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[Robz888]

Btw, should we do that scum reads/town reads thing? I feel like that's a fine and useful tool for town.

Normally we would have the ICs ask, but they haven't claimed, blah blah blah.

Anyway, I'll just start.

Likely Town: Galzria, Eevee, Insomniac (in that order, yes I have a stronger townread on Galz actually)

Lurking Scum (like, what have they even said?): Destierro, ashersky

Non-lurking scum: Jimm, Dsell

At this point I'd guess that the scum team is 3 of Destierro, ashersky, Jimm, and Dsell... based mostly on my townreads of the others.

[Eevee]

I have a hard time trusting Robz ability to read Eevee.

Not that I think he's wrong here, at least not yet.

Iirc Robz has generally read me pretty well. Do you disagree?

[Insomniac]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

[Robz888]

I have a hard time trusting Robz ability to read Eevee.

Not that I think he's wrong here, at least not yet.

Iirc Robz has generally read me pretty well. Do you disagree?

Yeah, what's this then? I have like a pretty good history of reading Eevee. I read him right in BlitzVI (I read Galz wrong, unfortunately). Oh, and I read him mostly right last game, I just had to not get myself lynched which was why I voted for him and I was trusting Frisk.

[Galzria]

Well, if no one else has any input on that, I'm going to conclude Robz seems towny to me then.

Galzria, were you joking when you called me jumpy? I still have the bad feeling about Dsell.

About the pregame stuff? Of course. You were joking about me seeming scummy before I ever got my PM, so I figured claiming my ability to read you as scum before you ever received your PM was appropriate.

[Robz888]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

[Insomniac]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

I just find it a bit wierd because I don't have any strong feelings yet, I think Dsell is slightly scummy for trying to be given town credit super hard but I don't have any Eureka reads or anything yet. So it has more to do with you having 3 reads this early.

[Dsell]

I find Insomniac scummiest for reading me incorrectly.

Robz seems townie.

[Robz888]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

I just find it a bit wierd because I don't have any strong feelings yet, I think Dsell is slightly scummy for trying to be given town credit super hard but I don't have any Eureka reads or anything yet. So it has more to do with you having 3 reads this early.

I reserve the right to completely change them, but I think it's better for the game if everybody tossed out some reads. And what can I say, I have strong townreads on Eevee and Galz.

[Eevee]

Well, if no one else has any input on that, I'm going to conclude Robz seems towny to me then.

Galzria, were you joking when you called me jumpy? I still have the bad feeling about Dsell.

About the pregame stuff? Of course. You were joking about me seeming scummy before I ever got my PM, so I figured claiming my ability to read you as scum before you ever received your PM was appropriate.

I think Galzria was really scummy in the pregame, with his vote on me and everything. Only one problem, roles hadn't been divided yet then.

Wow, a little jumpy today? Worried that I had already read you for your yet to be received scum PM? Hmmm?

This is what I was referring to, okay. Fair enough, if you had thought I really was jumpy, that would have been scummy to me. But no.

Robz's exercise:

I have a couple of guys who I think are either masons or scummy, but I think revealing those might be antitown. Wouldnt it be?

Robz is a top town read. Dsell top scum, but it's very slight. Ashersky is probably just asleep, I didn't even remember he was playing but meh. Scummy because he hasnt posted, hopefully this will change soon. Galzria I don't know, don't have a town read on him but his d1 as town has read scummy to me earlier (see the game we just lost one game back). Insomniac is no read yet, which is slightly scummy because I sometimes get town reads from him. New guy is pretty much noread (slight scum), don't think his lurking is scummy yet but not really towny either.

[Dsell]

I wasn't meaning to try to take town credit, I was just shocked that Eevee found my scummiest after all I had done was put forth one idea (which was a good one).

[Eevee]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

I just find it a bit wierd because I don't have any strong feelings yet, I think Dsell is slightly scummy for trying to be given town credit super hard but I don't have any Eureka reads or anything yet. So it has more to do with you having 3 reads this early.

I reserve the right to completely change them, but I think it's better for the game if everybody tossed out some reads. And what can I say, I have strong townreads on Eevee and Galz.

i absolutely agree with this way of playing the game, especially in blitz.

[Insomniac]

Eevee I remember a time when you used to always think I was scum, I didn't realize I had shifted to town in your eyes.

Scummiest: Dsell

Haven't enough content from: Ash, Destierro

Towniest: Galz

Null: Everyone else.

[Destierro]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

I feel like I'm at a distinct disadvantage here, as I don't get this kind of intuition.

Anyways, Dsell seems to be overly trying to get credit for being pro town, and that sounds really scummy to me.
Rob is really driving the conversation, not sure if that means much, could be overly active scum, or just town. I don't have a good read on him.
Galz seems very town, cause of his earlier posts, namely 127 [/quote] Well, he can sit here and Mason hunt all he wants, or he can do something useful like scum hunt. [/quote]
So with all that, i think i'm going to vote : Dsell just because he seems the scummiest of those who have weighed in yet.

[Destierro]

I'll figure out quotes eventually! =/

[Galzria]

Btw, should we do that scum reads/town reads thing? I feel like that's a fine and useful tool for town.

Normally we would have the ICs ask, but they haven't claimed, blah blah blah.

Anyway, I'll just start.

Likely Town: Galzria, Eevee, Insomniac (in that order, yes I have a stronger townread on Galz actually)

Lurking Scum (like, what have they even said?): Destierro, ashersky

Non-lurking scum: Jimm, Dsell

At this point I'd guess that the scum team is 3 of Destierro, ashersky, Jimm, and Dsell... based mostly on my townreads of the others.

Let's see....

I don't have any strong town reads, tbh. I can't argue with the LALL list, and I find Dsell less scummy than you make him out to be, but...

Probably Eevee is my Towniest, because he does seem to be happy-go-lucky Eevee - however that HASN'T been the town!Eevee showing up to most games recently, so... I'm wary still.

After Eevee is probably Robz. I honestly want to put Insomniac here, but something about his posts have felt forced. I'll reread and see if I cab put my finger on it.

Then comes Dsell, but I'll admit I have very little Meta information here. I don't know what town!Dsell vs scum!Dsell looks like, but isn't scum!Dsell more lurky? Despite his asking for credit, I do think he deserves some, do there's that.

Fourth is Insomniac. As stated above, he's felt a little forced, but I can't put my finger on it.

Jimmmmm/Ashersky/Destierro I've got nothing on, but one is likely to be town, and maybe two. I doubt very much that paints the scum team.

[Eevee]

Destierro, I can definitely symphatize. A lot of new people have been very annoyed about the constant referring to past games in the past. Not much you can do about it though, and it gets easier as you start remembering who is who better.

[Eevee]

Really liking the participation level this far. Also got a good feeling about Galzria's read post, in that I agree with a lot of what he said which has been the case when we've been on the same side in the past.

[Dsell]

Like someone pointed out, Ashersky is probably asleep. I'll be really interested to hear what he says when he does show up.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Vote Count 1.1


Dsell (2) - Eevee, Destierro

Not voting: Insomniac, Ashersky, Dsell, Robz888, Galzria, Jimmm

With 8 alive, it takes 5 for a majority lynch to occur.  However, this is blitz mafia, and a plurality at the deadline WILL result in a lynch.  If a tie exists at the deadline, the Hidden Democracy mechanism will be implemented.

Deadline is tomorrow, Thursday, Dec. 19, at 8:00 pm forum time.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Shraeye, Arch - I'm back, thanks.

[Jimmmmm]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

That doesn't make sense. If he's always Town, how do you know that you'll be able to tell if he's scum?

[Robz888]

I think its weird Robz has a town read on Eevee but I'm not treating the exchange as anything yet.

Why is this remotely weird? I have played more games with Eevee than any of you and he's always Town and lately I can pretty much tell correctly.

That doesn't make sense. If he's always Town, how do you know that you'll be able to tell if he's scum?

If he acts differently than usual, I'll think he's scum. I mean, obviously, we'll see if that works.

[Eevee]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

[Galzria]

Jimmm has got a point there, Robz. As long as you've never pinned me as scum early, you always reading me well pretty much just proves me that "I always act in a certain way, you recognize it and I draw town helluvalot". No proof you'd be able to tell the difference if I was scum yet?

I got weird Vibes from you D1 of "Read the Freakin' Flavor", but nobody else did so I dropped it until I came back, then lynched your scummy tail.

Still, it was far from slamdunk even then, and I wouldn't count on my ability to do so any time you're scum.