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MTG cards as Dominion cards
« on: February 21, 2013, 04:03:15 pm »
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I played MTG when it first came out, so I really only know the early cards. But I started thinking, given DXV has said MTG is his favorite game he didn't design, and it's obviously a card game that involves having a deck that interacts with itself, are there Dominion cards that have similar effects to early MTG cards? And is anything obvious missing?

Some key cards and their "equivalents":

Ancestral Recall: Smithy
Timetwister: Outpost
Wheel of Fortune: Minion
Channel: Vault/secret chamber
Black Lotus: gold
Demonic Tutor: Scavenger
Clone: band of misfits
[enchantment that lets you control the other guy's creature]: Possession

I'm sure many of you are far more familiar with MTG cards than I am. Interesting that two of the cards I thought of didn't have their "equivalents" until Datk Ages. Here's betting that one of those early MTG cards pops up with a Guilds equivalent,...

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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 04:10:26 pm »
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Black Lotus is Spoils, not Gold.
Possession is more like Mindslaver than a creature controller. Rogue is the closest thing to a creature controller.

Treasury is kind of like a basic land, if you think of coins as mana... once you play it, you can use it once per turn for 1 coin without affecting your handsize or actions.

Such magic cards have been mentioned throughout other threads, but I don't think there's a place where they're all listed at once like this.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 04:11:51 pm »
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Timetwister: Outpost

As another early MTG player, this should be Time Walk. Timetwister would kind of be Chancellor for shuffling your deck and discards.

Time Vault: Tactician
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 04:12:33 pm »
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[enchantment that lets you control the other guy's creature]: Possession
Would be Control Magic, although you can control the turn with Mindslaver: http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?name=Mindslaver
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 04:15:07 pm »
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 04:17:44 pm »
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I came up with the inverse game: I sort of mapped Dominion cards into a Magic framework, tweaked it, and then made my friends play with me. It didn't turn out that fun, but it was interesting to try to play the game well. I had victory chips represent life, and all action cards doubled as creature cards (I made their regular Dominion card text all a tap ability). I think we had Reaction cards act as Instants that returned to your hand. Treasure could be tapped for mana.

It didn't turn out that well, but what the heck.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 04:22:02 pm »
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Hunting party and Golem remind me of the cascade mechanic.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 05:17:06 pm »
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I would say Spoils is closer to Black Lotus. Both are one shot and you get both for free.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 07:04:36 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 07:17:11 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)
Well that's why the cards that let you win on your second/third turn are banned in most formats. 
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2013, 07:30:26 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

You wouldn't like playing against Celestial Chameleon in Dominion, then.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 07:41:35 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

I think I would probably enjoy MtG, but I do not want to fall into such a money-sink.  Better to stay away completely than to risk that siren call.

Possibly LCGs would be better for me, but regularly releases are still quite the Cutpurse, despite not having to spend hundreds to get that one rare card.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 07:51:47 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

There's good reasons to hate MtG, but yeah, that's not it.  Standard format is now designed so that it is impossible to win before turn 6 or so.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2013, 07:52:31 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

You wouldn't like playing against Celestial Chameleon in Dominion, then.
I didn't say 3rd turn...
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2013, 12:52:07 am »
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 01:12:05 am »
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When Dominion enters the battlefield, exile your hand, graveyard, library, and all permanents you own not named Dominion.  Choose 10 lands and shuffle them into your library, then draw 5 cards.

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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2013, 01:17:48 am »
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If you want to make it an un-undo-able kind of thing, you can have it generate an emblem with those abilities instead.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2013, 04:33:30 am »
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(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)
What's better than losing a game before your 2nd turn? Winning it before your first turn.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2013, 05:50:45 am »
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Why is this an Enchantment if it only does something when casted (if this is what "this turn" means)?
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2013, 05:56:16 am »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

Does it really irk you to have wasted 90 seconds of your time? I could understand this notion if a match would take much time and effort to set up, but normally I'd write it off as "opponent's uncanny luck" and play a re-match.

Besides, not a serious M:tG player but this has never happened to me, not even close. I understand that some unrestricted cards openings like "Black Lotus, Dark Ritual, Black Vise, Black Vise, Black Vise, Black Vise, Black Vise" do that.
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2013, 07:55:37 am »
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There are two reasons MTG never appealed to me:

1. Buying the appropriate number and quality of cards to do anything useful would require a lot of money
2. I would rather play with more than 2 players

But somehow I ended up spending more than 200 on Dominion expansions and only playing 2p on the internet.... ???
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2013, 11:02:47 am »
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There are two reasons MTG never appealed to me:

1. Buying the appropriate number and quality of cards to do anything useful would require a lot of money
2. I would rather play with more than 2 players

But somehow I ended up spending more than 200 on Dominion expansions and only playing 2p on the internet.... ???

Back when I played, we often played 5 player MTG.

You won if you eliminated the two players across from you. The player on either dude of you didn't matter (they were mind-of allies, but allies that were actually at war with each other)

For extra fun we would sometimes do it with single color decks:
So White would be allied with green and blue against red and black
Blue was allied with white and black against green and red
Black was with blue and red against green and white
Red with black and green against white and blue
And green allied with white and red against blue and black

We didn't make it up, but this was Pre-Internet, so I don't remember where we got the idea. I remember liking it a lot though when playing with friends.

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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2013, 11:09:20 am »
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Dominion cards for each mana color:

Red: Militia (direct attack)
Blue: Possession (control)
Black: Graverobber (the dead). Maybe Witch
White: Tournament (knights, etc)
Green: ??? Woodcutter? (green was all about creatures and natural disasters and stuff - not really a dominion theme...)

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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2013, 11:37:09 am »
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Dominion cards for each mana color:

Red: Militia (direct attack)
Blue: Possession (control)
Black: Graverobber (the dead). Maybe Witch
White: Tournament (knights, etc)
Green: ??? Woodcutter? (green was all about creatures and natural disasters and stuff - not really a dominion theme...)

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I think this is more appropriate:

Red: Saboteur (weak card, involves randomness, has a lot in common with red's land destruction cards such as Stone Rain)
Blue: Scrying Pool (scry, fateseal, card draw and cares about actions which is comparable to caring about Instants and Sorceries, similar to typical blue cards such as Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Peer Through Depths)
Black: Militia (hand size reduction, does usually the same thing as Mind Rot outside the +$2)
White: Monument (+vp isn't the equivalent of life gain, but close enough, buying Monument is pretty much the same as resolving Ajani's Mantra)
Green: Colony (an expensive card with a huge impact, and it also happens to be green in actuality, comparable to Kalonian Behemoth or pretty much any big green creature)
Artifact: Pirate Ship (it has counters and gives $)
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Re: MTG cards as Dominion cards
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2013, 12:26:01 pm »
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Is it really that uncommon for someone like me to thoroughly enjoy Dominion but abhor MtG?


(Why: I don't see how it can be fun losing a game before your 2nd turn.)

I played BANG! the other day and was killed before I got to take my first turn. :(
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