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[Galzria]

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Me >> Insomniac > Jimmm >>> Eevee > Everybody else >> Shraeye > Axxle > Robz >> Yuma

Of course, that's a bit harder to quantify in a double-scum game, but it's a baseline anyway.

[Axxle]

And 2 for 1 might be a bit bad if we do this in the wrong order.

I know I said this but Galz's tunnelling on yuma seems really bad/scummy.

[Axxle]

I'm thinking: Lynch Robz or Eevee, Galz NK's the other if they don't flip scum, Lynch Galz if the NK doesn't flip scum?  Might be stopped by a roleblocker though, not sure if strongman goes around that.

Meant to quote this.

[jotheonah]

Ok, hold on now. We have a pool of three with one scum - I take it back Insom, seems to have worked out well.

@Axxle, killing all three seems like a terrible way to handle this.

People voting yuma: does it give you any pause that the two people who pushed his wagon are two of Insomniac's three possible scum? That strikes me as a reason to hold off, scumslip or none.

[Axxle]

@Axxle, killing all three seems like a terrible way to handle this.

If it's 1 scum and 2 town I agree, but I'll have to hear from insom because it might be 1 scum, 2 unknown (town, mafia, werewolf, sk)

[jotheonah]

Don't have full access but. I'm the wizard (major arcana) I'm claimin because out of Galz/robz/Eevee one of them has a qt. thus I am now claiming two are town and one is not. I don't have full access unfortunately so I can't fill claim but I'm major arcana there might be a doctor so mafia wifom etc.

Based on responses I think Galz is most likely scum but I need town help

I am the wizard

[Eevee]

@Axxle, killing all three seems like a terrible way to handle this.

If it's 1 scum and 2 town I agree, but I'll have to hear from insom because it might be 1 scum, 2 unknown (town, mafia, werewolf, sk)

I understood that he knows one of us has a qt and the other two don't. Fwiw, I'm leaning towards Robz because galz did risk a counterclaim when he claimed his card.

[Robz888]

GUYS. I have a plan. Hold on. Don't don't do anything. I can solve this.

[Robz888]

I am a dayvig. So, I can shoot either Eevee or Galz. This should clear me (mostly--I guess I could be a scum day Vig major arcana, but other than that...), and we will figure out which of the other two is scum. If we are wrong, we lynch the other.

This works, yes?

[Eevee]

Whats your card?

[Robz888]

Whats your card?

Five of wands

[Eevee]

Whats your card?

King of swords perhaps? 

[jotheonah]

So, for those of you following along at home, two people accused of being scum just claimed vig.

Dayvig, however, is a lot less likely scum than nightvig, which can look a lot like regular nightkill.

And then there's Eevee.

Robz, don't shoot anybody in the middle of the night.

Eevee, I think perhaps you ought to claim. Galz and rObz both have now, and it's tricky for scum to fake claim at this stage in the game.

[Eevee]

Cayvie, would q day vig be flavored, could we tell if it was made by a werewolf or a townie?

fos at Robz for forgetting to mention the king of swords/straight up misleading town..

[jotheonah]

Oh, good catch Eevee. There is a scum dayvig. Oy.

[cayvie]

Cayvie, would q day vig be flavored, could we tell if it was made by a werewolf or a townie?

fos at Robz for forgetting to mention the king of swords/straight up misleading town..

watch me not answer this question

get ready

are you watching?

here goes:

[jotheonah]

Scum does not appear to have a strongman kill, so Galzria could prove himself if he declared his target and someone protected said target.

[Eevee]

Thanks for the fast non-answer.

Joth, i would rather not claim unless i have to to avoid getting lynched. I think we caught Robz anyways, and isnt it better to not help him decide which of me and Galz to vig if he is scum?

not sure about this though, what do others think?

[Eevee]

Scum does not appear to have a strongman kill, so Galzria could prove himself if he declared his target and someone protected said target.

major arcanas, redirects and wasting the doctor for one night though..

[Jimmmmm]

@Axxle, killing all three seems like a terrible way to handle this.

While I agree with this, that's only the worst-case scenario. I think it's fairly safe to say that at least one of {Insom, Galz, Robz, Eevee} is scum. I also think it's reasonable to say that the most likely Town of these is Insom. If we believe Galz (not saying I do, still unsure what to make of Galz' game so far, but Galz seems the easiest to verify) then that leaves us with Robz and Eevee. If we hit scum, that's great, mission successful. If not, then Galz can take care of the other and we're 1-1 which seems like a good return. If it turns out Galz is (the?) scum, then he's/his team's going to NK anyway so there's not much we can do about that, and we can lynch Galz and be 1-1 from Town kills. Worst case, they're all Town and Insom is scum, in which case it might be worth it to find him out rather than wrongly trust him for the rest of the game.

So at this stage, Axxle's plan seems plausible. Would like to hear from Robz and Eevee. And Galz. And Insom. And everyone else.

PPE: Wow okay, some stuff has happened. New plan? Maybe we do an unofficial vote and if we get to "L" then Robz can dayvig?

[Eevee]

I think its extremely likely that Robz has a dayvig like he claims.

[Galzria]

I'll point out that these reads were made before Robz claimed, and had we gone to night for whatever reason, Robz has been targeted for my NK for some time. Buddying is a crime in my book. Always has been. And his buddying (as noticed by Grujah), was rather silly. Between his sheep vote to Yuma (still think that was a scumslip), to backing me with absolute confidence on shooting Shraeye, he had already set himself apart.

The only question is do we lynch him, or do I NK him? In either case, he'll fire before we can do anything. I can no longer make him take his power to the grave. Oh well

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Me >> Insomniac > Jimmm >>> Eevee > Everybody else >> Shraeye > Axxle > Robz >> Yuma

Of course, that's a bit harder to quantify in a double-scum game, but it's a baseline anyway.

[jotheonah]

Yeah, totally leaving out the scum dayvig + having said mum since then ... I'm warming to a Vote: Robz.

[Eevee]

Dare I suggest trying to quickwagon him before he gets online to vig a townie? I think it's very likely he is scum..

[Galzria]

Dare I suggest trying to quickwagon him before he gets online to vig a townie? I think it's very likely he is scum..

If he's not, you understand that I'm shooting you, correct?