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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2012, 03:51:33 pm »
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AdamHorton 4-1 hsiale (1 draw)

1-0 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-113652-64d025b8.html
1-0 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-114851-c1f66f7b.html
2-0 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-120530-4959b139.html
3-0 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-121923-025b5db8.html
3-1 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-123328-06a8802b.html
4-1 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-124537-6434a630.html

I feel I just played a bit worse all the time so lost. One game was a bit annoying when on a board with no interesting $4 or $5 buys I kept getting $5 all the time. I'm quite happy with the game I won, where my plan was to use Swindler to load him up with terminals (no villages on the board) and this worked quite well as my deck was faster.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2012, 03:55:11 pm »
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Thanks for the match. Here's a link to the playlist with my commentary.



I know in a couple of matches I noticed a little bit of bad luck, some going each way. I'm pretty sure we'll both learn from this match...
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2012, 04:03:11 pm »
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Tdog defeats Joseph2302 4-1
Game 1: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-120600-05e191bd.html
Tdog 76- Joseph2302 69
Two power cards on the board here in mountebanks and governor. We both play a mountbank into a governor here. I think I draw luckier here grabbing 4 platinums to his one, and I also choose to draw governor versus trashing curses, which I think helped me grab those colonies and platinums.

Game 2: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-121803-310c37d6.html
Joseph2302 63- Tdog 55
This was a pretty interesting game. Lots of nice engine cards in festival and peddler, but no draw. We both end up with an engine fit around fairgrounds. He goes all in on the fairgrounds earlier then I do, as I spend too much time building up my "engine". This was the first in an alt vp theme for our games

Game 3: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-122627-2ae5c0d9.html
Tdog 49- Joseph2302 42
Alternate VP heaven here, with 4 alternate vp cards. Silk road and fairgrounds were the key ones here. We both go mountebank into silk roads and fairgrounds. I picked up a couple of lighthouses, which were key in blocking a few of hhis mountebanks. I also green a little bit more then him, and am able to grab one more province.

Game 4: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-123834-46cd0b13.html
Tdog 65- Joseph2302 46
He goes for the scrying pool engine, while I play jester big money basically. I think the scrying pools were a mistake, as there were no plus actions and nothing interesting to draw. This was the least close of all of our games.

Game 5: http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/13/game-20121213-124505-7768c14b.html
Tdog 23- Joseph2302 22
A tight game to finish of the set for us! Ill gotten gains into gardens was the key here, with some salvagers to help. Salvager ends up being the key here, as we both salavage some big cards to get to the vp quickly during the rush. This could have gone either way. I think I greened a little earlier which helped (learning off of my IGG mistake in round 1). I go gardens estate on the last turn for the win!

Thanks for the series Joseph2302, a tightly fought series all the way through. A bunch of good games in there.
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2012, 05:48:54 pm »
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Our first upset... not a huge upset, but still!
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Re: Rats! Division (Losers Bracket) - Bracket and Results
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 01:30:07 am »
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Do you allot or seed the opponents for the 2nd round again or does winner A plays against winner B, winner C against winner D,... And if so, can we start the 2nd round when we know our opponent?
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2012, 01:56:13 am »
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I'll be reordering each round to reflect the current matchups... just follow the lines, if there's no line yet then the matchup hasn't been set.
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2012, 06:58:26 am »
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Ok thanks. I didn't reed this.
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2012, 03:48:05 pm »
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Antonidas defeats Psyduck 4-1

Game 1 (A 33 - P 23): A board with lots of powerful attacks that were mostly ignored. We followed very similar strategies, though I think my stashes gave me a slight edge.
Game 2 (A 64 - P 30): Lots of different strategic interactions here. Psyduck opted for HT/gardens while I chapeled into tournaments; my unopposed tournaments just ended up being too fast.
Game 3 (A 35 - P 43): University/vineyard stood out in this one, although there's no +buy. I moved all-in on actions but didn't start picking up the vineyards themselves until too late. Meanwhile Psyduck ended up with a very effective hybrid strategy.
Game 4 (A 44 - P 27): The least interesting game, as vault BM comfortably outraced governors. My hoard buy probably should have been a gold or another vault.
Game 5 (A 51 - P 40): A really tense game! The likely-dominant hamlet/wharf/conspirator engine was complicated by the presence of possession and vineyards. My early quarry gave me a big lead on engine-building, but Psyduck countered with a very early possession. A good bit of back-and-forth followed, until turn 15 when Psyduck was one buy short of piling out the great halls for the win on my possessed turn! I don't know if I've ever been more nervous in a dominion game. I was so rattled that I missed my own ability to three-pile while ahead on my own turn... But fortunately for me Psyduck got a subpar turn and couldn't take the lead, and I could end it on turn 16.

Psyduck was a wonderful opponent, and I think we both learned a lot from the match. Thanks for the great games!
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2012, 06:01:42 pm »
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I must agree, these were awsome games against a friendly and sincere opponent. Especially thank you Antonidas for telling me what would happen if I played possession in a possessed turn. Otherwise I would probably have tried it just to find out if I could possess myself. ;)

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Antonidas defeats Psyduck 4-1

Game 1 (A 33 - P 23): A board with lots of powerful attacks that were mostly ignored. We followed very similar strategies, though I think my stashes gave me a slight edge.

I really wasn't sure what to do with so many attacks, but realized there would be lots of junk (either dealt by Mountebank or Sea Hag). Thus Masq seemed strong, and we both ignored Ghost Ship and only got one Margrave each late for +Buy. Yet, I don't see what would have been optimal play here. Perhaps Stash was strong, I also think Loan helped cleaning out Copper.
I guess I also wasn't that lucky with my Mountebanks. I could deal out junk in only 40% of plays (4/10), while Antonidas hit me in 100% of plays (5/5).

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Game 2 (A 64 - P 30): Lots of different strategic interactions here. Psyduck opted for HT/gardens while I chapeled into tournaments; my unopposed tournaments just ended up being too fast.

100% agreed. Although I didn't play it well, HT/Gardens seems just to be too slow without support. Antonidas won that game by choosing a better strategy.

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Game 3 (A 35 - P 43): University/vineyard stood out in this one, although there's no +buy. I moved all-in on actions but didn't start picking up the vineyards themselves until too late. Meanwhile Psyduck ended up with a very effective hybrid strategy.

Actually, I was surprised in the end to see Vineyards being worth more than Provinces. I'm not sure if I had won if I had bought Vineyards over Provinces though, as buying Provinces gave me an early lead without risking premature three-piling.
For me this was the funniest match. Not because I won, but because University/Hunting Party worked way much better than I had expected, with Caravans providing additional fuel.

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Game 4 (A 44 - P 27): The least interesting game, as vault BM comfortably outraced governors. My hoard buy probably should have been a gold or another vault.

Outplayed #2. When I realized that my Governors kind of supported his BM deck, it was already too late.

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Game 5 (A 51 - P 40): A really tense game! The likely-dominant hamlet/wharf/conspirator engine was complicated by the presence of possession and vineyards. My early quarry gave me a big lead on engine-building, but Psyduck countered with a very early possession. A good bit of back-and-forth followed, until turn 15 when Psyduck was one buy short of piling out the great halls for the win on my possessed turn! I don't know if I've ever been more nervous in a dominion game. I was so rattled that I missed my own ability to three-pile while ahead on my own turn... But fortunately for me Psyduck got a subpar turn and couldn't take the lead, and I could end it on turn 16.

Yeah, that game was really exciting. I was fairly happy with my early Possession and felt I was on the right track. Then I stopped thinking. Play a Hamlet .. discard a card .. gain an action .. play a Wharf .. a nice there's a Possession, but also a Wharf .. I'm gonna play the Wharf first to get more cards, then Possession .. playing the Wharf .. clicking on Possession .. nothing happens .. clicking again .. looking at the action counter .. 0 .. *sigh*. That happened in turn 13. In turn 15 I could play Possession again, and then tried to end it on piles by buying Great Halls. Well, I left one, and had basically lost then. Feels like being an absolute noob, and that's indeed not so much from the truth. ;) But I learned a lot from these games!

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Psyduck was a wonderful opponent, and I think we both learned a lot from the match. Thanks for the great games!

The same to you, hope to play against you soon again.

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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2012, 08:45:29 pm »
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Dekryr beats Forge!!! 4-1 We played random sets, no point counter, no identical starting hands.

Game 1: Dekryr 38 Forge!!! 33 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/14/game-20121214-164910-a4732351.html

Pretty clear vineyards game here with alchemist and apothecary. Also, Horse Traders is a solid card here. I open silver, potion wanting alchemists and horse traders. We split vineyards but my alchemists help me get a province and duchy to win. Neither of us had ever played a vineyards game before, so this was interesting for both of us.

Game 2: Forge!!! 48 Dekryr 21 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/14/game-20121214-165718-4adb8452.html

Forge!!! gets the 5-2 to my 4-3 and he has first position. I try for Council Room BM with Bank, but I don't play this right, Venture is not better than silver here cause it can make me miss Council Room.  His engine type strategy is better anyway and he outplays me for the decisive victory.

Game 3: Dekryr 56 Forge!!! 45 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/14/game-20121214-170648-27b806bf.html

Interesting board here with FG, alt VP in silk roads and harem with expand. He doesn't challenge me for the FG and I smuggle some Farming villages from him which smooths out my deck a bit. I'm basically going Fool's Gold BM here and an expand helps  me even the silk road split. Then I try to grab estates as the 3rd pile but pick up bigger VP when available.

Game 4: Dekryr 57 Forge!!! 41 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/14/game-20121214-171505-02170373.html

More green cards here in the form of tunnel and island. Margrave is the only attack but we both avoid it with tunnels out there. This could be a mistake and he picks one up late. HT and Harvest are tunnel enablers as well as. He opens HT/tunnel to my HT/silver. I think this is closer than the score looks. He has 4 labs and more gold than me at the end. I lose the tunnel split but make up for it with islands. I think my opening silver helps my economy earlier than his tunnel opening and I probably got better shuffle luck here.

Game 5: Dekryr 48 Forge!!! 32 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/14/game-20121214-172320-ddae499f.html

Another fool's gold game and I get a 5-2 here allowing me to open FG margrave. I basically run a Margrave BM deck with FG as my primary buying power. Again he doesn't challenge for FG and I win the split 7-1. His Margrave also helps me line up my FGs better which allows me to stall out less in the end.

Thanks to Forge!!! for the games. He stayed up later than usual to accommodate my weird schedule. I appreciate it. My first tourney win, who's next?
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2012, 10:40:38 am »
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At this point I am the highest number left and we are re-seeding right? So, uh, has olneyce signed up for this shindig?

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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2012, 11:28:54 am »
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Thanks for the games Dekryr, were fun. I have to disagree with you on the second game, I think if you went for an engine you could have caught up, I kept having way more money than I was spending. To be fair though, in short Council Room games first player advantage is huge.
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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2012, 11:42:02 am »
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Thanks for the games Dekryr, were fun. I have to disagree with you on the second game, I think if you went for an engine you could have caught up, I kept having way more money than I was spending. To be fair though, in short Council Room games first player advantage is huge.

I completely agree. The engine is superior in this game. I probably did have a chance if I had gone engine from the start. I actually edited the post this morning when thinking about this game on my drive to work. You picked the better strategy here for sure.

Thanks for the games as well.
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« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2012, 06:47:01 pm »
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Tonks77 defeats bitwise 4-2

Game 1: bitwise 70 - Tonks77 82 --> 0:1
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-141503-b70695b3.html
Highway, Goons, Black Market, Fairgrounds, Expand. I have a 5-2-start and go mostly for highways and goons. I also buy an expand. hoping I could do some expand tricks after playing a few highways. Later I add black markets and fairgrounds. But somehow the content of the black market is not very interesting (mainly because there is no village in the "main" kingdom), so we both only get to 6-point-fairgrounds. I win due to 30 VP chips from goons.

Game 2: bitwise 15 - Tonks77 6 --> 1:1
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-142451-b443296f.htmlw
Chapel, Conspirator, Pearl Diver, Haggler and Workers Village make us both go for a conspirator engine.  With  his 3 hagglers bitwise can 3-pile quite early for the win.

Game 3: Tonks77 39 - bitwise 36 --> 1:2
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-143622-840ee83c.html
Native Village, Sea Hag, Caravan and Council Room. bitwise has a 5-2-start, which is quite unlucky, but I think his Native Villages often helped him to put away top-decked curses. I go more or less for Big Money, with some Caravan-Support and although I lose the curse split due to some bad shuffle luck I can aquire much more silver and gold than bitwise. Still the result is quite close.

Game 4: bitwise 18 - Tonks77 37 --> 1:3
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-144314-6cac4dd9.html
Fishing Village, Witch, Masquerade, Expand. I manage to buy a witch in T4 while bitwise is a bit unlucky and does not get >4 before T5 (and buys a gold then). He can buy his witch only in T7 after his 3rd reshuffle, when I already have my 2nd witch. My early expand helps to turn copper and curses into Fishing villages,  estates into treasuries and 5$-cards into provinces. Guess I was quite lucky in this one.

Game 5: bitwise 57 - Tonks77 47 --> 2:3
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-145150-066f560a.html
Duke, Silk Road, Horse Traders and Governor. We both want to go for dukes and silk roads. In turn 7 I buy a duke instead of a duchy due to a misclick. This causes me to lose the duchy split 3-5 and seals my defeat.

Game 6: Tonks77 41 - bitwise 26 --> 2:4
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-150700-365ea99f.html
Apothecary, Familiar, Mountebank, Trading Post. While bitwise buys a potion for familiar in the opening, I buy Mining Village and Silver, to increase odds to get a curser before the 2nd reshuffle. Later I get another mountebank and also a familiar. Trading post is a nice trasher. Later Develop helps to get golds and more mining villages from them.

Thanks to bitwise for these very interesting games.
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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2012, 10:45:28 pm »
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At this point I am the highest number left and we are re-seeding right? So, uh, has olneyce signed up for this shindig?

 ;)

Nope... If you want to take on a 1 seed, you'll have to nag them about signing up...
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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2012, 07:50:42 am »
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I just lost my 2nd round match and want to sign up for this, but I can't find out where to do that.
Is it enough I just write it here?
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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2012, 11:48:50 am »
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Moomi - 4:1 - hongrich
Not the best games I've played, but it was enough this time.
NB! Game 3 was my favorite.

Game 1 35-30
 I went for straight jester attacks, but it didn't worked as well I was hoping. Hongrich went lil too soon for provinces and remodeling helped me out. Could have been otherwise.
1-0

Game 2 28-26
Possession game. I hoped to get more cards for gardens and philosopher stones, but developes was the key for this close victory.
2-0

Game 3 8-26
Really crazy game of doomed kingdom. 27-turn game of endless pirateeing, saboteuring, embargoing with throne rooms... When pirates can refresh em in ya inn, noone stop em. Should be fun to rematch it.
2-1

Game 4 51-48
Big money game with trade routes and hoards. Got 7VP dukes - victory.
3-1

Game 5 23-19
Another possesion game. Actually I'm suprised to win that, i had certainly a weaker game plan.
4-1

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« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2012, 04:36:52 pm »
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loppo wins over KC-KC-Scout-Scout-Scout 4-3-1.

loppo 30
KC resigned
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-121035-7f18387a.html

I had a brain fart and though I could skip chapel. Turn 3 I realized my mistake then I resigned after way too many GS against me.

KC 19
loppo 9
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-122413-54d08ea4.html

I went for early Monument since it didn't look to be a high scoring game with Mountebank on. We raced for Mountebank first, then Minions, then duchies. I won despite never playing my Plat because of Loans.

loppo 26
KC 20
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/15/game-20121215-123119-a8dca627.html

I don't remember that game.

KC 43
loppo 34
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/16/game-20121216-123450-f40a932d.html

I think I get luckier with my Rabbles and Venture helps clear the crap on top of my deck.

KC 31
loppo 28
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/16/game-20121216-123908-5398e0f2.html

I didn't see the Coppersmith/KC combo soon enough but with only pawn for extra buy it didn't matter much. I managed to remodel enough to squeeze out the win.

loppo 68
KC 27
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/16/game-20121216-125252-0b4f615e.html

I ignore Scrying Pool/Bridge engine. I lost badly.

loppo 34
KC 34

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/16/game-20121216-125943-547c2a71.html

Standard BM Envoy game. Tie game for the ultimate match. It doesn't get more intense than that.

loppo 49
KC 36
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201212/16/game-20121216-130700-98ffc71b.html

Another BM game for finale. I didn't went for smuggler and allowed him to smuggle my first Embassy. That was it.


Overall the series was very close although loppo had 2 easy blowouts. First player always won except in the 5th game.

I had much more fun playing in the tournament than against randoms.

Good luck to loppo for his next games.
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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2012, 06:17:36 pm »
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Masticore wins our set because I had to forfeit. We've both had really busy schedules but we managed to set up a time that worked for both of us. Unfortunately things took longer than I expected/new things came up that caused me to miss our scheduled time. We've PMed a bit back and forth trying to set something up but I think he's pretty much unavailable now. Since I missed our meeting time, it's only right for me to forfeit.

I suppose there's a remote possibility that something will change but he's going on vacation today so I doubt it! Good luck in future rounds, Masticore.
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