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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #575 on: December 31, 2012, 12:29:49 am »

Grujah, bulletproof LR cultist? Serial killer? Mafia? These sound reasonable, balanced and not at all bastardly?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #576 on: December 31, 2012, 12:30:41 am »

i don't get any of the good stuff before I use the rod, but the more I wait the better the stuff is.

So, you avoid all my questions with a mad theory that the longer you wait with using a power, the more great other powers you get. And also you are bulletproof and really, if there was no Ins, very little things can stop you from going very late with that rod. It is seriously badly made-up role so far.

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Also, jo was VT, what kind of power he had to know about the number of swords. Maybe we should have let the claim go, sigh.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #577 on: December 31, 2012, 12:33:24 am »

Grujah, bulletproof LR cultist? Serial killer? Mafia? These sound reasonable, balanced and not at all bastardly?

The Cult idea was simply a fear of mine, nothing more. 1-shot (full) BP WW Lightning Rod wouldn't be all that Bastard. It would be designed to allow you to Lightning-Rod while surviving everything that night to create maximum confusion. That's actually a neat idea that isn't really unbalanced much at all.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #578 on: December 31, 2012, 12:33:46 am »

Grujah, bulletproof LR cultist? Serial killer? Mafia? These sound reasonable, balanced and not at all bastardly?

Lightning Rod, SK, and cultist are all exclusive to each other - and all claimed by different people.

You did not even disclose your whole role for some "I don't wanna give away stuff to mafia" reasons. But you claim small, weird stuff in order to.. what?


And also, Eevee, QN: If we let you prove LR stuff (which proves nothing) - whom do we lynch today?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #579 on: December 31, 2012, 12:34:37 am »

Actually gonna bold this;

Galz - why didn't you stangle EEVEE? You are stronman, it goes through everything, and you 100% knew he was SCUM?

Okay let me try to reason this out. We know Insomniac is town. Therefore he was telling the truth. One QT now among Eevee and Galzria. If Eevee is telling the truth, he has no QT. Then Galz could be a Mason, having access to a QT. One problem with that; he claimed Strongman Vig. Galz is lying here. This is what I'm seeing.

Is there a scenario where Galz IS a strongman vig and Eevee is a bulletproof scum?? Well then Galz knew Eevee was scum pretty much, on the account that Insom was telling the truth. Insom provided a lot of evidence I felt, I would have shot Eevee over Insom in Galz' situation personally.

Eevee is being kinda hedgy here, he's acting weird.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #580 on: December 31, 2012, 12:35:38 am »

Isn't lightning rod a town role?  I've only seen one, and it was in the huge game.

What proof is there that Galz is strongman?  He didn't kill Eevee to prove it...so he could still be scum, right?  All we know is he killed a town major arcana...that's scummy, right?

Just thinking things through...

Lightning rod could be a scum role.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #581 on: December 31, 2012, 12:36:06 am »

Grujah, bulletproof LR cultist? Serial killer? Mafia? These sound reasonable, balanced and not at all bastardly?

The Cult idea was simply a fear of mine, nothing more. 1-shot (full) BP WW Lightning Rod wouldn't be all that Bastard. It would be designed to allow you to Lightning-Rod while surviving everything that night to create maximum confusion. That's actually a neat idea that isn't really unbalanced much at all.

or 1S BP SK LR. It even fits hermit, kinda.

I mean, it also fits hermit that the longer he waits the crazier he gets, but still doesn't prove that Eevee is town.

Eevee is like tryign to prove that he is some wierd role and that some of our theories are "out there, crazy", rather to trying to prove that he is town.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #582 on: December 31, 2012, 12:36:37 am »

Galz, your basically named VT now, or do you continue to be the new town major?

I think this is an important thing for us to know.

PPE--I don't know if I buy Galz's reason for not killing Eevee...scum together?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #583 on: December 31, 2012, 12:37:21 am »

Isn't lightning rod a town role?  I've only seen one, and it was in the huge game.

What proof is there that Galz is strongman?  He didn't kill Eevee to prove it...so he could still be scum, right?  All we know is he killed a town major arcana...that's scummy, right?

Just thinking things through...

Lightning rod could be a scum role.

But it forces your team to not NK, right?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #584 on: December 31, 2012, 12:37:49 am »

BTW - Grujah shooting questions and posts in a rapidly fashing, like right now - town Grujah.
Take a note for further games.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #585 on: December 31, 2012, 12:38:09 am »

Am I claiming now?

I am going to bed in like 3 minutes... let me know!
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #586 on: December 31, 2012, 12:38:34 am »

Agree that Eevee sounds terrible now...scrambling scum or flustered town?  Probably the former.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #587 on: December 31, 2012, 12:38:50 am »

BTW - Grujah shooting questions and posts in a rapidly fashing, like right now - town Grujah.
Take a note for further games.

Are you town?  :)
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #588 on: December 31, 2012, 12:39:01 am »

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In modern colloquial usage, the term "hermit" denotes anyone living a life apart from the rest of society, or who simply does not participate in social events as much as is common, regardless of their motivation in doing so, including the misanthrope.

From Wikipedia, I found this intriguing.

Galz is NOT named VT. I just illustrated he could be lying.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #589 on: December 31, 2012, 12:39:10 am »

MY ROLE IS WEIRD. A lot of tiptoeing here.

Grujah, does what I'm saying seem like a reasonable scum lie to you?

As to who to lynch, we got four flips to analyze plus maybe someone can make of Galzria.  Scum redirecting Ins? him making s mistake? galz somehow manipulating his flavour?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #590 on: December 31, 2012, 12:39:22 am »

Galz, your basically named VT now, or do you continue to be the new town major?

I think this is an important thing for us to know.

PPE--I don't know if I buy Galz's reason for not killing Eevee...scum together?


CAn't be scum together, only one QT.

Which reminds me that eevee prolly ain't SK in that case, but something else.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #591 on: December 31, 2012, 12:40:02 am »

Actually gonna bold this;

Galz - why didn't you stangle EEVEE? You are stronman, it goes through everything, and you 100% knew he was SCUM?

Okay let me try to reason this out. We know Insomniac is town. Therefore he was telling the truth. One QT now among Eevee and Galzria. If Eevee is telling the truth, he has no QT. Then Galz could be a Mason, having access to a QT. One problem with that; he claimed Strongman Vig. Galz is lying here. This is what I'm seeing.

Is there a scenario where Galz IS a strongman vig and Eevee is a bulletproof scum?? Well then Galz knew Eevee was scum pretty much, on the account that Insom was telling the truth. Insom provided a lot of evidence I felt, I would have shot Eevee over Insom in Galz' situation personally.

Eevee is being kinda hedgy here, he's acting weird.

You are fighting this really hard. Quite simply: I didn't honestly believe Eevee was the only other MA in the game, and while Insomniac gave enough evidence to more or less prove he's MA, nothing he provided proved he was town - as was discussed to death yesterday.

At the end of the day, letting Scum!Insomniac live and shooting Town!Eevee was a worse proposition than letting Scum!Eevee live and shooting Town!Insomniac.

I AM the Strongman, and Insomniac WAS town. So was Robz. Now do the math.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #592 on: December 31, 2012, 12:41:26 am »

Grujah, would you be satisfied with me vigged the following night?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #593 on: December 31, 2012, 12:41:35 am »

is anyone paying any attention to me?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #594 on: December 31, 2012, 12:41:48 am »

MY ROLE IS WEIRD. A lot of tiptoeing here.

Grujah, does what I'm saying seem like a reasonable scum lie to you?

As to who to lynch, we got four flips to analyze plus maybe someone can make of Galzria.  Scum redirecting Ins? him making s mistake? galz somehow manipulating his flavour?

So you'd still lynch Galz? I think that would be a bad move, given that we must put all trust in you being town? Galz would be the last person to lynch and first person to lynch tomorrow if you prove towniness - I don't know how.


And I don't know how do you mean for him to manipulate flavor when all MAs are revealed.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #595 on: December 31, 2012, 12:42:22 am »

GUYS, let's do this.

Lynch Eevee, if he is some wacky SK role then we KNOW Galz is lying. He claimed Strongman Vig and would have a QT! If Eevee is part of a faction, Galz is named-VT, that's great too. If Eevee is town, then again Galz is lying. What the heck is Eevee's special power again?

About Grujah, yeah this definitely more like town-Grujah.

yuma, I'd rather no claiming yet. Too much action. That reminds me... I need to say something regarding that.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #596 on: December 31, 2012, 12:42:54 am »

alright, bedtime for me then... bye all
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #597 on: December 31, 2012, 12:43:18 am »

So frustrating to get a super town role and then finding myself in this situation!! Nothing I can do to prove myself? anything? all my actions have been what I deemed to be the most pro
town with my very complicated but strong role.
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #598 on: December 31, 2012, 12:43:53 am »

Actually gonna bold this;

Galz - why didn't you stangle EEVEE? You are stronman, it goes through everything, and you 100% knew he was SCUM?

Okay let me try to reason this out. We know Insomniac is town. Therefore he was telling the truth. One QT now among Eevee and Galzria. If Eevee is telling the truth, he has no QT. Then Galz could be a Mason, having access to a QT. One problem with that; he claimed Strongman Vig. Galz is lying here. This is what I'm seeing.

Is there a scenario where Galz IS a strongman vig and Eevee is a bulletproof scum?? Well then Galz knew Eevee was scum pretty much, on the account that Insom was telling the truth. Insom provided a lot of evidence I felt, I would have shot Eevee over Insom in Galz' situation personally.

Eevee is being kinda hedgy here, he's acting weird.

You are fighting this really hard. Quite simply: I didn't honestly believe Eevee was the only other MA in the game, and while Insomniac gave enough evidence to more or less prove he's MA, nothing he provided proved he was town - as was discussed to death yesterday.

At the end of the day, letting Scum!Insomniac live and shooting Town!Eevee was a worse proposition than letting Scum!Eevee live and shooting Town!Insomniac.

I AM the Strongman, and Insomniac WAS town. So was Robz. Now do the math.

Can you answer my Q?  No more vig shots, right?  Are you basically the new Wizard?
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Re: Mafia XVIII: Major Arcana Mafia II (Day 2! Deadline 1/3/13, 10 PM forum time)
« Reply #599 on: December 31, 2012, 12:44:25 am »

i wasn't saying lynch galz. we have FOUR flips..
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