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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2013, 05:49:59 am »
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Grand Meerkat

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+1 Action
+1 Buy
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You can't buy this if you have any Treasure cards other than Copper in play

So...open Counting House or Coppersmith everyone!
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2013, 12:55:13 pm »
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Grand Meerkat

+1 Card
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You can't buy this if you have any Treasure cards other than Copper in play

So...open Counting House or Coppersmith everyone!

Remodel works for both versions, though.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 12:59:04 pm »
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Baroness
2 VP
Whenever you gain a Gold, you may also gain a Baronese.
Victory - $3

It is the reverse of a Tunnel, but also looks like a Duchess in some senses...

The reverse of a Tunnel should be when you discard a Gold, right?

I kind of like the "when you gain a Gold" effect, though, as a mechanic. It acts like the opposite of Duchess, and functions a bit like Harem.

The actual opposite of Baron also seems nifty: "You may gain an Estate; if you do, +$4".

Another spin at the reverse Tunnel:

Lennut
2 VP
When you discard a Gold at the Discarding Phase, you may also gain a Lennut.
Victory - $3

What do you think about this? So you cannot simply discard a Gold with Cartographer and get Lennut, you have to gain it in the more painful way.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 01:22:43 pm »
+1

I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 03:04:32 pm »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 03:14:49 pm »
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Ad
-2 coins
Play a treasure card from your hand twice.

Action - $2

Play this with a copper and you actually did nothing but put 2 cards into play. Play this with a silver, you get 2 coins. But you get the 2 coins by playing a silver anyway. With gold, Ad+gold effectively converts an action to a coin, which still isn't much.

Ad can make loans a bit more useful, though. Ad with philosopher's stone or platinum is probably the best use of this card.

The premise here is so Ad-Venture is roughly the same as Adventurer. And the name "Ad" actually makes some sense!
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 04:38:23 pm »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 11:04:27 pm »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.

(sighs) But then it doesn't look like a reversing card, nor does it look particularly interesting or broken, anyway...
I still prefer the version which looks like a Duchess.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 11:16:38 pm »
+1

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If there are 1 or more full supply piles, +1 card
If there are 2 or more full supply piles, +1 card, +2 actions
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2013, 04:30:22 am »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.

(sighs) But then it doesn't look like a reversing card, nor does it look particularly interesting or broken, anyway...
I still prefer the version which looks like a Duchess.
Okay. But the reverse of Tunnel would allow you to discard it when you gain a gold, other than during your clean up phase.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2013, 01:15:25 pm »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.

(sighs) But then it doesn't look like a reversing card, nor does it look particularly interesting or broken, anyway...
I still prefer the version which looks like a Duchess.
Okay. But the reverse of Tunnel would allow you to discard it when you gain a gold, other than during your clean up phase.

Everyone seems to have a different approach to reverse Tunnel. But, how is the discard-when-gain-gold ability useful?
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2013, 01:30:26 pm »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.

(sighs) But then it doesn't look like a reversing card, nor does it look particularly interesting or broken, anyway...
I still prefer the version which looks like a Duchess.
Okay. But the reverse of Tunnel would allow you to discard it when you gain a gold, other than during your clean up phase.

Everyone seems to have a different approach to reverse Tunnel. But, how is the discard-when-gain-gold ability useful?

Who said they have to be useful?
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2013, 02:54:58 am »
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I never knew there was a discarding phase.
Is it triggered by Militia?
Sorry, meant Clean-up phase.

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When you discard this other than during a Clean-up phase, you may reveal it. If you do, gain a Gold.
Everything you played (except Duration) are discarded during Clean-up. You would probably want to state "from your hand during Clean-up" to prevent it from being a card on the table.

(sighs) But then it doesn't look like a reversing card, nor does it look particularly interesting or broken, anyway...
I still prefer the version which looks like a Duchess.
Okay. But the reverse of Tunnel would allow you to discard it when you gain a gold, other than during your clean up phase.

Everyone seems to have a different approach to reverse Tunnel. But, how is the discard-when-gain-gold ability useful?

Who said they have to be useful?

I'm sorry about my wording. I was asking about possible cases that this card shines. That is, I was expecting answers like "the ability becomes useful if you Village-Remake-Library, for example".
And being not useful at all is still perfectly fine.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2013, 08:35:14 am »
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Village Border $6
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2013, 10:24:07 pm »
+1

Ekud
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Worth one per Duchy in your opponents deck.

Loop Gniyrcs
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Each other player reveals the top card of his discard pile and either puts it back or discards it, your choice. Then reveal cards from his deck until you reveal one that is an action. Put the revealed cards in your hand.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2013, 04:23:20 am »
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Loop Gniyrcs
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Each other player reveals the top card of his discard pile and either puts it back or discards it, your choice. Then reveal cards from his deck until you reveal one that is an action. Put the revealed cards in your hand.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2013, 05:06:10 am »
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Nevah

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+1 Action

Set this card aside. At the beginning of your next turn, discard this from play and discard a card from your hand.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2013, 03:12:23 am »
+1

Fortune Seeker:
Action/Attack - $3
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal a victory or curse card. Put it on top of your deck and discard the other revealed cards.
Each other player gains 2 coppers, putting them in his hand.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2013, 02:22:18 pm »
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Naicitcat
+1 action, +1 buy, +5 cards
Skip your next turn
Action - $5
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2013, 03:05:54 pm »
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Naicitcat
+1 action, +1 buy, +5 cards
Skip your next turn
Action - $5

Shouldn't that be "Discard your hand at the beginning of your next turn"?

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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2013, 04:42:38 pm »
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Reversed durations are time travel cards.  Especially Tactician with its "if you do" clause.

"If you discard any cards at the start of your next turn, +5 Cards, +1 Action, +1 Buy.  At the start of your next turn, discard your hand.

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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2013, 10:44:49 am »
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The most popular reverse card, in fact the only one with fan pages, is obviously Reverse Harem.
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Re: Reversing cards
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2013, 10:52:00 am »
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The most popular reverse card, in fact the only one with fan pages, is obviously Reverse Harem.
The card obviously gives -2VP and is worth $-2. It's that cancerous.
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