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Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« on: October 15, 2012, 03:53:54 pm »
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I've tried dozens of times, and I can't beat Lady Marigold (Act 1, Game 14 in Goko Adventures).  The board is always the same, and Marigold starts off with a lead (2 Duchy's & 3 Silvers):

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------------ Game Setup ------------
Supply cards: Cellar, Moat, Chancellor, Village, Woodcutter, Workshop, Gardens, Militia, Moneylender, Spy, Copper, Silver, Gold, Estate, Duchy, Province, Curse
kipkoan - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Estate, Duchy
Lady Marigold - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Silver, Silver, Silver, Estate, Duchy, Duchy

The last game I played I got destroyed:

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------------ Game Over ------------
Lady Marigold - cards: 5 Spy, 3 Militia, 8 Gold, 4 Copper, 3 Silver, 6 Province, 6 Gardens, 2 Duchy, 2 Estate
Lady Marigold - total victory points: 62
 
kipkoan - cards: 7 Village, 3 Woodcutter, 2 Militia, 2 Cellar, 2 Moat, 1 Moneylender, 5 Gold, 4 Silver, 3 Copper, 6 Duchy, 4 Estate, 2 Province
kipkoan - total victory points: 34

Any tips on what strategy I should try to beat her?
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 03:56:36 pm »
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Add a few more zaps, zap her silvers, play workshop gardens.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 04:03:49 pm »
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To elaborate, zap her Silver, not her Duchys. Buy Workshops until they're gone (and Workshop for more Workshops) unless she starts buying Gardens. If she starts getting Gardens, get Gardens until they're gone instead. Once the Gardens and Workshops are empty, buy Estates to end the game. Always buy something on your turn, even if it's just a Copper.

If you get enough of the Gardens, you should be able to end the game before her deck becomes strong enough to afford enough Provinces to catch you. Good Luck!
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 04:24:17 pm »
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Any tips on what strategy I should try to beat her?
Wait until this level is both different and easier. I don't know how long that will take but it will happen. Which is to say, I made new levels for the base set campaigns and they will replace the existing ones at some point.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 06:07:39 pm »
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Workshop+Gardens worked incredibly well!  Thanks, everyone!

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------------ Game Over ------------
kipkoan - cards: 10 Workshop, 14 Copper, 13 Estate, 8 Gardens, 1 Curse
kipkoan - total victory points: 44
kipkoan - turns: 20
 
Lady Marigold - cards: 5 Spy, 3 Militia, 1 Village, 1 Cellar, 7 Copper, 5 Gold, 4 Duchy, 2 Province, 1 Estate
Lady Marigold - total victory points: 25
Lady Marigold - turns: 19
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 01:09:22 am »
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How did you end up with a curse?
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 03:49:22 am »
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How did you end up with a curse?
I started out with one.  (That's something the Adventure mode does to make it harder for you, and easier for the computer.)
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 12:20:07 pm »
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How did you end up with a curse?
I started out with one.  (That's something the Adventure mode does to make it harder for you, and easier for the computer.)
Right, but you previously posted
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kipkoan - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Estate, Duchywhich is what threw me off.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 12:44:07 pm »
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How did you end up with a curse?
I started out with one.  (That's something the Adventure mode does to make it harder for you, and easier for the computer.)
Right, but you previously posted
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kipkoan - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Estate, Duchywhich is what threw me off.
I had previously zapped the Curse, before I was instructed to zap Marigold's Silvers.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 03:42:58 pm »
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How did you end up with a curse?
I started out with one.  (That's something the Adventure mode does to make it harder for you, and easier for the computer.)
Right, but you previously posted
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kipkoan - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Estate, Duchywhich is what threw me off.
I had previously zapped the Curse, before I was instructed to zap Marigold's Silvers.

Messing with the bots buying power is more important than zapping points unless the bot has Provinces. Having a lead in buying power is a bigger advantage than having a couple point lead or so.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 12:18:30 am »
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Just started playing Adventure Mode to check it out before my beta access goes away.  It was fun for awhile, but now that I'm getting into "triple silver+double duchy versus triple curse" territory, I want to punch a baby.  This isn't dominion, this is nonsense.  The board cards are totally irrelevant; the AI can click buttons at random and win.  And it's making me lose all the appreciation for base-set-only-play that I had acquired from reading the wonderful Gerimoo article.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 03:17:31 am »
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Just started playing Adventure Mode to check it out before my beta access goes away.  It was fun for awhile, but now that I'm getting into "triple silver+double duchy versus triple curse" territory, I want to punch a baby.  This isn't dominion, this is nonsense.  The board cards are totally irrelevant; the AI can click buttons at random and win.  And it's making me lose all the appreciation for base-set-only-play that I had acquired from reading the wonderful Gerimoo article.
Again this is all being fixed, but I don't know when.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 06:34:07 am »
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To beat her without zaps, I eventually had to buy two villages and hope for perfect shuffle luck. It took me a couple of play throughs, but this way I managed to get exactly 40 cards, which was enough to get a 1VP lead.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 08:58:30 am »
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I just beat her, using buy all workshops, I found the previous opponent very difficult, and beat it by using a similar tactic as the ai.
It's not the same(as good) as iso, but is still fun. plenty of room for improvement but that's another conversation.
I like the idea of learning different tactics with restricted cards progressively playing harder opponents leading to a boss.
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Re: Can't beat Lady Marigold - Act 1, Game 14
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2013, 11:29:45 pm »
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Thank you guys, I passed through this act without zapping  :) Following is my game log for your reference.

------------ Game Setup ------------
Supply cards: Cellar, Moat, Chancellor, Village, Woodcutter, Workshop, Gardens, Militia, Moneylender, Spy, Copper, Silver, Gold, Estate, Duchy, Province, Curse
Tsung-Hsien Lee - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Estate, Curse
Lady Marigold - starting cards: Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Silver, Silver, Silver, Estate, Duchy, Duchy
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper, Curse, Estate, Copper
Lady Marigold - draws Copper, Copper, Copper, Silver, Silver
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 1 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper, Estate, Copper, Copper
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 1 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 3 Copper, 2 Silver
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Silver, Estate, Copper, Duchy, Duchy
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 2 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 4 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper, Copper, Estate, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 2 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 1 Silver, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Workshop
Lady Marigold - gains Workshop
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - draws Copper, Silver, Workshop, Silver, Copper
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 3 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Curse, Estate, Copper, Copper, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 3 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Workshop
Lady Marigold - gains Militia
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Copper, 2 Silver
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Estate, Copper, Gold, Copper, Silver
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 4 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 2 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Moat, Workshop, Estate
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 4 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Copper, 1 Gold, 1 Silver
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Duchy, Duchy
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - draws Gold, Silver, Copper
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 5 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 2 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Village, Estate, Copper, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 5 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 1 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Silver, Estate, Silver, Copper, Gold
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 6 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village, Copper, Curse, Copper, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 6 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Silver, 1 Copper, 1 Gold
Lady Marigold - buys Province
Lady Marigold - gains Province
Lady Marigold - draws Workshop, Gold, Militia, Copper, Copper
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 7 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop, Moat, Estate, Village, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 7 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Militia
Tsung-Hsien Lee - reveals reaction Moat
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Copper, 1 Gold
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - draws Copper, Gold, Gold, Duchy, Copper
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 8 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Moat, Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Estate, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper, Woodcutter
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 8 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Copper, 2 Gold
Lady Marigold - buys Province
Lady Marigold - gains Province
Lady Marigold - draws Gold, Silver, Copper, Estate, Province
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 9 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop, Workshop, Copper, Village, Moat
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 9 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 1 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Gold, Copper, Workshop, Duchy, Gold
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 10 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village, Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Curse
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 1 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village, Copper, Woodcutter, Workshop, Copper
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 10 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Workshop
Lady Marigold - gains Spy
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Gold, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Militia, Silver, Silver
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - draws Province, Spy
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 11 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 2 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Moat, Workshop, Copper, Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 11 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Spy
Tsung-Hsien Lee - reveals reaction Moat
Lady Marigold - draws Estate
Lady Marigold - discards Copper
Lady Marigold - plays Militia
Tsung-Hsien Lee - reveals reaction Moat
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Silver
Lady Marigold - buys Gold
Lady Marigold - gains Gold
Lady Marigold - draws Province, Copper, Gold, Workshop, Gold
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 12 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Estate, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop, Woodcutter, Estate, Village, Copper
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 12 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Workshop
Lady Marigold - gains Gardens
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Gold, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Duchy
Lady Marigold - gains Duchy
Lady Marigold - draws Gold, Copper, Gold, Gold, Silver
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 13 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Curse, Village, Gardens, Copper, Gardens
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 13 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 3 Gold, 1 Copper, 1 Silver
Lady Marigold - buys Province
Lady Marigold - gains Province
Lady Marigold - draws Gold, Copper, Gold, Duchy, Duchy
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 14 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Moat
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop, Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 1 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Workshop, Workshop, Village, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 14 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Gold, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Duchy
Lady Marigold - gains Duchy
Lady Marigold - shuffles deck
Lady Marigold - draws Workshop, Duchy, Province, Estate, Duchy
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 15 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 1 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village, Village, Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - shuffles deck
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Workshop
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 15 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays Workshop
Lady Marigold - gains Spy
Lady Marigold - draws Silver, Copper, Gardens, Silver, Duchy
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 16 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 3 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village, Workshop, Woodcutter, Workshop, Copper
 
---------- Lady Marigold: turn 16 ----------
Lady Marigold - plays 2 Silver, 1 Copper
Lady Marigold - buys Duchy
Lady Marigold - gains Duchy
Lady Marigold - draws Duchy, Gold, Gold, Gold, Militia
 
---------- Tsung-Hsien Lee: turn 17 ----------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Gardens
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Workshop
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Village
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays Woodcutter
Tsung-Hsien Lee - plays 1 Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Estate
Tsung-Hsien Lee - buys Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - gains Copper
Tsung-Hsien Lee - draws Copper, Moat, Woodcutter, Gardens, Estate
 
------------ Game Over ------------
Tsung-Hsien Lee - cards: 10 Village, 9 Workshop, 4 Moat, 3 Woodcutter, 12 Copper, 7 Gardens, 5 Estate, 1 Curse
Tsung-Hsien Lee - total victory points: 39
Tsung-Hsien Lee - turns: 17
 
Lady Marigold - cards: 2 Spy, 1 Militia, 1 Workshop, 8 Gold, 4 Copper, 3 Silver, 5 Duchy, 3 Province, 1 Estate, 1 Gardens
Lady Marigold - total victory points: 36
Lady Marigold - turns: 16
 
1st place: Tsung-Hsien Lee
2nd place: Lady Marigold
 
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