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Asper

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Jeweler
« on: March 06, 2013, 07:37:47 am »
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Another Smithy variant. I would call this Blacksmith, but i allready told RTT he could use the name. It's for that other Fan Expansion i work on, so i won't post it in the Dominion:Magic-Thread.


Jeweler
Action - 5$
+3 Cards
You may play an Action Card from your hand. If you do, trash that Action Card.

When you trash this, gain an Estate.


What do you think? I wanted to give it a penalty for trashing itself, but it's still a small bonus VP.
To be honest, if this version turned out to bad, it could also gain Copper, Silver, or Estate and Silver alternatively.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 10:39:09 am by Asper »
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 08:20:41 am »
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sounds like its a strong engine with fortress,

but Goveneur + Militia is strong as well

I dont know how strong it is
Maybe you could write:
+3 Cards +1Action
trash the next action card you play in your clean up phase,

I think it might be balanced when i compare it to goveneur where you oponent gets a free laboratory
Here he gets a free knight that hits a action card. that are both 5$ effects so I think that is ok.

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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 09:25:12 am »
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I disagree that there's anything wrong with the templating. (Except maybe "action card" instead of "action"; I always forget when to use one or the other.)
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 09:42:23 am »
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I disagree that there's anything wrong with the templating. (Except maybe "action card" instead of "action"; I always forget when to use one or the other.)

It should be "Action card". I don't think the card has wording issues, but it seems quite weak. I don't think I'd usually trash an Action card just for the privilege of playing it with no actions left. Playing it two or three times? Then you might have my interest.
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 09:46:29 am »
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oh i see my wording weekens the card a lot if you have enough actions.

I think this card will generally not be liked because noone wants to see his good actions getting trashed.
maybe it could let you gain a card costing less then the trashed card.
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 10:51:10 am »
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How about: You may play an Action card from your hand. If you do, trash this. (then situations where terminal draw into a good action allows you to play it at the penalty of trashing jeweler for an estate?
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 11:00:41 am »
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I see it was a stupid idea to make this cost 5$. I thought it would be nice as an early card, trashing a cheap action for compensating the fact that you don't have an engine, yet. It would maybe allow getting to 6$ for Gold, faster than usual. so yeah, 5$ was a stupid idea. It just had the issue of being strictly better than Smithy, otherwise... So how about this:


Jeweler
3$ - Action
+ 3 Cards
You may play an Action Card from your hand. You may trash it.
If you did not trash a card this way, trash this.

« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 11:09:30 am by Asper »
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Re: Jeweler
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 11:05:47 am »
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That's a nice idea, enfynet, but it doesn't do what i wanted the card to do... Actually, i see it was a stupid idea to make this cost 5$. What i wanted was a Smithy that could play actions for a price. So how about this:


Jeweler
3$ - Action
+ 3 Cards
You may play an Action Card from your hand. If you do, you may trash it.
If you did not trash a card this way, trash this.


So it's basically a one-shot now. I think it's pretty rare that I'd trash another card rather than this, since this only costs $3. I think it's interesting, but the wording is a bit awkward. I'd playtest it, and if players pretty much always use it one way, eliminate the other option for simplicity's sake.
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