand and only one buy) or to line up with next turn's Alchemists.  Or you could want to top-deck it for other reasons, like trashing with Lookout or more Harvest money.

Wait... if you play it with Storyteller, top-deck with Mandarin and draw again, can you actually generate PP with a single Potion?

Wouldn't this interaction have existed already with Black Market?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1614 on: May 12, 2015, 02:22:18 pm »
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If you buy Mandarin from the Black Market or gain it with something like university.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1615 on: May 12, 2015, 04:19:29 pm »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

You eventually will Gain a Mandarin (during your Action phase) and want to have the Potion on top of your deck for next turn, maybe to buy something next turn (e.g., Vineyards and you have two Potions this hand and only one buy) or to line up with next turn's Alchemists.  Or you could want to top-deck it for other reasons, like trashing with Lookout or more Harvest money.

Wait... if you play it with Storyteller, top-deck with Mandarin and draw again, can you actually generate PP with a single Potion?

Yeah. It's important to remember that a Potion card isn't itself a resource but rather a card that generates a resource when you play it.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1616 on: May 13, 2015, 04:20:33 am »
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I play Potion with my Storyteller.  Why?

You eventually will Gain a Mandarin (during your Action phase) and want to have the Potion on top of your deck for next turn, maybe to buy something next turn (e.g., Vineyards and you have two Potions this hand and only one buy) or to line up with next turn's Alchemists.  Or you could want to top-deck it for other reasons, like trashing with Lookout or more Harvest money.

Wait... if you play it with Storyteller, top-deck with Mandarin and draw again, can you actually generate PP with a single Potion?

Well yeah; I guess you only need one Potion in my example of spending P this turn and having another Potion next turn.

But a more direct edge case would be, you have one Potion, 2 Buys, some way to Gain Mandarin (e.g., University), a draw, and there are two Vineyards left for a three pile. 
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1617 on: May 16, 2015, 12:24:35 pm »
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I Inherit Peddlers on turn 2.  How?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1618 on: May 16, 2015, 12:27:30 pm »
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T1: Play 4 Coppers. Buy Nomad Camp
T2: Play Necropolis, Nomad Camp, 3 Coppers, use Baker's Coin Token, Buy Borrow, Buy Inheritance.

Nomad Camp so OP.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1619 on: May 16, 2015, 04:01:31 pm »
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I Inherit Peddlers on turn 2.  How?

T1-Play 5 Copper; Buy Travelling Fair, Poor House, and Poor House, top-decking both. Draw PH, PH, and your 3 Shelters.
T2-Play Necropolis, then both PHs. Inherit Peddlers.

I wonder if it's possible without Shelters? Probably not, but I'll think about it.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1620 on: May 16, 2015, 07:04:45 pm »
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Turn 1: Buy Travelling Fair, Poor House, Pawn. Draw Poor House, Pawn, and three Estates.
Turn 2: Play Pawn for +1 Action and +$1, play Poor House for +$4. Use Baker coin and Borrow to reach $7 and buy Inheritance.
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« Reply #1621 on: May 16, 2015, 07:34:01 pm »
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I Inherit Peddlers on turn 2.  How?
Turn 1: 5C + Borrow -> Scouting Party(discarding top 5)+Death Cart(gaining 2 Ruined Villages)
Turn 2: 2 Ruined Villages+Death Cart+C+Baker coin token+Borrow-> Inheritance on Peddlers
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1622 on: May 17, 2015, 08:54:42 pm »
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A boy wanders into a church and is killed; the clergy then turn his body into a holy artifact.

What happened?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1623 on: May 17, 2015, 08:55:52 pm »
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Drowned in the holy water?
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« Reply #1624 on: May 17, 2015, 08:59:36 pm »
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A boy wanders into a church and is killed; the clergy then turn his body into a holy artifact.

What happened?

You trashed a Squire with Bishop, gaining a Relic.
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