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[Warfreak2]

I think we're past the point at which anything odd on Goko needs further explanation.

[manthos88]

How about: "Got $15 from phil's stone(s), no +Buy"

Or: "Got $27 from Ventures-Banks, no +Buy"


It has happened to me a lot... xD

[sudgy]

Wait, PS isn't (usually) that great without +Buys...

[GwinnR]

Just happened to me:

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Buys Jack of all Trades and Steward in t1 and t2.
Draws Necropolis, Hovel, Overgrown Estate, JoaT and Steward in t3: Play Necropolis, trash the other Shelters with Steward and play a big JoaT.
Draws JoaT, Steward, Necropolis and 2 Coppers in t4 to do the same with the Coppers.

[mameluke]

Maybe this is how it is supposed to work, but after getting swamped with curses, I got a pretty lucky draw and was able to trash almost everything at once with Count *and* buy a Province (with Count's +$3). Cruised afterwards due to Conspirator/FV.

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dscarpac duration Fishing Village
dscarpac duration Fishing Village
dscarpac plays Witch
dscarpac draws Crossroads, Copper
Bishop_Zen gains Curse
dscarpac plays Apprentice
dscarpac trashes Witch
dscarpac draws Conspirator, Curse
dscarpac shuffles deck
dscarpac draws Gold, Curse, Conspirator
dscarpac plays Conspirator
dscarpac draws Conspirator
dscarpac plays Conspirator
dscarpac draws Curse
dscarpac plays Conspirator
dscarpac draws Estate
dscarpac plays Crossroads
dscarpac reveals hand: Curse, Copper, Copper, Curse, Gold, Curse, Curse, Estate
dscarpac draws Count
dscarpac plays Count
dscarpac places Gold on top of deck
dscarpac trashes Curse, Copper, Copper, Curse, Curse, Curse, Estate
dscarpac buys Province
dscarpac gains Province
dscarpac draws Gold, Copper
dscarpac shuffles deck
dscarpac draws Province, Fishing Village, Count

[SCSN]

This yudai214 guy has been frustrating the hell out of me because I almost never beat him. Then we play this game:

SheCantSayNo   cards: 10 Fortress, 9 Pawn, 6 Goons, 5 Mercenary, 4 Urchin, 2 Copper, 1 Duchy
SheCantSayNo   victory point chips: 134
SheCantSayNo   total victory points: 137
SheCantSayNo   turns: 16
yudai214   cards: 3 JackOfAllTrades, 11 Silver, 7 Copper, 4 Gold, 2 Province
yudai214   victory point chips: 0
yudai214   total victory points: 12
yudai214   turns: 15

[Titandrake]

I knew Soothsayer could be countered nicely by Watchtower, but I wasn't expecting something as amazing as this.

theRZJ   plays Soothsayer
theRZJ   gains Gold
Titandrake   gains Curse
Titandrake   applied Watchtower to trash Curse
Titandrake   trashes Curse
Titandrake   reveals reaction Market Square
Titandrake   discards Market Square
Titandrake   gains Gold
Titandrake   applied Watchtower to place Gold on top of the deck
Titandrake   draws Gold

[KingZog3]

I knew Soothsayer could be countered nicely by Watchtower, but I wasn't expecting something as amazing as this.

theRZJ   plays Soothsayer
theRZJ   gains Gold
Titandrake   gains Curse
Titandrake   applied Watchtower to trash Curse
Titandrake   trashes Curse
Titandrake   reveals reaction Market Square
Titandrake   discards Market Square
Titandrake   gains Gold
Titandrake   applied Watchtower to place Gold on top of the deck
Titandrake   draws Gold

A similar thing happened to me. I think after I topdecked 2 Golds my opponent quit, probably out of frustration.

[GwinnR]

I call this "I...really...need...this...Province OR My favorite colour is purple":

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GwinnR buys Province
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
GwinnR gains Curse
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130708/log.5182cd42e4b05e4ebc88aeed.1373300058627.txt

[GwinnR]

This is ambassador-tennis: http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.516d0e09e4b082c74d7aacc1.1373391742975.txt
Ambassador with Sage...I should have gotten another Ambassador early.

[WanderingWinder]

This is ambassador-tennis: http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.516d0e09e4b082c74d7aacc1.1373391742975.txt
Ambassador with Sage...I should have gotten another Ambassador early.

Naw, THIS is Ambassador tennis. Okay, I didn't play the best, but fun note: during this game, I did chat "Turn 27: finally $5" or something to that effect. And... I actually thought (a bit wrongly, but not SO crazy) that I had decent chances in the game at that point...

[KingZog3]

This is ambassador-tennis: http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.516d0e09e4b082c74d7aacc1.1373391742975.txt
Ambassador with Sage...I should have gotten another Ambassador early.

Naw, THIS is Ambassador tennis. Okay, I didn't play the best, but fun note: during this game, I did chat "Turn 27: finally $5" or something to that effect. And... I actually thought (a bit wrongly, but not SO crazy) that I had decent chances in the game at that point...

That's true tennis. I had a game (IRL, so no log) where I ended up with more Estates than were originally in the supply. It was 3 players, so it was pretty brutal. I think I had 14 Estates by the end of the game.

[KingZog3]

Sorry for double post, but Fool's Gold beats Knights. And Duchies don't...

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.512ae46de4b0feac797bd867.1373431264761.txt

[achmed_sender]

If your opponent had added some more highways to his knights, it would have been more difficult.

[thespaceinvader]

This is ambassador-tennis: http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.516d0e09e4b082c74d7aacc1.1373391742975.txt
Ambassador with Sage...I should have gotten another Ambassador early.

Naw, THIS is Ambassador tennis. Okay, I didn't play the best, but fun note: during this game, I did chat "Turn 27: finally $5" or something to that effect. And... I actually thought (a bit wrongly, but not SO crazy) that I had decent chances in the game at that point...

That's true tennis. I had a game (IRL, so no log) where I ended up with more Estates than were originally in the supply. It was 3 players, so it was pretty brutal. I think I had 14 Estates by the end of the game.

I've had games like that.  Fortunately, in the one that sticks in my mind, Gardens were on the board, and I had given up on winning the (4-player) tennis game early, and just bought Gardens.  I won by about 20 points IIRC, even with most of the curse pile in my deck.

[Rabid]

This is ambassador-tennis: http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130709/log.516d0e09e4b082c74d7aacc1.1373391742975.txt
Ambassador with Sage...I should have gotten another Ambassador early.

Naw, THIS is Ambassador tennis. Okay, I didn't play the best, but fun note: during this game, I did chat "Turn 27: finally $5" or something to that effect. And... I actually thought (a bit wrongly, but not SO crazy) that I had decent chances in the game at that point...

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=7308.msg207167#msg207167

41 turns!
I get punished for greening to early be Stef.

[SCSN]

hiroki   plays Swindler
SheCantSayNo   reveals reaction Horse Traders
SheCantSayNo   reveals reaction Horse Traders
SheCantSayNo   reveals Border Village
SheCantSayNo   trashes Border Village
SheCantSayNo   gains Border Village
SheCantSayNo   gains Herald

[GwinnR]

hiroki   plays Swindler
SheCantSayNo   reveals reaction Horse Traders
SheCantSayNo   reveals reaction Horse Traders
SheCantSayNo   reveals Border Village
SheCantSayNo   trashes Border Village
SheCantSayNo   gains Border Village
SheCantSayNo   gains Herald

No Golds left or what???

[michaeljb]

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130716/log.51395be9e4b006f8dc8cf78c.1374030119724.txt

michaeljb   draws Curse, Tactician, Curse, Curse, Curse


Unfortunately I lost before being able to play the Tactician, let alone get the powered up turn.

[GwinnR]

Sometimes Forager is really great. Just played a game, where it gave 7$.

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This setup: Fools Gold, Forager, Scavenger, Armory, Counterfeit, Knights, Royal Seal, Duke, Farmland, Harem
At the end at least one of every treasure-card-pile was in the trash. Sadly it wasn't with Platinum ;-)

[KingZog3]

Sometimes Forager is really great. Just played a game, where it gave 7$.

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This setup: Fools Gold, Forager, Scavenger, Armory, Counterfeit, Knights, Royal Seal, Duke, Farmland, Harem
At the end at least one of every treasure-card-pile was in the trash. Sadly it wasn't with Platinum ;-)

I actually find Forager is almost always a key card, either because it's good trashing, or because it will give a ridiculous amount of money.

[Warfreak2]

It's normally a bad idea to trash extra treasures, because you're helping your opponent too, with the opportunity cost of the Treasure you trashed. For it to be worth powering up Forager beyond $2, one player should have a lot more Foragers. I suspect in many games, it's a groupthink card that is overpowered because people deliberately play in a way that overpowers it.

[GwinnR]

It's normally a bad idea to trash extra treasures, because you're helping your opponent too, with the opportunity cost of the Treasure you trashed. For it to be worth powering up Forager beyond $2, one player should have a lot more Foragers. I suspect in many games, it's a groupthink card that is overpowered because people deliberately play in a way that overpowers it.

That's right, but Counterfeit can change this. We trashed some good treasures, because we wanted to get to 8$, not because we want to power up Forager.

[Warfreak2]

For sure, your game has Counterfeit, Knights and Fools Gold which naturally put Treasures into the trash. I meant in general, as a response to KingZog3.

[KingZog3]

For sure, your game has Counterfeit, Knights and Fools Gold which naturally put Treasures into the trash. I meant in general, as a response to KingZog3.

That's true that it's a group-think card. Although with cards like Talisman and Loan (Potion and Quarry can work too) which are cheap and you may not need later, you can get it up there on your own. Yes you need more than your opponent, but I assume that's the only reason you're making it better. I wouldn't make it worth a lot just for my 2 Foragers when my opponent has 5.