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[Insomniac]

I'm not opposed to an ashersky lynch but I don't think its particularily strong. I don't like he's trying to call the scum team day 1 but again I don't think that makes him scum

[Galzria]

Where is everyone?

I'm here waiting for people to appear and answer my question. :/

I did! But I'm at dinner now, so not posting everywhere I normally would. I know, FoS dinner.

[Robz888]

Robz should never leave the forums, everything just dies in here instantly.

Dont worry I never will. I didn't like the suddenness of ash's brash reads. Because he wasn't around, so it's not like the organically built up to him calling the team like that, you know? Coming in with "this is my opinion" and it being a fairly comprehensive opinion, I think that's just a bit more likely to be fake than if you were around all day, your reads slowly getting more certain.

[Dsell]

Scummy<-Ashersky----Destierros-----------Insomniac-Jimmmm----Eevee-------------------------Galzria-----Robz----------->Townie

[Eevee]

It's interesting how suddenly Dsell and I have very similar reads/thoughts. I also think similar with Robz and Galzria to an extent, but ashersky and Destierros both being scum caught this effortlessly just feels too easy to be true.

Robz>Dsell>Galzria>Insomniac>Jimmm>ashersky>Destierros for me, towniest to scummiest.

[Dsell]

I will say this for Ashersky: I've just reread Eevee and there has been little to no buddying from him. I'm willing to chock it up to a quick start to the game/theory talk for now, but it is interesting to note.

[Eevee]

I think this thing with me buddying up to everyone
might be blowing out of proportion.

[Dsell]

It's not that you always buddy up to everyone, but it might be something to note that you haven't buddied up to anyone in this game. Or it might not. I'm not sure yet.

[ashersky]

Back from lunch, btw.

I will be around at deadline tomorrow, fyi.  I know this place starts slowing down around now, which is just after 2:00 p.m. here.

Where is everyone else?  We could LaLL at this point.

[Destierro]

Robz should never leave the forums, everything just dies in here instantly.

Dont worry I never will. I didn't like the suddenness of ash's brash reads. Because he wasn't around, so it's not like the organically built up to him calling the team like that, you know? Coming in with "this is my opinion" and it being a fairly comprehensive opinion, I think that's just a bit more likely to be fake than if you were around all day, your reads slowly getting more certain.

See, I don't really see the logic behind this argument. The forum is only 4-5 pages of game, so it's easily read in 10 minutes or so. Add maybe another half hour and a fresh view has the same weight as one who has been following the thread the whole time.

I still think Dsell is the scummiest, but his reactions to being at L-2 appear to be as it would if he were town. Sadly, no one else has stood out to me, so he remains at the top of my list.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like we haven't heard much from jimm. I have 0 read on him, scum or no. Last thing he said was a while ago, and he hasn't really added anything meaningful to the conversation. It's a little disconcerting.

Ash seems to be getting a lot of hate for just pointing out the facts. He seems to be town-sided in all of his arguments, and really doesn't strike me as scum.

[ashersky]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like we haven't heard much from jimm. I have 0 read on him, scum or no. Last thing he said was a while ago, and he hasn't really added anything meaningful to the conversation. It's a little disconcerting.

Good point.  He's at the top of the lurker list, I think.

[Eevee]

Destierro seems to be picking up the game really fast.

.. however, I still think find him pretty scummy. Also disagree on ashersky's LaLL-point, there was plenty of talking earlier when you weren't here and you weren't suspected for it. On top of that guys like me and Dsell have been here posting from the day start pretty much non stop.

Jimms is always on the quieter side, but I do agree his lack of posting is making him look slightly worse. And he wasn't a townread for me earlier.

[Dsell]

Pretty sure that Jimmmm is sleeping now. I'm sure he'll have stuff to say when he gets up.

And Ashersky did a whole lot more than just point out the facts...he called out an entire scumteam on Day 1. A prediction that I know is not true. Nobody's objecting to him listing the facts, but it should be no surprise that calling out a whole scumteam would get a strong reaction.

[Destierro]

I looked in the wiki but couldnt find it, LaLL? What does it mean?

[ashersky]

Btw, should we do that scum reads/town reads thing? I feel like that's a fine and useful tool for town.

Normally we would have the ICs ask, but they haven't claimed, blah blah blah.

Anyway, I'll just start.

Likely Town: Galzria, Eevee, Insomniac (in that order, yes I have a stronger townread on Galz actually)

Lurking Scum (like, what have they even said?): Destierro, ashersky

Non-lurking scum: Jimm, Dsell

At this point I'd guess that the scum team is 3 of Destierro, ashersky, Jimm, and Dsell... based mostly on my townreads of the others.

Eevee, here's me being called out for lurking, which refutes this:

...Also disagree on ashersky's LaLL-point, there was plenty of talking earlier when you weren't here and you weren't suspected for it...

[ashersky]

I looked in the wiki but couldnt find it, LaLL? What does it mean?

Lynch All Lurkers, Literally.

[Dsell]

Lynch all Lurkers, Literally.

Lynch all Lurkers has always been a thing, but LALL is something Robz has been saying since the end of the game he modded, where he had a mod's-eye-view of the entire scumteam lurk every day. Now everyone's picking up on it to emphasize that lurking is really a crime worthy of lynching.

[Destierro]

Ah I see. Well sleeping is perfectly acceptable, but if he doesn't post much tomorrow he's going to look really suspicious.

[ashersky]

And Ashersky did a whole lot more than just point out the facts...he called out an entire scumteam on Day 1. A prediction that I know is not true. Nobody's objecting to him listing the facts, but it should be no surprise that calling out a whole scumteam would get a strong reaction.

Dsell is right here--there should have been a strong reaction to me naming a scum team in my first post.  Am I absolutely correct?  Maybe, maybe not.  But it's a start for where we look, based on what I saw happen up to that point, and a reference point for comparing everything that came after.

[Eevee]

Btw, should we do that scum reads/town reads thing? I feel like that's a fine and useful tool for town.

Normally we would have the ICs ask, but they haven't claimed, blah blah blah.

Anyway, I'll just start.

Likely Town: Galzria, Eevee, Insomniac (in that order, yes I have a stronger townread on Galz actually)

Lurking Scum (like, what have they even said?): Destierro, ashersky

Non-lurking scum: Jimm, Dsell

At this point I'd guess that the scum team is 3 of Destierro, ashersky, Jimm, and Dsell... based mostly on my townreads of the others.

Eevee, here's me being called out for lurking, which refutes this:

...Also disagree on ashersky's LaLL-point, there was plenty of talking earlier when you weren't here and you weren't suspected for it...

To which I answered with "ashersky is probably sleeping, which is a null tell, not a scum tell".

And yeah, ashersky you called the entire scum team on your very first post and it included me who I know to be town and also all your other reads on everything seemed totally different from mine. It just looks bad for you in my eyes.

[Destierro]

I'm out for the night, see you guys tomorrow.

[ashersky]

And yeah, ashersky you called the entire scum team on your very first post and it included me who I know to be town and also all your other reads on everything seemed totally different from mine. It just looks bad for you in my eyes.

Wouldn't you say this if you were scum?

[ashersky]

To which I answered with "ashersky is probably sleeping, which is a null tell, not a scum tell".

Right.  You didn't call me out for it, which I appreciate.  You're good with time zones.  I'm just saying I didn't get a full pass for it either.

[Eevee]

And yeah, ashersky you called the entire scum team on your very first post and it included me who I know to be town and also all your other reads on everything seemed totally different from mine. It just looks bad for you in my eyes.

Wouldn't you say this if you were scum?

I probably would. Stupid post by me. Although not really, if I'm lynched or vengekilled it becomes relevant again.

To which I answered with "ashersky is probably sleeping, which is a null tell, not a scum tell".

Right.  You didn't call me out for it, which I appreciate.  You're good with time zones.  I'm just saying I didn't get a full pass for it either.

You did from me!

Sad to see the action died down from today. 8h 15min until the deadline, I don't know about my access tomorrow, we plan on going christmas shopping in 4 hours and that should last until the deadline. I have access before leaving home, and phone with me the entire time, but can't really be staring at it the entire time now can I?

But, as of now destierro, ashersky, Jimm and maybe-maybe Insomniac have my blessing as lynch targets.

[Eevee]

Robz, Ins, Jimm and Galzria vanishing from the forums when ashersky got in and we could have had everyone there at the same time was unfortunate, but such is blitz.