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[Jimmmmm]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

That doesn't make sense. If he's always Town, how do you know that you'll be able to tell if he's scum?

If he acts differently than usual, I'll think he's scum. I mean, obviously, we'll see if that works.

Hmm. I don't know. I guess I see where you're coming from. I'm finding both you and Eevee have an annoying habit of flipping Town when I think you're scummy. One of you has got to be scum eventually, why not now?

Obviously that line of reasoning is even worse than yours.

[Dsell]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

I got weird Vibes from you D1 of "Read the Freakin' Flavor", but nobody else did so I dropped it until I came back, then lynched your scummy tail.

Still, it was far from slamdunk even then, and I wouldn't count on my ability to do so any time you're scum.

Not true, I made the case against Eevee on day 1!

[Eevee]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

I got weird Vibes from you D1 of "Read the Freakin' Flavor", but nobody else did so I dropped it until I came back, then lynched your scummy tail.

Still, it was far from slamdunk even then, and I wouldn't count on my ability to do so any time you're scum.

yeah, and people have mislynched me a bunch too. you even said "eevee hasnt been his jolly self in the most recent games" like two hours ago. I guess this game isn't that easy, and gut-reads are never really bulletproof. Not that anyone is claiming that. And I do think they are a useful tool for town.

[Galzria]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

I got weird Vibes from you D1 of "Read the Freakin' Flavor", but nobody else did so I dropped it until I came back, then lynched your scummy tail.

Still, it was far from slamdunk even then, and I wouldn't count on my ability to do so any time you're scum.

Not true, I made the case against Eevee on day 1!

Hey, you WERE in that game! I'd forgotten. I don't recall your D1 case on Eevee either, but I won't argue that it wasn't there. It's just enough people read him as town that I didn't explore my feelings about him further until later.

[Insomniac]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

I got weird Vibes from you D1 of "Read the Freakin' Flavor", but nobody else did so I dropped it until I came back, then lynched your scummy tail.

Still, it was far from slamdunk even then, and I wouldn't count on my ability to do so any time you're scum.

Not true, I made the case against Eevee on day 1!

Hey, you WERE in that game! I'd forgotten. I don't recall your D1 case on Eevee either, but I won't argue that it wasn't there. It's just enough people read him as town that I didn't explore my feelings about him further until later.

I think I read Eevee as town there incorrectly but it might have been offset because I thought you were scummy for your pushing Neo so hard when I knew I had eHalcs favourite role in the game.

[Dsell]

@Galz, I was also in Hydra. I was doduo (with Insom) and I did all the posting on the final day.

[Galzria]

@Galz, I was also in Hydra. I was doduo (with Insom) and I did all the posting on the final day.

I never wrapped my head around ANYTHING in Hydra, tbh.

But let's focus, people! This game, here, now!
(This goes for me too)

[Insomniac]

How's this for focus

Vote: Destierro

I know I know its the new guy.

BUT Destierro voted for Dsell when Robz, Eevee, Myself and Sort of Galz had expressed suspicion of Dsell, thus making him the popular opinion and it just seemed a bit opportunistic to vote Dsell there and what I would expect of a newer scum player.

[Jimmmmm]

Welcome to Mafia.

[Dsell]

What am I supposed to do if I have a scum read on Insomniac but it's based almost 100% on meta reasons that other people wouldn't even get?

Because I genuinely think that Insomniac is able to read me better than this, having been scum with me at least a couple times. He's burying his head in the sand and saying I'm scummy, and it feels highly manufactured to me (I think I can read him fairly well too).

But I can see how these would be uncompelling to anyone else.

[Eevee]

What am I supposed to do if I have a scum read on Insomniac but it's based almost 100% on meta reasons that other people wouldn't even get?

Because I genuinely think that Insomniac is able to read me better than this, having been scum with me at least a couple times. He's burying his head in the sand and saying I'm scummy, and it feels highly manufactured to me (I think I can read him fairly well too).

But I can see how these would be uncompelling to anyone else.

Well, he just voted for someone for voting you, which implies he thinks you are town again.

[Dsell]

Actually I think his last post was a pretty good catch. So maybe reconsidering.

[ashersky]

Okay, I'm here, and caught up.

Since I literally invented this set-up, I of course know how to break it.  (Not really.  Well, I did invent it, but not the other part.)

Here's my scum team prediction to go back and check at games end:  Dsell/Eevee/(Insom)

Anyway.  No comment on the masons thing, I watched this unfold the last game and if you really want my thought, you'll see them in the QTs.

I'm actually good with a Vote: Dsell already, after watching his interactions so far in thread, especially with Eevee.  Insom vs. Galz vs. Robz went through my head for the 3rd scum slot, for different reasons.

Insom for not being himself, Galz for being brasher than usual, and Robz for sounded exactly like he did as VT in VII.  I mean EXACTLY.  Which is what scum!Robz would do for sure.

So there we are.


PPE -- Nope, no more confusion on the third scum:

How's this for focus

Vote: Destierro

I know I know its the new guy.

BUT Destierro voted for Dsell when Robz, Eevee, Myself and Sort of Galz had expressed suspicion of Dsell, thus making him the popular opinion and it just seemed a bit opportunistic to vote Dsell there and what I would expect of a newer scum player.

[Robz888]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

Yeah. But the time for me to reconsider my Eevee reading ability will be after he flips scum in a game where I pegged him as town, not before. Like if you had been scum in VI, then kaboom.

[Jimmmmm]

Hi ash! Nice to hear an opinion out of you.

[Dsell]

Ashersky's confidence in this scumteam prediction is laughable.

[ashersky]

Ashersky's confidence in this scumteam prediction is laughable.

Where's Frisk to do his patented quote change?

[Insomniac]

Ashersky's confidence in this scumteam prediction is laughable.

Where's Frisk to do his patented quote change?

He's left us and it's sad, but don't worry I still change people's quotes

[shraeye]

Vote Count 1.2

Dsell (3) - Eevee, Destierro, ashersky
Destierro (1) - Insomniac

Not voting: Dsell, Robz888, Galzria, Jimmmmm

With 8 alive, it takes 5 for a majority lynch to occur.  However, this is blitz mafia, and a plurality at the deadline WILL result in a lynch.  If a tie exists at the deadline, the Hidden Democracy mechanism will be implemented.

Deadline is tomorrow, Thursday, Dec. 19, at 8:00 pm forum time.

[Dsell]

Insomniac, Robz, Destierro, Ashersky, and Eevee (and maybe Galz? Not really sure) have all expressed a fair amount of suspicion on me in this game. Within the first few hours.

I suck at playing town.

[Eevee]

Okay Dsell wagon is growing at an alarming rate. L-2!

On first glance ashersky's post feels scummy, I'll try to put my finger on it once I'm done eating.

[Robz888]

Insomniac, Robz, Destierro, Ashersky, and Eevee (and maybe Galz? Not really sure) have all expressed a fair amount of suspicion on me in this game. Within the first few hours.

I suck at playing town.

No, I don't know. I kind of find you less suspicious than ashersky now. Ashersky just zipped in here, called out the scum team, and dropped vote #3 on you.

[Dsell]

I would have been at L-1 had Insomniac not just switched his vote!

[Insomniac]

I would have been at L-1 had Insomniac not just switched his vote!

I never voted for you

[Dsell]

And Asher only addressed Insom's post in a PPE, meaning he was ready to put me at L-1!