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[eHalcyon]

You get points whenever you complete an area.  You get more points if the area is bigger, and also if you complete it in earlier phases.  There is also a big bonus for being the first player to finish all of one colour (so far, Watno got it for grey, I got it for dark green) and a smaller bonus for being second, I think.

You didn't really have a choice with those mines, I think?  Watno scooped the only one in the first round, then he scooped another two in the second round and I grabbed the last one.  And I just grabbed yet another in this round.  I don't think you ever had a chance.

I'm curious about first player advantage in this game.  Watno managed to grab some really great stuff -- all the mines and the +/-2 science tile.  I feel like I made a really good play in my first turn of the game, grabbing that Bank so that I could scoop the +4 workers science tile.  Man, if Watno had gotten that AND the +/-2, it would have been insane.

You're doing good too though.  If a couple of cow tiles show up, that field area is going to earn you TONS of points.

[Archetype]

You're doing good too though.  If a couple of cow tiles show up, that field area is going to earn you TONS of points.

Which is something I'm banking on and is why I'm so trying to be first.

I think if I started ships earlier, I could have gotten a Mine. Though maybe it wouldn't have been the best play because I have enough goods and the ability to get goods that if I really want something from the black depot, I can just use those.

And thanks for the points help, I vaguely remember reading something like that in the rule book.

Interested in what Watno has to say, but maybe he's he kind of person that tends to keep his winning tactics to himself.

[eHalcyon]

It's probably too late for you to get into Mines.  Not many turns left to make them worth it.

Though there's a possibility, I don't think you have to fear Watno scooping the light green bonus tile from you.  And he has a good chance of getting the smaller bonus because I'm way behind on animals!  I was hoping to grab one or both sheep tiles, but Watno took them!

[eHalcyon]

Watno, don't want to chat with us?   What about Qvist and Kuild?  How is your game going over there?

(Edit: holy smokes, how are your scores so high in that game?  We're in like the same phase now but Watno's score in that game is almost double my score in my game.  Is that because of the different boards?  Qvist's in particular looks like it has lots of tiny spaces that are easy to complete early.)

Arche, what time zone are you in?

[Watno]

I play rather intuitively, so I don't have that much to say.
Seating order is important, but you can ifluence with ships. Note that going last in the first round will help you go first in the second.

[eHalcyon]

Ahh, you posted while I was editing in.

What's going on with that other game?  How do you already have more than 100 points over there?

[Watno]

Indeed it's filling many small areas quickly

[Archetype]

Watno, don't want to chat with us?   What about Qvist and Kuild?  How is your game going over there?

(Edit: holy smokes, how are your scores so high in that game?  We're in like the same phase now but Watno's score in that game is almost double my score in my game.  Is that because of the different boards?  Qvist's in particular looks like it has lots of tiny spaces that are easy to complete early.)

Arche, what time zone are you in?

MST, but I don't usually get on until 5:30.

[eHalcyon]

Is everyone online?  Maybe we can shoot through several turns right now.

[Watno]

Actually I should go to bed soon, but if we get going quickly, that can wait a little longer.

[Archetype]

I should be here for the next 30 minutes or so.

[eHalcyon]

It's your turn!

[eHalcyon]

Watno.

[Watno]

arch

[eHalcyon]

That's a lot of boats.

SO MANY OPTIONS.

[Archetype]

eHalc

Boats!

[eHalcyon]

Watno.

That was really tough and I probably played it wrong.

[eHalcyon]

That goods science tile looks neat.  Arche, you're up.

[eHalcyon]

Aw, looks like Arche is gone.

[Archetype]

Back, but we'll have to wait for Watno after you go.

[eHalcyon]

The other game is in phase 5 now!  And it sure seems anticlimactic.  Not much any of you guys are particularly interested in.

[Watno]

You shocked me for a second. Then I checked and it's actually only in phase 4.

[eHalcyon]

You shocked me for a second. Then I checked and it's actually only in phase 4.

Whoa, wait, you are right.  For some reason I thought that game was ahead of ours.  Maybe because your score and Qvist's are so high there.  Wow. 

Does Kuild still have a chance?  He has several large areas he could fill up, hm.

[Watno]

I thought about this a bit and I think large areas are quite bad. Even in phase 5, four one sized areas are worth more than one of size 4.

[eHalcyon]

I thought about this a bit and I think large areas are quite bad. Even in phase 5, four one sized areas are worth more than one of size 4.

4 1-size = (1+2)*4 = 12 points
1 4-size = 10+2 = 12 points

so they are worth the same, right?

But even bigger ones are more efficient... like,

5 1-size = (1+2)*5 = 15 points
1 5-size = 15+2 = 17 points

But it really does seem like the early benefits are way better.  The best boards would have a good mix, right?  Lots of small areas for lots of early bonus points, then maybe one or two huge regions to fill up by the end.  Qvist's board looks like that, with that one big field in the middle.