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[Robz888]

I am incredibly comfortable with my vote on Robz.  If I am wrong about Robz, I am going to be very disappointed as I really can only explain his play as scummy or uncharacteristically bad town play by Robz.

As long as you provide yourself with an out...

[Galzria]

I am incredibly comfortable with my vote on Robz.  If I am wrong about Robz, I am going to be very disappointed as I really can only explain his play as scummy or uncharacteristically bad town play by Robz.

I'm warming to this, but I want to get through everything again. Certain statements have been really off-beat.

[Robz888]

Usually I feel like I deserve it at least a little bit, but how is my play really scummy? I haven't even said very much.

[Galzria]

Eevee, this is a prime example:

Okay, here's why Archetype is scum: He knew scum have daychat! Who else knew that? Seriously, I didn't. I think he brought it up to be cool Mr. Townie, warning us about the scum and their daychat.

Now, I don't read the setup before we began as I stated at the start of today - but I knew that we were in a "no-night" game - so as Jimmm points out, uhhh, when was Robz EXPECTING scum to talk? I mean, this is a really bad reason to want to lynch somebody, isn't it? Because they knew scum had day-chat in a game with no nights?

[Eevee]

Usually I feel like I deserve it at least a little bit, but how is my play really scummy? I haven't even said very much.

That's definitely a part of it for me.

[Eevee]

Eevee, this is a prime example:

Okay, here's why Archetype is scum: He knew scum have daychat! Who else knew that? Seriously, I didn't. I think he brought it up to be cool Mr. Townie, warning us about the scum and their daychat.

Now, I don't read the setup before we began as I stated at the start of today - but I knew that we were in a "no-night" game - so as Jimmm points out, uhhh, when was Robz EXPECTING scum to talk? I mean, this is a really bad reason to want to lynch somebody, isn't it? Because they knew scum had day-chat in a game with no nights?

I agree, bbut that would have been the only concrete example I could have pointed out.

[Galzria]

Usually I feel like I deserve it at least a little bit, but how is my play really scummy? I haven't even said very much.

Good, then LLALR (literally lynch all lurking Robz) can take effect.

You have GOT to stop playing for your next scum game if you're town. Stop intentionally trying to meta-break.

[Robz888]

Eevee, this is a prime example:

Okay, here's why Archetype is scum: He knew scum have daychat! Who else knew that? Seriously, I didn't. I think he brought it up to be cool Mr. Townie, warning us about the scum and their daychat.

Now, I don't read the setup before we began as I stated at the start of today - but I knew that we were in a "no-night" game - so as Jimmm points out, uhhh, when was Robz EXPECTING scum to talk? I mean, this is a really bad reason to want to lynch somebody, isn't it? Because they knew scum had day-chat in a game with no nights?

But I think it was more on his mind because he was doing it, and he thought it would make him townie for bringing it up. So I'm subverting his expectations.

[Robz888]

Usually I feel like I deserve it at least a little bit, but how is my play really scummy? I haven't even said very much.

Good, then LLALR (literally lynch all lurking Robz) can take effect.

You have GOT to stop playing for your next scum game if you're town. Stop intentionally trying to meta-break.

I'm not! I'm not! I swear I'm not!!!

[Jimmmmm]

I have to go now. Off to see The Hobbit in Gold Class. The deadline is at 3am for me, so I will be able to check back in well before then. Please don't lynch me while I'm gone. You have my blessing to lynch scum if you're sure, and you have my (admittedly weak) reads.

[Galzria]

Eevee, here is another example which Robz never gave an adequate answer to that doesn't exactly add up:

Robz, what changed between these two posts?

I also have a scumread on Axxle. This is not the Axxle I'm used to, for some reason.

But you are wrong my brother. Axxle is almost certainly town. He's driving conversation! That's a very town thing to do, when like no one is saying anything.

[Robz888]

I feel like I'm being told to act like myself and I don't know how to be me.

[Galzria]

And another that really felt off, although maybe it's because I was the subject of the vote, but this type of "scumhunting" in a jokey manner doesn't feel like town Robz to me at all:

This game is weirdly silent for a Blitz game.

Why doesn't someone vote for Galzria for a bad reason, watch his reaction, and create an Innocent Child?

I can start. Galzria, you have not been very active this game. I know you're scum. Vote: Galzria

Further, when I answered him, he responded with the following. Now pair that up with his most recent "I swear I'm not trying to meta-break" of just a few posts ago, and ask yourself how you're left feeling?

Robz, last time you called someone out for "not participating" was when you yourself were under participating in Pokemon.

Let's have a look back at my content this game vs yours, shall we?

I don't know if that's the last time I did it. Really, I try to mix up my participating levels, independent of whether I am scum, so that participation level never gives me away.

[Galzria]

Those are the sort of things that stood out to me. One could argue that Robz asking if the Fools should claim was scum fishing - but I think that's taking the step into confirmation bias and not good scumhunting.

[Robz888]

[Robz888]

Eevee, here is another example which Robz never gave an adequate answer to that doesn't exactly add up:

Robz, what changed between these two posts?

I also have a scumread on Axxle. This is not the Axxle I'm used to, for some reason.

But you are wrong my brother. Axxle is almost certainly town. He's driving conversation! That's a very town thing to do, when like no one is saying anything.

I just changed my mind, man. And I've changed it again. You convinced me, Axxle's content was pretty substance-free.

[Galzria]

Eevee, here is another example which Robz never gave an adequate answer to that doesn't exactly add up:

Robz, what changed between these two posts?

I also have a scumread on Axxle. This is not the Axxle I'm used to, for some reason.

But you are wrong my brother. Axxle is almost certainly town. He's driving conversation! That's a very town thing to do, when like no one is saying anything.

I just changed my mind, man. And I've changed it again. You convinced me, Axxle's content was pretty substance-free.

Yes, it was. But for all you -should- know, I'm as likely to be scum as Axxle. You're not forming your own opinions, you're sheeping, and a look back at Blitz-X shows that's one thing scum!Robz is a matter at. You let mcmc and Cuzz blow themselves up because it was easy to play "follow the IC" and take no real stands yourself.

[Robz888]

Eevee, here is another example which Robz never gave an adequate answer to that doesn't exactly add up:

Robz, what changed between these two posts?

I also have a scumread on Axxle. This is not the Axxle I'm used to, for some reason.

But you are wrong my brother. Axxle is almost certainly town. He's driving conversation! That's a very town thing to do, when like no one is saying anything.

I just changed my mind, man. And I've changed it again. You convinced me, Axxle's content was pretty substance-free.

Yes, it was. But for all you -should- know, I'm as likely to be scum as Axxle. You're not forming your own opinions, you're sheeping, and a look back at Blitz-X shows that's one thing scum!Robz is a matter at. You let mcmc and Cuzz blow themselves up because it was easy to play "follow the IC" and take no real stands yourself.

No, no sir! I did not do that! I boldly pushed new cases in that game, friend. Frankly, the IC sheeped me.

[Robz888]

And I've made an original case against Archetype.

[Archetype]

Okay, here's why Archetype is scum: He knew scum have daychat! Who else knew that? Seriously, I didn't. I think he brought it up to be cool Mr. Townie, warning us about the scum and their daychat.

You think I'm scum because I actually read the setup…? I was suprised no one had even talked about it when I read the posts I needed to catch up on. So I brought it up.

[mcmcsalot]

Gonna have to say I support my brother in this one. I think he can tell he took it overboard with trying to change up his meta and came off scummy. I think he's trying to be normal and has been attacked for it. Also flustered robz is town robz, whenever there's an easy case to be made on him it's because he isn't trying not to get lynched.

[Galzria]

And I've made an original case against Archetype.

Your case on Arche is bad and you should feel bad.

Joking aside (that would have a lunatic Zoidberg if I could generate meme's from my mobile), look  I understand not knowing the complete setup. I stated in my second post of the game that I hadn't read everything yet. But I WAS checking new posts after Insomniac locked the thread so that I wouldn't miss the start of the game. And in his post JUST before the opening flavor he posted the following:

To clarify there is NO nights, the Witches must have their kill in before the day end, the next day starts immediately.

So really, I don't understand how your "case" makes any sense. Is this really the best that town!Robz has to offer? REALLY? I just have difficulty seeing it - especially in light of your recent scum play in both RMM-IV, and Blitz-X. Yes, your posting style was vastly different in those two games (lurker vs avid poster), but the driving factor behind both was a sheeping Robz who really didn't make waves calling people scum or building cases. In RMM you let Tables and I lead, and you just sheeped along, and in Blitz-X you did the same while Insomniac was alive - only really making any real statements D2 when you played for the win - but there it was "PoE" and still not a real case.

So yes, your flipping on Axxle twice now with no real reason besides "I've been convinced", and your really, really weak case on Arche leave me wondering if this is actually town!Robz. If it is, I'm rather disappointed with what you've had to offer thusfar.

[Robz888]

Gonna have to say I support my brother in this one. I think he can tell he took it overboard with trying to change up his meta and came off scummy. I think he's trying to be normal and has been attacked for it. Also flustered robz is town robz, whenever there's an easy case to be made on him it's because he isn't trying not to get lynched.

Quote of the century.

[Robz888]

And I've made an original case against Archetype.

Your case on Arche is bad and you should feel bad.

Joking aside (that would have a lunatic Zoidberg if I could generate meme's from my mobile), look  I understand not knowing the complete setup. I stated in my second post of the game that I hadn't read everything yet. But I WAS checking new posts after Insomniac locked the thread so that I wouldn't miss the start of the game. And in his post JUST before the opening flavor he posted the following:

To clarify there is NO nights, the Witches must have their kill in before the day end, the next day starts immediately.

So really, I don't understand how your "case" makes any sense. Is this really the best that town!Robz has to offer? REALLY? I just have difficulty seeing it - especially in light of your recent scum play in both RMM-IV, and Blitz-X. Yes, your posting style was vastly different in those two games (lurker vs avid poster), but the driving factor behind both was a sheeping Robz who really didn't make waves calling people scum or building cases. In RMM you let Tables and I lead, and you just sheeped along, and in Blitz-X you did the same while Insomniac was alive - only really making any real statements D2 when you played for the win - but there it was "PoE" and still not a real case.

So yes, your flipping on Axxle twice now with no real reason besides "I've been convinced", and your really, really weak case on Arche leave me wondering if this is actually town!Robz. If it is, I'm rather disappointed with what you've had to offer thusfar.

I maintain that the bolded part is especially untrue. I constructed the case against Mcmc, not Insomniac. I led him. Sure, I sheeped in Rmm whatever.

I think you're unfairly honing in on me. I'm not sure why, probably because you're scum. I've contributed more than half the players here.

[Archetype]

Last post before I sink back into that V/LA time period again but…

I don't have a scumread on Robz. Well maybe a very mild one, but that's only because of how his reads have done a 180. But panicy Robz is usually town!Robz, but he could be (and I hope he isn't) playing for his next game.

So mainly null, but am leaning both scum and town. Major hedging, I know, but Robz has, at points, seemed like town!Robz and scum!Robz. I think I'm going to leave my vote on Axxle, though. His forwardness is coming off a bit harsh.