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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2013, 03:06:47 pm »
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To clarify here, you would need enough money for yet another Farmland after you bought one and trashed the Rats. So at least $18 and 3 buys.

You're correct; my my mind jumped a step.

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You get to choose the order of the cards you put back when your opponent plays Oracle...

Man, I am out of it today. I stand by my point that I don't think it makes me unfriendly to expect the game is operated according to its rules.
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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2013, 11:35:51 pm »
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You people need to come round and explain these things to my friends when we play!

Usually they just say "Yeah whatever" when I sit there and explain for 5 minutes the wierd edge case that come up in our game, my justification being "Well, on the internet Donald and Wandering said this, counting out what Jonts raised about this, and so it was decided that this happens"

I just get sympathetic nods!

See, I just blew a new player's mind by throwing Possession/Outpost at them.
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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2013, 04:32:32 am »
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To clarify here, you would need enough money for yet another Farmland after you bought one and trashed the Rats. So at least $18 and 3 buys.

You're correct; my my mind jumped a step.

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You get to choose the order of the cards you put back when your opponent plays Oracle...

Man, I am out of it today. I stand by my point that I don't think it makes me unfriendly to expect the game is operated according to its rules.
Well no, but often it doesn't matter anyway so you can just do things to speed the game along.

If an opponent shows me a hand full of Gold IRL I don't go "how much is that exactly?" I'll let him grab his Province with one buy.

Even in tournaments, I like to keep it casual if I can, I mean, it's just a game, don't take it too seriously people.
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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2013, 09:21:07 am »
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Yep.  Probably no one cares in friendly play, but it could matter in a tournament.

I would care the same amount as I would care about you putting those two cards back from my Oracle in the correct order. Does that make me unfriendly? It's how the game works.  ???

Well, I guess I play two different types of friendly games:

1.  A game with people who find Dominion edge cases interesting and will happily hold up the game for 2-3 minutes just to learn about them.
2.  A game with people whose eyes will glaze over after 15 seconds of trying to explain the edge case.

The latter group of people, when I play with them, I don't even count Provinces, because they're not Dominion players in the same sense, and I intentionally don't play competitively against them, because doing so returns obvious results and ends with them not wanting to play Dominion any more.
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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2013, 09:36:38 am »
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I don't know. Maybe I'm too much of a "rules lawyer", then. It just gets me when I'm playing a game and someone does something other than what's proscribed to happen by the rules, even if it's a little thing.

This has happened to me with other games also. At GenCon I got into a serious argument playing Magic with someone (in a multiplayer game) about what happens when a player loses the game with an Oblivion Ring in play. (The permanent removed by the Oblivion Ring never returns, because the leaves play ability can't go on the stack, because the player who would control that ability isn't in the game.) It wasn't super-relevant to the outcome of that game, but I couldn't help but be like, "Come on! There are rules to this game; I want to play the game described by these rules."

And yeah, I'm also the guy who wants to see your Treasure when you buy something. I hate when people just dump their whole hand in their discard and pick up a Gold, silently.  :-[
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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2013, 12:26:33 pm »
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I don't know. Maybe I'm too much of a "rules lawyer", then. It just gets me when I'm playing a game and someone does something other than what's proscribed to happen by the rules, even if it's a little thing.

This has happened to me with other games also. At GenCon I got into a serious argument playing Magic with someone (in a multiplayer game) about what happens when a player loses the game with an Oblivion Ring in play. (The permanent removed by the Oblivion Ring never returns, because the leaves play ability can't go on the stack, because the player who would control that ability isn't in the game.) It wasn't super-relevant to the outcome of that game, but I couldn't help but be like, "Come on! There are rules to this game; I want to play the game described by these rules."

And yeah, I'm also the guy who wants to see your Treasure when you buy something. I hate when people just dump their whole hand in their discard and pick up a Gold, silently.  :-[

Don't worry, man, you're not alone. :)  I mean, if you're getting into a real argument, it's usually because the other person also knows/cares about rules; I see nothing wrong with discussing and resolving the issue.  I usually want to do that just to make sure I understand the correct rule, anyway.  I do overlook small mistakes from players who are *just* learning, though - I find trying to correct those immediately can be confusing if they don't already grasp the basics.

Counting treasure is also important to me, not because I think people want to cheat, but because we all make mistakes all the time.  I try to model / teach players to show all their money, say how much they have, and then what they're doing with it.  It just makes the whole game smoother for everybody.  And it helps prevent the whole "what did you do on your turn?" issue.

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Re: Border Village and Top-Decking?
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2013, 02:56:41 pm »
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I'm also the guy who wants to see your Treasure when you buy something. I hate when people just dump their whole hand in their discard and pick up a Gold, silently.  :-[

This is also me. When someone just picks up a card (or three) and throws it into their discard with their hand, I feel a little like waving and saying "hello, I'm still here and interested in what you're doing!"
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