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[Jorbles]

But I mean, who didn't think it was hilarious that there was an unlynchable scum (Jorbles) and an unnightkillable town (Arch)?!

But eHalcyon, we spent a lot of time working on these roles, I urge you to reread them.  There were a great many avenues for success for town.  There was a lot of ways for town to get in some killing, and a lot of ways for town to get a lot of information.

Question:  Was anyone confused by the Night 2 flip on Jorbles having him written as the wrong traitor (I think I wrote him initially as TRAITOR but edited it very quickly)?

I wasn't totally unlynchable. I could only use my power every other day. I wish I had gotten the chance to use it though.

(I didn't even notice that flip. Guess I saw it too late.)

[Insomniac]

I too didn't see the original flip

[shraeye]

Ash COULD have found the fact there were to scum teams. Although I don't know how it would have reacted to me, was I both blue and yellow?

Yup, you were both blue AND yellow.

Now knowing the full setup, I have to say that the setup was heavily skewed against town and FOR Insomniac in a very unfair but not entirely obvious manner.

It was biased towards scum and Insom I think, but I don't think it was an overwhelming bias.  Hard to assess, some of this stuff.

I will never go off script again. I was face palming so hard.

I found it amusing

Agreed. Anyways maybe it was imba because scum won but I mean looking over the town roles town had a lot lot lot of power. More so I think than any rmm game to date and I don't know how much that mitigates

Yup, thinking about some roles by themselves, I was like "dear god, that won't work!"  But there were enough "oh wow" powers on both sides, that I thought both sides started with at least a medium-chance.

[ashersky]

Do the mods have insight into Tables's lie about tracking me?  Or did he get some odd result from you all?

[Jorbles]

Do the mods have insight into Tables's lie about tracking me?  Or did he get some odd result from you all?

There's a note on that somewhere in the mod thread. Apparently he just misremembered something.

[Archetype]

I still can't believe you guys lynched me. It was so obvious Insom was scum when he started going after me.

Still dont know why people thought Insom was clear.

[TheMunch]

Do the mods have insight into Tables's lie about tracking me?  Or did he get some odd result from you all?

There's a note on that somewhere in the mod thread. Apparently he just misremembered something.

This.

[ashersky]

Do the mods have insight into Tables's lie about tracking me?  Or did he get some odd result from you all?

There's a note on that somewhere in the mod thread. Apparently he just misremembered something.

Oh.  If I was alive, man I would have slammed him for it.  I guess he would have checked his PMs, then, though.

[shraeye]

I was just thinking about the most powerful pro-town combo.  Jimmmm/Archetype would have been super potent.  Jimmm can ensure that Archetype is never up for vote and is unkillable, Jimmm's doublevote/dayvig could have wrecked scum, even at the end.

[Archetype]

I was just thinking about the most powerful pro-town combo.  Jimmmm/Archetype would have been super potent.  Jimmm can ensure that Archetype is never up for vote and is unkillable, Jimmm's doublevote/dayvig could have wrecked scum, even at the end.

I do regret voting him. Big mistake.

[Insomniac]

I still can't believe you guys lynched me. It was so obvious Insom was scum when he started going after me.

Still dont know why people thought Insom was clear.

Man this just isn't true. I would have voted you if I was town there too. I'll explain why.

1) We know Galzria shoots people that target him
2) For whatever reason town believed there was exactly 1 scum left
3) We thought that Galz could force a stalemate.
4) You wanted to be evolved anyways
5) Your evolution if scum would have allowed you to kill Galzria without any downside.

Occam's Razor said you were scum trying to get into the one scenario that could cause your team to win.

[Archetype]

If I were scum, I could have still killed him, the PGO kill bouncing off of me.

[ashersky]

Shraeye, you are clearly around.  Go back to MXVIII.

[Insomniac]

AS SCUM though we were under the impression that his role was this.

Galz Ability: You may kill someone targetting you. If you do this happens before whatever night action they do so their night action doesn't happen.


IE the role resolution order was

GALZ
Everybody else as normal.

[Archetype]

If I knew that his power goes through mine, then why would I want to evolve?

[Insomniac]

If I knew that his power goes through mine, then why would I want to evolve?

...It wouldn't if you were bulletproof like you were if you evolved.

[shraeye]

For ashersky:

Here is the offending PM, exactly as it was sent to Tables, who tracked you night 1.

Your target, Mew (ashersky), didn't visit anybody during the night.

You'll have to ask Tables why he said something else in thread, but my "easy explanations are easy" response is that he inaccurately recalled what it said.

Oddly enough, Tables only saw somebody visit someone else once, when he was redirected to jotheonah on that fateful night where joth targeted Insomniac (a pretty clever play, which somehow still cleared Insomniac after joth told plans what were what.)

[ashersky]

For ashersky:

Here is the offending PM, exactly as it was sent to Tables, who tracked you night 1.

Your target, Mew (ashersky), didn't visit anybody during the night.

You'll have to ask Tables why he said something else in thread, but my "easy explanations are easy" response is that he inaccurately recalled what it said.

Oddly enough, Tables only saw somebody visit someone else once, when he was redirected to jotheonah on that fateful night where joth targeted Insomniac (a pretty clever play, which somehow still cleared Insomniac after joth told plans what were what.)

Thanks.  So it was just a misremembering thing, I guess.  Or maybe Tables had a clever reason for it, like trying to catch someone out in a lie.

[Archetype]

Galz Ability: You may kill someone targetting you. If you do this happens before whatever night action they do so their night action doesn't happen.


IE the role resolution order was

GALZ
Everybody else as normal.

Galz's power would occur first,going past my Bulletproof, and killing me.

IF I was Winvoted, I would be Doctored. BUT I said I didnt really want to nbe winvoted. I just needed the experience.

But actually, I didn't need the experience. Scum wouldn't target me anyway.

[Insomniac]

Galz Ability: You may kill someone targetting you. If you do this happens before whatever night action they do so their night action doesn't happen.


IE the role resolution order was

GALZ
Everybody else as normal.

Galz's power would occur first,going past my Bulletproof, and killing me.

IF I was Winvoted, I would be Doctored. BUT I said I didnt really want to nbe winvoted. I just needed the experience.

But actually, I didn't need the experience. Scum wouldn't target me anyway.

We had no idea what your ability was. I would have thought as town that you were trying to become bulletproof to shoot Galz and if you got that through a trickle effect of lynches NK's it would have been bad. because bulletproof is passive so galz wouldn't stop you because he wouldn't kill you

[Archetype]

So if you were one a single scumteam, and I was on the other, you would still think that me killing Galz would prevent him from killing me.

[Insomniac]

So if you were one a single scumteam, and I was on the other, you would still think that me killing Galz would prevent him from killing me.

if you were bulletproof yes.

[Archetype]

So if you were one a single scumteam, and I was on the other, you would still think that me killing Galz would prevent him from killing me.

if you were bulletproof yes.

Well what's done is done. I should have pushed a lynch on you harder, and I didn't, which was my mistake. I've never been good at persuasion. I could tell your claim was fake, thought you were acting scummy, and thought the 'auto-clear' on you was strange.

But good job, and neat role. A bit OP, but the majority of the powers were anyway.

[Dsell]

But good job, and neat role. A bit OP, but the majority of the powers were anyway.

lol not mine. I didn't use it N2 or N3.

[Insomniac]

But good job, and neat role. A bit OP, but the majority of the powers were anyway.

lol not mine. I didn't use it N2 or N3.

I thought you had the weakest of town roles but it's still like pseudo vig.