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[jotheonah]

The title, while hilarious, is actually a lie: the game will have very few voting shenanigans.

The setup will be closed, bastardly, and bizarre.

The game will start in 24 hours with however many people are signed up.

In:
1. ashersky
2. Captain Frisk
3. Galzria
4. Robz
5. Voltgloss
6. Eevee - LOOK I DIDN"T FORGET YOU
7. shraeye
8. Archetype
9. Cuzz
10. Glooble
11. cayvie

Standard mafia rules apply.

[ashersky]

in

[Captain_Frisk]

In

[Galzria]

I claim Greg Proops.

And since this game is a Bastard game, I'm editing my post, and there's nothing you can do about it. HA!

Edit: in

[jotheonah]

Once the game starts, all the standard rules will apply, FYI.

[Robz888]

In.

[Galzria]

Once the game starts, all the standard rules will apply, FYI.

This is a known lie.

[Voltgloss]

I made this before.  It bears repeating.



/in

[Eevee]

in ldo

[Voltgloss]

The title, while hilarious, is actually a lie: the game will have very few voting shenanigans.

very few != none

ergo, there WILL be voting shenanigans

[shraeye]

/in.  And I'm already voting Voltgloss, for trying to use logic.

[Archetype]

/in

bring on the crazy!

[jotheonah]

I might cut this off if it hits 17. Wasn't expecting this much interest with this many games going.

[Cuzz]

/in against my better judgment

[Glooble]

With a mysterious open like that?

I'm in.

[Eevee]

I'm glad I wasn't forgotten this time.

[Ozle]

Vote : No lynx

[cayvie]

maaaan i can't turn this down after BMV

/in

[jotheonah]

this is more along the lines of BMs I - IV than BMV

[cayvie]

/out then, i guess

[jotheonah]

I think you should play anyway, for the record. But if not, the position of Troll is open.

I just finished writing the PMs and finalizing the setup. 16 more hours to sign up.

[Galzria]

I think you should play anyway, for the record. But if not, the position of Troll is open.

I just finished writing the PMs and finalizing the setup. 16 more hours to sign up.

Why has this not started yet? 16 hours is close enough to 24. Fail mod. I want my PM. Startstartstart.

[Captain_Frisk]

I think you should play anyway, for the record. But if not, the position of Troll is open.

I just finished writing the PMs and finalizing the setup. 16 more hours to sign up.

Why has this not started yet? 16 hours is close enough to 24. Fail mod. I want my PM. Startstartstart.

Thanks for filling in for me on the weekend.

[cayvie]

alright fine i'll try another true bastard game

/in

[Galzria]

I think you should play anyway, for the record. But if not, the position of Troll is open.

I just finished writing the PMs and finalizing the setup. 16 more hours to sign up.

Why has this not started yet? 16 hours is close enough to 24. Fail mod. I want my PM. Startstartstart.

Thanks for filling in for me on the weekend.

I knew it had been missing something. Took me a few minutes to realize what though. Figured I'd give you a hand - I knew you were slight v/la, and I'd hate for a mod (especially in a Bastard game) to get an easy pass.

[Ozle]

I'd need to know the details before i sign up, some bastard ones are hard work than the usual ones!

[jotheonah]

too late Ozle, PMs going out shortly. Need to rejigger the setup for this # of people.

[jotheonah]

PMs are out. Please confirm in thread.

[Eevee]

Confirmed.

[Voltgloss]

Confirmed.

[Robz888]

Confirmed.

[Galzria]

Con-fir-med.

[Cuzz]

confirmed

[Ozle]

too late Ozle, PMs going out shortly. Need to rejigger the setup for this # of people.

But I was within 24 hours by about 30 mins!

Heh, no worries though

[jotheonah]

you posted in time, but you didn't say /in! Also, not like I was going to tell you any more about the setup than anyone else.

[Ozle]

you posted in time, but you didn't say /in! Also, not like I was going to tell you any more about the setup than anyone else.

Fair enough

[jotheonah]

5 confirmations down, 6 to go!

[Archetype]

Confirmed!

[ashersky]

Confirmed!

[Glooble]

Confirm!

[jotheonah]

PMs are out. Please confirm in thread.

[Glooble]

Yeah, I saw your message before I saw that post.

[shraeye]

confirmed, totally missed the inthread bit.

[jotheonah]

That just leaves cayvie and Frisk. But you know what, I'm going to be out all evening, so I'm gonna start the game now.

Welcome to Mafia! Most of you are townspeople, some of you are scum! Find the scum and lynch them!

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

DAY 1 BEGINS.

[Cuzz]

Chicken

[shraeye]

Vote: shraeye

[Cuzz]

Oh dear, what am I doing. Vote: Robz. Sorry that took so long.

[Galzria]

Stu-mp.

[ashersky]

zboR :etoV

[Eevee]

sup dawgs

[Eevee]

Vote: shraeye Not purely RVS, 90% so though.

[Cuzz]

Vote: shraeye Not purely RVS, 90% so though.

Haha, how do you figure that? Are we trying to make RVS shorter and shorter each game? Some of us like RVS, what with the totally unjustified votes for Robz and all.

Vote: Robz

[ashersky]

Unvote.

So we're going to RVS this all the way through?  Any way we can beat the mod at his own game?

[Robz888]

Unvote.

So we're going to RVS this all the way through?  Any way we can beat the mod at his own game?

We could try. Vote: Jotheonah

[Eevee]

In these games, the best way to survive is to post as little as possible and be as uncontroversial as possible. Shraeye did both by just voting for himself (wont piss anyone off at least). Obviously guys like Frisk or cayvie haven't posted yet but they haven't been online either so.

Seriously, mark my words that's how scum wants to play these jokey kind of games. Just like in IRL mafia, everyone is so ridiculously triggerhappy.

[ashersky]

vote: jotheonah

[Eevee]

Unvote.

So we're going to RVS this all the way through?  Any way we can beat the mod at his own game?

Yeah, I don't know how anyone could enjoy RVS.. Thus far we have nothing that would suggest this game couldn't be played normally, we just got to expect some paranormal mechanics. At least my role suggests this game can be played as a normal mafia game.

[shraeye]

In these games, the best way to survive is to post as little as possible and be as uncontroversial as possible. Shraeye did both by just voting for himself (wont piss anyone off at least). Obviously guys like Frisk or cayvie haven't posted yet but they haven't been online either so.

Seriously, mark my words that's how scum wants to play these jokey kind of games. Just like in IRL mafia, everyone is so ridiculously triggerhappy.

Too much logic.

Vote: Eevee

This is 92% RVS

[Voltgloss]

Vote: Eevee for advising scum.

[Eevee]

Vote: Eevee for advising scum.

It was advising town, not advising scum? If I wanted to advise scum, I probably would have done it privately rather than saying out loud? I wanted to warn townies into falling into the usual trap of these games.

[Eevee]

But what do you know, posting stuff makes people vote for you. Who would have guessed!

[Voltgloss]

Vote: Eevee for advising scum.

It was advising town, not advising scum? If I wanted to advise scum, I probably would have done it privately rather than saying out loud? I wanted to warn townies into falling into the usual trap of these games.

jo started the game early.  I'm wondering if you missed the chance to say something you wanted to say in your scum QT.

[Eevee]

Vote: Eevee for advising scum.

It was advising town, not advising scum? If I wanted to advise scum, I probably would have done it privately rather than saying out loud? I wanted to warn townies into falling into the usual trap of these games.

jo started the game early.  I'm wondering if you missed the chance to say something you wanted to say in your scum QT.

I was hoping pointing that out would result in smarter town play but sure.

[Glooble]

vote: ashersky

Trying to lynch the mod is also uncontroversial.

Eevee, way to set a record for outing yourself as a power role on page one.

[Eevee]

vote: ashersky

Trying to lynch the mod is also uncontroversial.

Eevee, way to set a record for outing yourself as a power role on page one.

So you consider VT a bastard role?

[ashersky]

vote: ashersky

Trying to lynch the mod is also uncontroversial.

Eevee, way to set a record for outing yourself as a power role on page one.

Vote: Glooble

Missing that Robz started it is...something?

[Galzria]

vote: ashersky

Trying to lynch the mod is also uncontroversial.

Eevee, way to set a record for outing yourself as a power role on page one.

Vote: Glooble

Missing that Robz started it is...something?

I claim scum. Can I do that? I wanna start a new trend. Scum just claim, we lynch them, and town wins.

[Voltgloss]

obvJester

[cayvie]

/confirmed

what

[Galzria]

obvJester

Jesters wouldn't claim scum, they would just act scummy. Not Jester. Promise.

[Robz888]

Vote: Galzria

[Eevee]

obvJester

Jesters wouldn't claim scum, they would just act scummy. Not Jester. Promise.

PINL?

[Galzria]

Vote: Galzria

Bussing me already? Usually you want to join the wagon late, not start it.

[Archetype]

G'day sirs (and cayvie) can I start off this party with a Vote: Eevee

Pardon me, but I must get revenge on him from RMM3.

Tally ho!

[Eevee]

I truly am sorry about that, but we mustn't discuss that game when it's still ongoing. Apologizing for the vote makes it seem like you have something to hide, Vote: archetype

[jotheonah]

Guys now I have to do a heckuva vote count.

[Robz888]

Vote: Votecount

[Eevee]

I would vote for count but I'd rather still have my vote on the guy it's on now and I don't remember who it was so.

[Eevee]

I would vote for count but I'd rather still have my vote on the guy it's on now and I don't remember who it was so.

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But I'm sure he was very scummy.

[Eevee]

I would vote for count but I'd rather still have my vote on the guy it's on now and I don't remember who it was so.

But I'm sure he was very scummy.

Pretty sure at least.

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.1

Archetype (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Cuzz
Galzria (1): Robz888
Eevee (3): shraeye, Voltgloss, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Glooble (1): ashersky

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[Eevee]

So just to remind everyone, the guy with most votes on himself is indeed the only guy who has made any attempts in analyzing the setup or other players.

These games need a LaL policy, I was going to say I would apply one throughout day 1 but then I realized it would just make everything too easy for scum so no. Still, seriously guys!!

[Robz888]

Ehh, Vote: Eevee

[Eevee]

Care to elaborate? L-2, should I claim before someone derps?

[Galzria]

Mmmm... Derp?

[jotheonah]

If anyone would like to participate in a Speccy QT, PM me. We'll play "Guess the Setup!"

[Eevee]

Mmmm... Derp?

Galzria, what's your impression of me? I wish someone came in and stopped this madness. I'm scared of going to sleep because I fear I might not wake up.

[Galzria]

Mmmm... Derp?

Galzria, what's your impression of me? I wish someone came in and stopped this madness. I'm scared of going to sleep because I fear I might not wake up.

I already claimed scum, and Robz was bussing me before he switched to you. I don't know if you're scum too, but I doubt it. The question isn't if you're scum, it's how many scum should be on your wagon.

[Eevee]

Mmmm... Derp?

Galzria, what's your impression of me? I wish someone came in and stopped this madness. I'm scared of going to sleep because I fear I might not wake up.

I already claimed scum, and Robz was bussing me before he switched to you. I don't know if you're scum too, but I doubt it. The question isn't if you're scum, it's how many scum should be on your wagon.

Do you have any suggestions as to how to get them to vote for someone else then? As I said, I feel unease and fear that if I close my eyes, they might never open again.

[Galzria]

Mmmm... Derp?

Galzria, what's your impression of me? I wish someone came in and stopped this madness. I'm scared of going to sleep because I fear I might not wake up.

I already claimed scum, and Robz was bussing me before he switched to you. I don't know if you're scum too, but I doubt it. The question isn't if you're scum, it's how many scum should be on your wagon.

Do you have any suggestions as to how to get them to vote for someone else then? As I said, I feel unease and fear that if I close my eyes, they might never open again.

Well, you could try lynching me or scumbuddy Robz. I don't know if you'll get others to vote with you though. Cuzz has good case on Robz though.

[Galzria]

I mean, Eevee is probably town guys... You shouldn't lynch him.

[Eevee]

I mean, Eevee is probably town guys... You shouldn't lynch him.

And with that, I'm off to sleeps. If anyone hammers me during the next 10 hours, I strongly suggest you lynch him tomorrow without much discussion after I flip town.

[ashersky]

vote: speccy QT

[cayvie]

If anyone would like to participate in a Speccy QT, PM me. We'll play "Guess the Setup!"

hmm, wonder if it's guessable

jo said that this game would be more like BMs 1 thru 4 than BMV. 1-4 all had a gimmick (all SKs, all Jesters, etc). BMV was more like a regular role madness game--a bunch of crazy roles with no particular theme.

i can't decide if something's actually up with galzria or if he's just doing his "I'm not taking anything seriously except actually I am" dance.

[Voltgloss]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

[Cuzz]

Eevee is posting like 5 times as much as anyone else. Clearly desperately trying to avoid getting hit with lynch-all-lurkers policy. Classic scum move and way over the top.

Glooble has only one post since unlock. Lurking hard. My two biggest scumreads by far.

Tough call, who to vote for, who to vote for......

Vote: Robz

[ashersky]

vote: Cuzz for pointing out scum plays.  Also for giving his two biggest scum reads and then voting Robz for no reason (although Galz says he's bussing).

[Cuzz]

vote: Cuzz for pointing out scum plays.  Also for giving his two biggest scum reads and then voting Robz for no reason (although Galz says he's bussing).

I wrote a script that just tacks that on the end of all my posts. Much more efficient this way.

Vote: Robz

[Voltgloss]

vote: Cuzz for pointing out scum plays.  Also for giving his two biggest scum reads and then voting Robz for no reason (although Galz says he's bussing).

I wrote a script that just tacks that on the end of all my posts. Much more efficient this way.

Vote: Robz

+50,000

[Eevee]

Eevee is posting like 5 times as much as anyone else. Clearly desperately trying to avoid getting hit with lynch-all-lurkers policy. Classic scum move and way over the top.

Glooble has only one post since unlock. Lurking hard. My two biggest scumreads by far.

Tough call, who to vote for, who to vote for......

Vote: Robz

Anyone interested in a Cuzz lynch?
I'll Vote: Glooble first actually, since his lurking is even more incriminating.

[Robz888]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

[Voltgloss]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

[Robz888]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

And I can OMGUS you with impunity! Vote: Voltgloss

[Cuzz]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

And I can OMGUS you with impunity! Vote: Voltgloss

Man Robz looks bad here. My new biggest scumread. I'll Vote: Robz.

Vote: Robz

[Robz888]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

And I can OMGUS you with impunity! Vote: Voltgloss

Man Robz looks bad here. My new biggest scumread. I'll Vote: Robz.

Vote: Robz

IT'S BASTARD MAFIA.

Vote: Cuzz, for not getting it.

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.2

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (2): Cuzz, Voltgloss
Eevee (2): shraeye, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.2

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Cuzz, Voltgloss
Eevee (2): shraeye, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Does Cuzz or Voltgloss have a vote that doesn't count?

[Eevee]

Vote Count 1.2

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Cuzz, Voltgloss
Eevee (2): shraeye, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Does Cuzz or Voltgloss have a vote that doesn't count?

I sure hope so with the way they are playing.

[jotheonah]

Sorry, mistake.

[Cuzz]

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

And I can OMGUS you with impunity! Vote: Voltgloss

Man Robz looks bad here. My new biggest scumread. I'll Vote: Robz.

Vote: Robz

IT'S BASTARD MAFIA.

Vote: Cuzz, for not getting it.

Oh I get it. Not sure if you do though.

I'm getting fed up with this game. So fed up I'd like to singlehandedly end it now without any further input from the rest of the town.

Vote: theorel. That should do it.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.2

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Cuzz, Voltgloss
Eevee (2): shraeye, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Does Cuzz or Voltgloss have a vote that doesn't count?

I sure hope so with the way they are playing.

Zing! I like it. I want to keep Eevee around now.

[Voltgloss]

Vote Count 1.2

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Cuzz, Voltgloss
Eevee (2): shraeye, Archetype
ashersky (1): Glooble
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Captain Frisk, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Does Cuzz or Voltgloss have a vote that doesn't count?

I sure hope so with the way they are playing.

Zing! I like it. I want to keep Eevee around now.

What's wrong with the way I'm playing?

(this question is for Eevee because Robz won't answer)

[Eevee]

Iirc you made the original case against me for "advising my scumbuddies." It was truly a terrible case, and you should know those tend to stick around day 1 in BM games and cause mislynches. Oh and the joke works better that way.

[Glooble]

Lurking implies I've had access to a computer since I made that post. I have not.

I'm getting a smartphone soon, and that will help a little, but I still can't ever read or post while I'm at work, unless I were to spontaneously and unexpectedly get an office job.

Anyway, RVS seems to be drawing to a close. I think I'm going to Vote: Galzria. Why? Well, it's a big old WIFOM. Galz says "I'm scum, vote for me." Now if he was really scum, he wouldn't do that because he wouldn't want to be lynched. But if he's town, he wouldn't say that because he doesn't want us to lynch a townie. He could be a Jester, but I think Galz would play Jester with a little more subtlety.

Alternate possibility: He's just not taking this game seriously at all. In such a case, scum or town, he's not a bad lynch.
Alternate possibility: He has some town power that only activates if he gets lynched.
Alternate possibility: He's scum trying to much things up and sew confusion.
Or he could be town trying to bait scum.

Ok, so I have no idea what's going on with Galz. Which is weird! I usually look to Galz to be a voice of reason and sanity. So for shaking the foundations of my f.ds mafia world, he gets my vote.

[Cuzz]

Wait, are we supposed to be taking this game seriously?

[Eevee]

Wait, are we supposed to be taking this game seriously?

As I said earlier, nothing yet suggests to me we shouldn't.

[Cuzz]

Wait, are we supposed to be taking this game seriously?

As I said earlier, nothing yet suggests to me we shouldn't.

Ok, ok. I was going based off this quote from joth in the queue thread:

I think the bastard games should be more spontaneous and fun, like the first four were. A way to get your sillies out while the more serious games are ongoing.

But if you insist, I can chill out and play for reals.

Vote: Robz

[Robz888]

Wait, are we supposed to be taking this game seriously?

As I said earlier, nothing yet suggests to me we shouldn't.

Ok, ok. I was going based off this quote from joth in the queue thread:

I think the bastard games should be more spontaneous and fun, like the first four were. A way to get your sillies out while the more serious games are ongoing.

But if you insist, I can chill out and play for reals.

Vote: Robz

No, play for random bastard fun.

[Captain_Frisk]

Voting RobZ is playing for random bastard fun.

Vote: RobZ

I haven't even read anything other than the last 2 posts!

[Eevee]

Oh I don't mean to tell others how to play this game, be silly all you want if that's more fun to you. I personally find at least trying to win and play seriously more enjoyable, but people are obviously different.

[Ozle]

This thread needs more ZOIDBERG!

WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!

[Cuzz]

This thread needs more ZOIDBERG!

WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!

(V) (;,,;) (V)

[cayvie]

man, i don't get the appeal of bastard mafia, apparently.

Oh I don't mean to tell others how to play this game, be silly all you want if that's more fun to you. I personally find at least trying to win and play seriously more enjoyable, but people are obviously different.

yes, thank you

[Robz888]

This thread needs more ZOIDBERG!

WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!

Woah, is Ozle playing? Can we kill him? Vote: Ozle

[Ozle]

This thread needs more ZOIDBERG!

WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!

Woah, is Ozle playing? Can we kill him? Vote: Ozle

Nope, just got back from the pub and thought this thread needed some more Zoidberg

[Insomniac]

[jotheonah]

If you're posting this thread and you're not on the player list, pick a color. And keep it short and funny.

[Archetype]

Lurking implies I've had access to a computer since I made that post. I have not.

I'm getting a smartphone soon, and that will help a little, but I still can't ever read or post while I'm at work, unless I were to spontaneously and unexpectedly get an office job.

Anyway, RVS seems to be drawing to a close. I think I'm going to Vote: Galzria. Why? Well, it's a big old WIFOM. Galz says "I'm scum, vote for me." Now if he was really scum, he wouldn't do that because he wouldn't want to be lynched. But if he's town, he wouldn't say that because he doesn't want us to lynch a townie. He could be a Jester, but I think Galz would play Jester with a little more subtlety.

Alternate possibility: He's just not taking this game seriously at all. In such a case, scum or town, he's not a bad lynch.
Alternate possibility: He has some town power that only activates if he gets lynched.
Alternate possibility: He's scum trying to much things up and sew confusion.
Or he could be town trying to bait scum.

Ok, so I have no idea what's going on with Galz. Which is weird! I usually look to Galz to be a voice of reason and sanity. So for shaking the foundations of my f.ds mafia world, he gets my vote.

Well sweet diggity dang! That is one con-vinc-ing post! Vote: Galzria

[Ozle]

If you're posting this thread and you're not on the player list, pick a color. And keep it short and funny.

Sir Yes Sir!

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.3

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (3): Cuzz, Voltgloss, Captain_Frisk
Eevee (1): shraeye
Galzria (2): Glooble, Archetype
Cuzz (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not voting: cayvie, Galzria

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

I'm not weighing in on how seriously y'all should take the game.

[Robz888]

Vote: Galzria

Whatever I am doing that makes me a prime target day 1, I wish I knew what it was. And then I could stop doing that!

[Cuzz]

Vote: Galzria

Whatever I am doing that makes me a prime target day 1, I wish I knew what it was. And then I could stop doing that!

I think no one will ever feel bad about lynching you D1 because you will still have 9 simultaneous other games to keep you happy.

In my case, though, there's this:

If you turn this into me v. you and it's ends up that Grujah (WHO HAS POSTED BARELY 50 TIMES ALL GAME) is scum I'm gonna be so pissed.

(When are you gonna let MXII go, Cuzz? Soonish, I promise.  )

[cayvie]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

[Robz888]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

Neither am I, that was so bad for us ultimately!

[Eevee]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

me neither.

[Galzria]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

me neither.

Can I join in? I'm not over whatever that is either.

[Robz888]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

me neither.

Can I join in? I'm not over whatever that is either.

It was the first thing that made us lose M-XII. The second thing was Frisk clearing Grujah. The third thing was nothing, those were the only two things.

[jotheonah]

False. The third thing was the massclaim. The massclaim was terrible.

[Eevee]

Nah, it was clearly just having the wrong players alive at the endgame.

[Eevee]

Nah, it was clearly just having the wrong players alive at the endgame.

Wrong townies if I may correct myself.

[ashersky]

i'm still not over ashersky shooting me n1

me neither.

Can I join in? I'm not over whatever that is either.

It was the first thing that made us lose M-XII. The second thing was Frisk clearing Grujah. The third thing was nothing, those were the only two things.

Not my fault that Cayvie read scummy that game, and set up the hammer.  We still have to agree to disagree whether a vig should shoot or not.  I still contend a vig who doesn't shoot is a waste of a PR, since he's basically just a VT.

[ashersky]

Nah, it was clearly just having the wrong players alive at the endgame.

Clearly I should have shot Robz.

[ashersky]

False. The third thing was the massclaim. The massclaim was terrible.

The fourth was Eevee hiding behind me, and whoever decided to announce hiding targets.

[Eevee]

False. The third thing was the massclaim. The massclaim was terrible.

The fourth was Eevee hiding behind me, and whoever decided to announce hiding targets.

O HAMMERING BEFORE EVERYONE HAD ANNOUNCED THEIR TARGETS RATHER.

[jotheonah]

Can we maybe play this game?

[Cuzz]

Can we maybe play this game?

There's still so much healing to be done.

[Eevee]

Can we maybe play this game?

Is there a mistake in the last votecount? Referring to me having 2 votes despite only shraeye being listed.

[Voltgloss]

Whatever I am doing that makes me a prime target day 1, I wish I knew what it was. And then I could stop doing that!

I could tell you, but I don't have to.  Same as you don't have to answer my questions.

[Glooble]

That sure was a lot of talking about a game that isn't this one.

This is a quick post to say I'm gonna be V/LA until tomorrow around 4.

[Galzria]

I'm I voting Robz? I don't know. unvote

Why is this thread so dead? It's just not bastard enough. Needs more excitement.

[Captain_Frisk]

DoubleVote: RobZ to make up for Galz

[Robz888]

Oh, I forgot about this! Please don't kill me, it's my only mafia game, and I'm entirely demoralized.

I'll even take it seriously now. Volt, do you hear me? *weeps* I'll take it seriously, I swear

[Galzria]

Oh, I forgot about this! Please don't kill me, it's my only mafia game, and I'm entirely demoralized.

I'll even take it seriously now. Volt, do you hear me? *weeps* I'll take it seriously, I swear

Hey, I already unvoted you, and I wasn't voting you to begin with!

Although you could get even and revenge vote me. But I wouldn't recommend it.

[Voltgloss]

Volt, do you hear me?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

.....but I can still Unvote you with impunity.

[Voltgloss]

Although you could get even and revenge vote me. But I wouldn't recommend it.

Galz, didn't you claim scum in this game?  What's wrong with Robz revenge voting you?

[ashersky]

5 of the 11 players in this game have usernames that end in "e."  What does that mean??

[Galzria]

Although you could get even and revenge vote me. But I wouldn't recommend it.

Galz, didn't you claim scum in this game?  What's wrong with Robz revenge voting you?

Yessir! But he's my scumbuddy, remember? Revenge voting me WOULD be bad.

[Eevee]

Random lynch and onto the night to see how bastard this thing really is?

Even better: Pick a target on random, vote him to L-1, have him claim, assess how believable the claim was and go from there? That way we can play this both serious and not serious and actually progress?

[Cuzz]

Are we really not gonna lynch the dude claiming scum?

Vote: Galzria

[Galzria]

Are we really not gonna lynch the dude claiming scum?

Vote: Galzria

All the cool kids are doing it.

[Galzria]

Are we really not gonna lynch the dude claiming scum?

Vote: Galzria

However, if you DO lynch me, you won't like the results. (Which is all the more reason you should lynch me, amirite?)

[Voltgloss]

Do we have a lynch deadline?

[Cuzz]

Do we have a lynch deadline?

That is a fantastic question.

[Galzria]

What about a vote-count? I wanna have the chance to claim my fantastic bastard role!

[Cuzz]

Guys, I sense Galz is solftclaiming a fantastic bastard role of some sort.

But then again, he hardclaimed scum.

Hmm...

[Galzria]

Guys, I sense Galz is solftclaiming a fantastic bastard role of some sort.

But then again, he hardclaimed scum.

Hmm...

Shh! Don't let other-scum know! I'm the GOOD kind! Really I am!

[Eevee]

Friendly neighborhood serial killer?

[Galzria]

Friendly neighborhood serial killer?

 

[jotheonah]

Do you WANT a lynch deadline? What would you do if there weren't a lynch deadline?

[Cuzz]

Guise, it is never too early for a post count. Let's shame the lurkers, acti-lurkers, and clearly-overcompensating-for-being-scum-by-posting-twice-as-much-as-anyone-else-ers. This DOES include RVS (which may or may not still be going on). It DOES include people who are not actually playing. It DOES NOT include pre-game or confirmation stage. It DOES include the incessant bitching about MXII.

Insomniac  1
shraeye   2
Archetype   2
Captain_Frisk   2
Ozle    3
cayvie   3
Glooble   3
ashersky   10
jotheonah  10
Voltgloss   11
Robz   15
Cuzz   16
Galzria   17
Eevee   30

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.4

Glooble (1): Eevee
Robz888 (1): Captain_Frisk
Eevee (1): shraeye
Galzria (4): Glooble, Archetype, Robz888, Cuzz [L-2]
Cuzz (1): ashersky

Not voting: cayvie, Galzria, Voltgloss

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Lynch deadline is REDACTED.

[cayvie]

vote: Eevee

No day is safe from news of you.

[Eevee]

Vote: Galzria

Someone hammer him and get this game moving.

[cayvie]

whoa, i thought i was pressing the vote button, not the "make them do something scummy" button

[Captain_Frisk]

Admitte scum?

Vote: Galzria

[Cuzz]

Vote: Galzria

Someone hammer him and get this game moving.

Vote: Eevee

[Cuzz]

Wow too late.

[Jorbles]

Galzria, the Bastard-aligned Very Very Very Vengeful Jester, has been killed.

joth told me to tell you guys that. it's true.

[Voltgloss]

What, he (1) wins the game, and (2) kills everyone who voted for him?

Jorbles, are you PINLing?

[Jorbles]

Jorbles, are you PINLing?

I don't know what that means.

[Captain_Frisk]

Promise I'm Not Lying.

[Voltgloss]

Promise
I'm
Not
Lying

Term coined by jo in his role madness game.  To distinguish between times when the mod is definitely telling the truth, vs. times that the mod may or may not be lying.

[Jorbles]

Then I PIMNL.

[cayvie]

wow...

that sure is a bastardly role

[Voltgloss]

It's almost like this is BASTARD MAFIA~!

[Captain_Frisk]

He added a m in there.

Promise I am maybe not lying?

[Jorbles]

He added a m in there.

Promise I am maybe not lying?

Troll away! *poof*

[Voltgloss]

Promise I'm Mostly Now Lying

[Eevee]

Lol obviously it was a joke. I doubt Jorb and Joth even have any communication outside these forums. Good one though.

[Archetype]

Lol obviously it was a joke. I doubt Jorb and Joth even have any communication outside these forums. Good one though.

I was going to say...why wouldn't joth just tell us himself

+1 Troll point to you Jorbles

[Glooble]

Guys joth called me and said I should tell y'all

THREAD LOCKED.

[cayvie]

joth appeared to me in a dream and told me to tell you

Game Over. Everyone is dead. Troll wins.

[Voltgloss]

[ashersky]

Quick, someone try to direct all the night actions.

[shraeye]

I would vote for count but I'd rather still have my vote on the guy it's on now and I don't remember who it was so.

But I'm sure he was very scummy.

Pretty sure at least.

Unvote

vote: Cuzz for pointing out scum plays.  Also for giving his two biggest scum reads and then voting Robz for no reason (although Galz says he's bussing).

I wrote a script that just tacks that on the end of all my posts. Much more efficient this way.

Vote: Robz

brilliant, I like this guys style.  He's obvtown.

Robz, why did you switch from voting Galz to voting Eevee?

It's bastard mafia. I don't have to answer your questions in bastard mafia.

Vote: Robz888

It's bastard mafia.  I don't have to put my vote on anyone besides you (until you answer my questions) in bastard mafia.

And I can OMGUS you with impunity! Vote: Voltgloss

Man Robz looks bad here. My new biggest scumread. I'll Vote: Robz.

Vote: Robz

IT'S BASTARD MAFIA.

Vote: Cuzz, for not getting it.

Oh I get it. Not sure if you do though.

I'm getting fed up with this game. So fed up I'd like to singlehandedly end it now without any further input from the rest of the town.

Vote: theorel. That should do it.

Willing to sheep this man; he's correct

Vote: theorel

Voting RobZ is playing for random bastard fun.

Vote: RobZ

I haven't even read anything other than the last 2 posts!

biggest townread so far.  Seriously.  Not a joke.

If you're posting this thread and you're not on the player list, pick a color. And keep it short and funny.

Sir Yes Sir!

Best color ever.

5 of the 11 players in this game have usernames that end in "e."  What does that mean??

This should be the big question for day 2.

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.4


Eevee (2): shraeye, cayvie
Galzria (6): Glooble, Archetype, Robz888, Cuzz, Eevee, Captain_Frisk
Cuzz (1): ashersky

Not voting: Galzria, Voltgloss

Galzria has been lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie. Dead players are absolutely not allowed to post in this forum.

Night 1 has begun. Actions are due in 48 hours.

[jotheonah]

Also, you can trust Glooble if I have to remotely lock the thread via him again, and trust that it is the only communication between us about this game. PINL.

Jorbles, not so much.

[jotheonah]

I don't remember anything about the flavor I wrote to start this game.  But this morning, the town wakes up to flowers and sunshine and rainbows and two dead bodies.

Archetype and Shraeye have been killed. They were Vanilla Townies.

[jotheonah]

Day 2 begins. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Axxle]

Dead players are absolutely not allowed to post in this forum.

I'll be sure to enforce it in CE IV.

[jotheonah]

But they can ask for a speccy link! It's lonely in there.

[Axxle]

But they can ask for a speccy link! It's lonely in there.

What I mean is you said forum, not thread

[jotheonah]

Ok, that's fair. Dead players can post anywhere in the forum except this thread. And other forum game threads they're dead or not playing in.

[Jorbles]

Dead players are absolutely not allowed to post in this forum.

I'll be sure to enforce it in CE IV.

I don't want to see any more posts from Galzria in CE IV!

[cayvie]

i had questions for shraeye >:|

[Ozle]

What if they are dead in another game though?

[Cuzz]

Is anyone playing this game gonna play this game?

[Insomniac]

[Robz888]

Is anyone playing this game gonna play this game?

I'm playing for real now. Who else is alive?

[Eevee]

Is anyone playing this game gonna play this game?

I'm playing for real now. Who else is alive?

I'm here.

[Robz888]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

[Robz888]

Glooble is playing? What a lurker. I mean, everyone is a lurker, but Glooble the lurker king. The Lord of Lurk.

[Eevee]

cayvie or glooble to die.

[cayvie]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

[cayvie]

cayvie or glooble to die.

what

[Robz888]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

The list of people still alive. Wanna make something of it, punk?

[Voltgloss]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

The list of people still alive. Wanna make something of it, punk?

I... think I still have a pulse in this game?  Robz, you know something I don't?  Softclaiming Poisoner?

[Robz888]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

The list of people still alive. Wanna make something of it, punk?

I... think I still have a pulse in this game?  Robz, you know something I don't?  Softclaiming Poisoner?

Oh, sorry. I just looked at the last vote count, and you weren't voting, so I missed you.

[cayvie]

okay.

yesterday was short. reread of galzria:

He thought Eevee was town, said so twice.
He seemed to legitimately think Robz was scum? Not sure.

reread of shraeye:
I CAN'T TELL WHAT HE THOUGHT, WAS HE BEING SARCASTIC OR NOT?
other than that, there was a "92% RVS" vote on eevee and a vote on himself.

reread of archetype:
liked the galzria lynch.

[ashersky]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

The list of people still alive. Wanna make something of it, punk?

I... think I still have a pulse in this game?  Robz, you know something I don't?  Softclaiming Poisoner?

Oh, sorry. I just looked at the last vote count, and you weren't voting, so I missed you.

And me?

[ashersky]

How hilarious would it be if we're all vanilla townies regardless? I mean, three so far?

[Cuzz]

It's cayvie, glooble, eevee, frisk, and me.

what is this list

The list of people still alive. Wanna make something of it, punk?

I... think I still have a pulse in this game?  Robz, you know something I don't?  Softclaiming Poisoner?

Oh, sorry. I just looked at the last vote count, and you weren't voting, so I missed you.

And me?

Am I dead? Need to reread apparently...

[Eevee]

How hilarious would it be if we're all vanilla townies regardless? I mean, three so far?

There were nightkills, so no.

[Cuzz]

How hilarious would it be if we're all vanilla townies regardless? I mean, three so far?

There were nightkills, so no.

I think he means if we all flip VT no matter what, right ash?

[ashersky]

How hilarious would it be if we're all vanilla townies regardless? I mean, three so far?

There were nightkills, so no.

I think he means if we all flip VT no matter what, right ash?

That is correct.

[Voltgloss]

cayvie or glooble to die.

Eevee, what does this mean?

[Glooble]

Sorry guys, I haven't had access to a computer in roughly 24 hours.

It is clear to me that my night power does not do what joth told me it did. I am saying this as a warning to any power roles, because he might be doing the same thing to you. I would suggest thinking very hard about who you target.

[Robz888]

Do we have any information whatsoever to go off of?

[Cuzz]

Do we have any information whatsoever to go off of?

No because Eevee and Frisk quickhammered a suicidal VT.

[Glooble]

Assuming the flips aren't a lie. I don't trust this mod at all.

[ashersky]

Assuming the flips aren't a lie. I don't trust this mod at all.

This.  I'm sure not all three were VTs.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were only one VT.

[Glooble]

I have strong evidence the mod lied to me in my role PM. Ergo, I must assume nothing is safe.

However, Eevee's day one behavior still looks scummy to me.

[Cuzz]

Assuming the flips aren't a lie. I don't trust this mod at all.

This.  I'm sure not all three were VTs.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were only one VT.

If you're so sure not all three were VT, why assume any were VT at all?

[ashersky]

Assuming the flips aren't a lie. I don't trust this mod at all.

This.  I'm sure not all three were VTs.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were only one VT.

If you're so sure not all three were VT, why assume any were VT at all?

I meant 0, 1, 2, or 3 of them could be VT.

[jotheonah]

I'm deeply hurt by how much you all distrust me, especially my own flesh and blood. Tsk tsk.

[cayvie]

I have strong evidence the mod lied to me in my role PM. Ergo, I must assume nothing is safe.

However, Eevee's day one behavior still looks scummy to me.

he thinks we should die

i still want to know why

[Voltgloss]

Vote: Eevee.  Never thought I'd vote Eevee for lurking, but he is and I am.

[Eevee]

sorry, haven't been on the forums/internets at all. this might not change until tomorrow. cayvie or glooble was just a feeling thing. cayvie I targeted you last night, did anything happen to your knowledge?

[ashersky]

Maybe we should all say if something happened to us at night?

[Robz888]

Nothing happened to me that I know of.

[Eevee]

Nothing happened to me.

[ashersky]

Nothing to me.

[Robz888]

Vote: Glooble

He's even quieter than always.

[Voltgloss]

Nothing happened to me that I know of.

I still don't understand Eevee's posts.  "cayvie or Glooble was just a feeling thing?"  A feeling about what?  I can't tell if he's talking about who he thinks is scum, or who he thinks is a likely scum target. 

[Cuzz]

Nothing happened to me either as far as I know. I am also bothered by that weird Eevee comment. It was cryptic and has not been sufficiently elaborated on.

[Eevee]

sorry! i meant it's the two i suspect the most.

[Eevee]

Funny, I just today downloaded the first season of whose line is it anyway. Didn't even know that's where the joke came from! If it even did. Had a giggle either way.

Anyone opposing a Glooble lynch? There are bastard games queued up, we should maybe try to make some progress here.

[Robz888]

I support the Glooble lynch.

[Eevee]

Vote: Glooble

Robz usually only agrees with me when he is scum by the way.

[Cuzz]

Funny, I just today downloaded the first season of whose line is it anyway. Didn't even know that's where the joke came from! If it even did. Had a giggle either way.

Anyone opposing a Glooble lynch? There are bastard games queued up, we should maybe try to make some progress here.

This might be the worst justification for lynching someone I've ever seen.

[Eevee]

Funny, I just today downloaded the first season of whose line is it anyway. Didn't even know that's where the joke came from! If it even did. Had a giggle either way.

Anyone opposing a Glooble lynch? There are bastard games queued up, we should maybe try to make some progress here.

This might be the worst justification for lynching someone I've ever seen.

It was a justification for rushing, not for lynching. Another justification could be "nothing seems to happen unless we take action".

[Cuzz]

Funny, I just today downloaded the first season of whose line is it anyway. Didn't even know that's where the joke came from! If it even did. Had a giggle either way.

Anyone opposing a Glooble lynch? There are bastard games queued up, we should maybe try to make some progress here.

This might be the worst justification for lynching someone I've ever seen.

It was a justification for rushing, not for lynching. Another justification could be "nothing seems to happen unless we take action".

Action it is! (quick reread....) Vote: Eevee. The call for hammer D1, the weird "cayvie Glooble to die" comment, the insistence that we play this bastard game seriously. These are a few of my favorite reasons for voting Eevee.

[Eevee]

The first thing you list I can understand, if you think scum would play that bold. I disagree about it, but I can understand you thinking I'd wifom it like that. How on earth are the other two you mention good reasons for voting for me? Or reasons at all for that matter, to me they both seem like towny / neutral actions.

[Cuzz]

The first thing you list I can understand, if you think scum would play that bold. I disagree about it, but I can understand you thinking I'd wifom it like that. How on earth are the other two you mention good reasons for voting for me? Or reasons at all for that matter, to me they both seem like towny / neutral actions.

Well of course it's mostly the first reason. The second thing was mostly just bizarre and I'm not sure what to make of it exactly, but it's weird behavior which is more than I have on anyone else at the moment. The third is half a joke (since I'm still not really taking this game seriously myself) and half the fact that maybe you want a game in which you have a juicy scum role to be taken seriously by everyone else.

[Eevee]

The first thing you list I can understand, if you think scum would play that bold. I disagree about it, but I can understand you thinking I'd wifom it like that. How on earth are the other two you mention good reasons for voting for me? Or reasons at all for that matter, to me they both seem like towny / neutral actions.

Well of course it's mostly the first reason. The second thing was mostly just bizarre and I'm not sure what to make of it exactly, but it's weird behavior which is more than I have on anyone else at the moment. The third is half a joke (since I'm still not really taking this game seriously myself) and half the fact that maybe you want a game in which you have a juicy scum role to be taken seriously by everyone else.

Well, I disagree with you on the first issue. To my great joy this forum has pretty much stopped lynching people for mistakes or not mistakes that "look weird". In my experience, weird behavior is almost always (Ozle in the beginning of VI is the ONLY counterexample I can think of, and an argument for being sort of weird being normal for him can be made). What am I getting at is, I think scum wants to AVOID the spotlight, not cry for it by asking for anyone to hammer someone they know to be town.

Bizarre behavior (I don't even think it was bizarre) is obviously then a nogood reason too in my opinion. What's so bizarre about it anyways, I listed the two people that gave me the weirdest vibe / felt worst on a gut level, just worded it sort of poorly. I word stuff poorly all the time, I  announce my gut-based suspicions (that are never correct) all the time.

If I had an awesome scum role, I would (as explained in the first chapter of this post) probably just lay low which pretty much ensures staying alive in bastard games because everyone plays so terrible. I've explained my reasons for wanting a normalish game (my role doesn't suggest we couldn't play normal, and I find that more enjoyable), at least cayvie agreed with me.

I'm unsure whether I think pushing terrible cases makes Cuzz look scummy to me or not. On the other hand, it feels he tried to make his case against me seem stronger than it actually is and when I called him out on it, he couldn't quite explain the reasons for the vote. On the other hand, unless they are both scum with Glooble, I don't see why he would "risk himself" like that by derailing a lynch that looked like was going to land on a townie anyways (and actually, he might not do that even if he was scum with Glooble, because the townside is so huge and scum tends to be scared of making big moves because they are too paranoid of getting caught - at least robz and galzria have written about this, it was a long time ago though). So meh, noread/slight town read on Cuzz from this. I find his case against me a typical townie mistake that people often mistake for mafia behavior.

[Robz888]

It would not surprise me if Eevee were mafia, mainly because he's trying harder than everybody else. But like he says, scum can just say nothing and probably live here, everybody is lurking, we know scum generally lurk, so let's kill a superscum lurker: Glooble.

[Cuzz]

It would not surprise me if Eevee were mafia, mainly because he's trying harder than everybody else.

Yeah, this is basically the vibe I'm getting. Lots of WIFOM to be had there though. I also really disagree with Eevee's claim that scum would just be laying low. People have really been pushing LaL lately, and I think the days of lurking being a viable scum strategy are ending. WIFOM in that direction too, though...

[Eevee]

Idk, Cuzz, you are voting for me. Me, the guy who "could flip mafia and it wouldn't surprise you", despite there being gazillions of lurkers. What, I should just also not try at all, that's the direction you want me to go to?

Although, I'm actually second-guessing myself now, I don't think scum-Glooble / scum-anyone would lurk THIS excessively. Probably more like "posting enough not to be the worst lurker but still not saying anything". Hey, that's cayvie.

I guess I should be flattered you think I could fake posts like these as scum, but it's very frustrating how I can say "scum can just skate through lurking and the active guys will be killed", you all say "no way we are past that!" and then do just that!? Hint: if we were past that, maybe we would have lynched a lurker once.

Nah, I actually think scum is more likely to lurk a little less than Glooble is here, but since heh as forgotten about this game if he is town, I still support that lynch. I don't think our odds of finding scum are great either way given the circumstances (not taking any positions and lurking all you want is acceptable and we don't even know if there is any mafia, could be just 4 serial killers who kill on odd / even nights or whatever, it's a bastard game).

[Glooble]

I've just been really busy actually. I keep ending up not going home for 48 hours at a time with no warning.

We lynched a lurker in MXI and ended up catching a huge scum power role. But I agree that in the absence of better info, we should generally lynch lurkers.

However, I am a bad lynch in this particular game.

[ashersky]

Guys, really, what are we doing?

Vote: Robz.  "Active" enough to not be lurking, but not really contributing, directing lynches. 

Town reads on Eevee and Glooble.

Neutral for now on Cuzz.

[Robz888]

Guys, really, what are we doing?

Vote: Robz.  "Active" enough to not be lurking, but not really contributing, directing lynches. 

Dude, this describes every single person in this game.

[Cuzz]

Guys, really, what are we doing?

Vote: Robz.  "Active" enough to not be lurking, but not really contributing, directing lynches. 

Dude, this describes every single person in this game.

Not everyone. Frisk is by no means active enough to be not lurking. Vote: Captain_Frisk.

[Voltgloss]

Vote: ashersky

"Town reads?"  Really?  Based on what?

[ashersky]

Vote: ashersky

"Town reads?"  Really?  Based on what?

Vote: Voltgloss

Based on a lack of questioning me.

[Robz888]

Vote: ashersky

[jotheonah]

Vote Count

ashersky(2): Voltgloss, Robz
Glooble(1): Eevee
Robz(1): ashersky
Captain_Frisk(1): Cuzz
Voltgloss(1): ashersky
not voting (2): Glooble, cayvie

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[ashersky]

unvote

How about folks actually provide analysis/reads/etc.?  I tried, but got shot down and voted for it.

Eevee and Cuzz at least have had something to say, which makes them at least pro-town in that they are playing.

Robz and Voltgloss have just one-line phoned it in, which is at least anti-town in the scummy lurking style.

[cayvie]

sorry, haven't been on the forums/internets at all. this might not change until tomorrow. cayvie or glooble was just a feeling thing. cayvie I targeted you last night, did anything happen to your knowledge?

nope, nothing

[Robz888]

unvote

How about folks actually provide analysis/reads/etc.?  I tried, but got shot down and voted for it.

Eevee and Cuzz at least have had something to say, which makes them at least pro-town in that they are playing.

Robz and Voltgloss have just one-line phoned it in, which is at least anti-town in the scummy lurking style.

Oh really? Oh really, ashersky? Guess what, last time I did a post count, I was still ahead of YOU, 25 to 19. I know I'm not the top contributor--NO ONE except Eevee is contributing much--but you're not doing anything more than I am.

[ashersky]

unvote

How about folks actually provide analysis/reads/etc.?  I tried, but got shot down and voted for it.

Eevee and Cuzz at least have had something to say, which makes them at least pro-town in that they are playing.

Robz and Voltgloss have just one-line phoned it in, which is at least anti-town in the scummy lurking style.

Oh really? Oh really, ashersky? Guess what, last time I did a post count, I was still ahead of YOU, 25 to 19. I know I'm not the top contributor--NO ONE except Eevee is contributing much--but you're not doing anything more than I am.

Yes really.  I said you had one-liners, which your inflated post count would support.

At least we agree Eevee was contributing.

[Captain_Frisk]

Vote: ashersky

Being serious about constributions in a bastard mod game is a scumtell.

[cayvie]

okay, i think we just need to start saying things. conversation is so dead that people are turning on anyone who's saying anything at all.

part of that is that day 1 was so damn short. how many scum do people think were on the wagon?

[Insomniac]

[jotheonah]

Vote Count

ashersky(3): Voltgloss, Robz, Captain_Frisk
Glooble(1): Eevee
Captain_Frisk(1): Cuzz
not voting (3): Glooble, cayvie, ashersky

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

DEADLINE IS IN 1 HOUR

[jotheonah]

Just kidding, there's still no deadline.

[Cuzz]

okay, i think we just need to start saying things. conversation is so dead that people are turning on anyone who's saying anything at all.

part of that is that day 1 was so damn short. how many scum do people think were on the wagon?

I have said that I do not like the way that Frisk and Eevee ended D1. I would guess that one or both of them is scum. It's a crazy scum play but scum can afford to be somewhat crazy in a bastard game.

[Galzria]

VOTE: INSOMNIAC.

[Insomniac]

Galzria has been modkilled for posting in the thread while dead 

[Cuzz]

And though everyone has been quiet, Glooble has been near silent, Robz and Volt have been waaaaaaay quieter than I've ever seen them as town, and Insomniac keeps confusing me by not being in this game.

FoS on all y'all.

[ashersky]

Policy lynch the hammer the next day, every day?

[cayvie]

Policy lynch the hammer the next day, every day?

sounds reasonable

that strategy will encourage us to lynch frequently

[Voltgloss]

FoS: Hurricane Sandy

I have had no power and no internet access since Monday.  I still don't.

Posting from work but I'm only here for a couple of hours.

Where did ashersky post the basis for his townreads?  "A lack of questioning me" isn't a basis, it's an OMGUS.

[Voltgloss]

(I live and work in New Jersey, incidentally)

[Captain_Frisk]

Fos volt gloss

Choosing to live in nj is a scum tell of the higher order.

I sympathize re: power though. I also don't have it.

[cayvie]

*shrug*

vote: eevee

[Cuzz]

Still no deadline in this game, huh?

[eHalcyon]

Guys I have modconfirmed info that I'm not in this game.

[jotheonah]

Vote Count

ashersky(3): Voltgloss, Robz, Captain_Frisk
Glooble(1): Eevee
Captain_Frisk(1): Cuzz
Eevee(1): cayvie
not voting (3): Glooble, ashersky

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday at midnight. Happy?

[ashersky]

L-2?  Do I need to claim?  You don't want to kill me.

[cayvie]

L-2?  Do I need to claim?  You don't want to kill me.

no don't claim

nobody's made a case against you!

vote eevee instead for pushing the galz lynch so hard at the end of d1.

[ashersky]

And though everyone has been quiet, Glooble has been near silent, Robz and Volt have been waaaaaaay quieter than I've ever seen them as town, and Insomniac keeps confusing me by not being in this game.

FoS on all y'all.

Actually, I'll Vote: Robz for lurking without an excuse.

[Glooble]

I am like ultra-not invested in this game. I have no excuse for that. I apologize.

I thin I'll join Cuzz and Vote: Captain Frisk. I don't have a lot to go on, but he and Eevee seem the scummiest, and if we lynch Eevee now I'm scared the game will drag to a standstill.

[Voltgloss]

I'm still waiting for the basis of ashersky's townreads.  Until and unless those materialize, I see no reason to move my vote.

[Captain_Frisk]

Why would lynching eevee move the game to a stand still?  The game isn't moving as is?

I am like ultra-not invested in this game. I have no excuse for that. I apologize.

I thin I'll join Cuzz and Vote: Captain Frisk. I don't have a lot to go on, but he and Eevee seem the scummiest, and if we lynch Eevee now I'm scared the game will drag to a standstill.

Calling it now: Cuzz + Glooble scum team.

[Glooble]

yeah, but Eevee is like, the only person not lurking.

[Robz888]

And though everyone has been quiet, Glooble has been near silent, Robz and Volt have been waaaaaaay quieter than I've ever seen them as town, and Insomniac keeps confusing me by not being in this game.

FoS on all y'all.

Actually, I'll Vote: Robz for lurking without an excuse.

Everyone is lurking. There is nothing to say!

[Captain_Frisk]

yeah, but Eevee is like, the only person not lurking.

Are we talking about the same eevee?  He hasn't posted since monday.  I know he has some RL issues right now.

[Cuzz]

And though everyone has been quiet, Glooble has been near silent, Robz and Volt have been waaaaaaay quieter than I've ever seen them as town, and Insomniac keeps confusing me by not being in this game.

FoS on all y'all.

Actually, I'll Vote: Robz for lurking without an excuse.

Everyone is lurking. There is nothing to say!

Well we do have a deadline coming up, so perhaps we could talk about whom we should lynch?

[Eevee]

Yeah, I'm definitely lurking, lol glooble. Don't really have anything to say.

[ashersky]

I'm still waiting for the basis of ashersky's townreads.  Until and unless those materialize, I see no reason to move my vote.

This seems a bit hardheaded.  I had town reads based on posts by the people up to that point.  How do you form reads?

[Voltgloss]

I'm still waiting for the basis of ashersky's townreads.  Until and unless those materialize, I see no reason to move my vote.

This seems a bit hardheaded.  I had town reads based on posts by the people up to that point.  How do you form reads?

I form reads based on posts.  Posts which I identify, with specificity, when explaining my reads.

You said you have townreads, but gave no explanation.  I asked for an explanation, and you voted me for my impudence, saying you have townreads on them "for not questioning me."  Now you say you have townreads based on "posts," but again fail to identify any such posts. 

Saying you have "townreads" on players is a subtle way to make them less likely to vote you.  This is why scum can benefit by buddying up to town.  Your willful refusal to explain the basis of your townreads smells like you have NO basis for those townreads - or, rather, no basis you care to divulge.  I suspect - and my suspicion is increasing with your responses - that the basis for your townreads is that you are scum and know them to be town, and your reason for saying you had those townreads was to subtly dissuade them from voting for you.

Does the rest of the town agree that (1) ashersky is refusing to answer a simple question, and (2) this is more likely to be the behavior of scum than the behavior of town?

[ashersky]

I'm still waiting for the basis of ashersky's townreads.  Until and unless those materialize, I see no reason to move my vote.

This seems a bit hardheaded.  I had town reads based on posts by the people up to that point.  How do you form reads?

I form reads based on posts.  Posts which I identify, with specificity, when explaining my reads.

You said you have townreads, but gave no explanation.  I asked for an explanation, and you voted me for my impudence, saying you have townreads on them "for not questioning me."  Now you say you have townreads based on "posts," but again fail to identify any such posts. 

Saying you have "townreads" on players is a subtle way to make them less likely to vote you.  This is why scum can benefit by buddying up to town.  Your willful refusal to explain the basis of your townreads smells like you have NO basis for those townreads - or, rather, no basis you care to divulge.  I suspect - and my suspicion is increasing with your responses - that the basis for your townreads is that you are scum and know them to be town, and your reason for saying you had those townreads was to subtly dissuade them from voting for you.

Does the rest of the town agree that (1) ashersky is refusing to answer a simple question, and (2) this is more likely to be the behavior of scum than the behavior of town?

I have a town read on you.  Are you now less likely to vote for me?

Anyone have a vote count?  Let me put myself at L1 so mafia can hammer a PR for you.

[Cuzz]

What is the status of the Queue? I have a Ozle special style game I'm working on.
But it wont be run if there are people on too many games (might have a limit that if you are in more than one or two games currently you cannot join mine)

Half these games people are inactive just because there are so many people in them and not enough time.

I demand special Robz exception. I am active in every game I play. I demand to play every game. I have never missed a game. Thank you.

Also, there are like a million people who want to host games. Fine with me, I'll play them all! But just warning you.

Vote: Robz

[Robz888]

I'm as active as anyone. I've expressed interest in lynching Glooble for mega-lurking--and he's a proven scum lurker, by the way, in MIV and MVI--and ashersky for his weirdness.

[Cuzz]

Ok need to have some chance of a lynch before deadline and a busy weekend for several people is coming up.

Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Ok need to have some chance of a lynch before deadline and a busy weekend for several people is coming up.

Vote: ashersky

Is that L-1?  Can we get a vote count?

Should I claim now?

[jotheonah]

Vote Count

ashersky(4): Voltgloss, Robz, Captain_Frisk, Cuzz [L-1]
Glooble(1): Eevee
Captain_Frisk(1): Glooble
Eevee(1): cayvie
Robz(1): ashersky


With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Sunday night.

[Glooble]

So yeah, I would claim.

[ashersky]

Town Rotating PR.  I was doc N1, tracker tonight.

[cayvie]

Town Rotating PR.  I was doc N1, tracker tonight.

what... something's up

[ashersky]

Town Rotating PR.  I was doc N1, tracker tonight.

what... something's up

What's up?  Same as you?  I could see there being multiples of this role, on different cycles.

[cayvie]

well, let's just say i don't think you're the lynch today...

[ashersky]

well, let's just say i don't think you're the lynch today...

I am still at L-1, so scum can still hammer.

[Captain_Frisk]

Who did you doctor and why?

[Eevee]

i'm very inclined to believe ashersky is telling the truth too.

[ashersky]

Who did you doctor and why?

Eevee, town read.

[Voltgloss]

Unvote

The claim is interesting, but the reactions to it even more so.

CF, do you find the claim plausible?

[jotheonah]

Deadline in <24 hours

[Cuzz]

Weirdness.

unvote

Back to Vote: Robz I guess.

[Glooble]

This is very strange. Bastardly, indeed.

I was also told I was a rotating PR, same powers.

[Robz888]

I believe him. Unvote

[ashersky]

So imagine we're all the same...how do we use this to our advantage?

[Robz888]

So imagine we're all the same...how do we use this to our advantage?

We lynch someone who isn't, clearly. Vote: Voltgloss

[Voltgloss]

So imagine we're all the same...how do we use this to our advantage?

We lynch someone who isn't, clearly. Vote: Voltgloss

Except, I am the same. 

Proof:  I did not know what power I would have Night 2 (which turned out to be Tracker) until after Night 1 had completed.  Same true for all the rest of you, I assume?

And I doctored cayvie Night 1.

[Glooble]

Yeah, same.

[ashersky]

Confirmed.  VG is def town with his extra tidbit of info which matches mine.

[cayvie]

well, huh.

now what

[shraeye]

Y'all should lynch me.  Seriously, I want to see 5 votes on me, stat!

[cayvie]

Y'all should lynch me.  Seriously, I want to see 5 votes on me, stat!

??

Day 1 Galzria reborn?

[Glooble]

Shraeye is already dead.

I know this because I protected him night one, which is why I said what I did about not trusting our mod.

[shraeye]

No really, I have crucial information, but I have to be lynched post-death in order to give it to you guys.

[Glooble]

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

Vote: shraeye

[Ozle]

dont do it!! Its a trap!! Plus i believe i claimed pink first!

[Voltgloss]

So imagine we're all the same...how do we use this to our advantage?

We lynch someone who isn't, clearly. Vote: Voltgloss

Robz has the right idea, but the wrong target.  Vote: Captain_Frisk for reacting to ash's claim in a way that DOESN'T suggest he (CF) has the same role.  That, plus the eagerness to blithely lynch Galz Day 1, has made him my biggest suspect.

[Glooble]

Good point. I believe I was voting him before anyway.

Vote: Captain Frisk

[jotheonah]

Seriously, no dead players in here! Out! Ignore everything they say!

[jotheonah]

Also I'm extending the deadline to 7:00 AM tomorrow morning. At that point, if you don't have a majority, you will no lynch.

[Cuzz]

Vote: Captain_Frisk

[ashersky]

Vote: CF

[ashersky]

Also, that's L-1 for Frisk.

[Galzria]

Hammer Vote: Frisk!

[Eevee]

samesies i too protected cayvie. ote: captain frisk

[Eevee]

vote: captain frisk

[Captain_Frisk]

Brilliant.

I'm the same rotating power.  (Doctor N1 -> targeted RobZ) Tracker tonight.

[jotheonah]

THREAD LOCKED

[jotheonah]

Vote Count

ashersky(1):Captain_Frisk
Captain_Frisk(5): Glooble, Voltgloss, Cuzz, ashersky, Eevee
Eevee(1): cayvie
Voltgloss(1): Robz888


With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Captain Frisk has been lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie.  You have 24 hours to submit night actions. Any additional night data will come when I get off work probably.

[jotheonah]

Still waiting on one night action, and also don't have time to open this right now. Could be another day.

[jotheonah]

Day 3 Begins


Robz888, the Vanilla Townie, is dead.


With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is in one week.

[Voltgloss]

I tracked Glooble last night.  He targeted Robz.

FoS: Glooble

[Eevee]

I tracked Glooble last night. He didn't target anyone.

Voltgloss, what's your power for tonight? NO ONE ELSE ANSWER!

[Cuzz]

I tracked Glooble last night. He didn't target anyone.

Voltgloss, what's your power for tonight? NO ONE ELSE ANSWER!

Oh that's funny. I tracked Eevee, and got that he didn't target anyone.

[Eevee]

I tracked Glooble last night. He didn't target anyone.

Voltgloss, what's your power for tonight? NO ONE ELSE ANSWER!

Oh that's funny. I tracked Eevee, and got that he didn't target anyone.

The game is on then. I don't think it's likely Volt is intentionally lying (and I know I'm not lying and I'm inclined to think Cuzz is truthful too). We just need to figure this out now. Volt, don't answer my last question. We can probably save it until we find someone more suspicious and test them with it. Nobody tell what your power is this night!!

[Eevee]

Should we just massfullclaim? Seems we all got the same role, so no need to protect power roles. Could help us determining which of us are naive / unreliable and might even help us catch a liar today?

[Voltgloss]

I'd first like to hear from Glooble himself what he did during the night.

[Ozle]

I tracked Cuzz and he targeted Voltgloss!

[Captain_Frisk]

I tracked Cuzz and he targeted Voltgloss!

This is a lie.  I tracked Ozle, and he targeted himself.  I closed the door to give him some privacy.

[Cuzz]

I tracked Cuzz and he targeted Voltgloss!

Git outta here, you!

[Eevee]

I'd first like to hear from Glooble himself what he did during the night.

Good idea. Should we nominate one of us to lead a massclaim? Glooble might not get on for a while so we might as well do something in the mean time.

[Ozle]

If you're posting this thread and you're not on the player list, pick a color. And keep it short and funny.

I tracked Cuzz and he targeted Voltgloss!

Git outta here, you!

BOOM! Denied!

[cayvie]

I tracked Volt. He targeted Glooble.

[Glooble]

I tracked Robz. He targeted Voltgloss.

More importantly, I am now 2 for 2 with my targets dying (I protected shraeye night one.) Make of that what you will.

[Eevee]

I tracked Robz. He targeted Voltgloss.

More importantly, I am now 2 for 2 with my targets dying (I protected shraeye night one.) Make of that what you will.

Should you maybe not target anyone now to try that theory out?
It's weird, Frisk was called a VT even though he said he had the same exact role all of us seem to do.

[cayvie]

Should you maybe not target anyone now to try that theory out?
It's weird, Frisk was called a VT even though he said he had the same exact role all of us seem to do.

I feel fairly confident that the mod is lying about roles upon death. I'm starting to wonder if he's lying about alignments too...

[Eevee]

Should you maybe not target anyone now to try that theory out?
It's weird, Frisk was called a VT even though he said he had the same exact role all of us seem to do.

I feel fairly confident that the mod is lying about roles upon death. I'm starting to wonder if he's lying about alignments too...

Our roles also aren't doing what we are told they are (or Volt is lying) because our tracking results conflict with each other. Also noteworthy your (cayvie's) role seems to be reliable.

[Voltgloss]

Our roles also aren't doing what we are told they are (or Volt is lying) because our tracking results conflict with each other. Also noteworthy your (cayvie's) role seems to be reliable.

We're missing one person's track results:  ashersky.  I think we should get ashersky's results before trying to figure out who is lying.

Because assuredly SOMEONE is lying, because SOMEONE killed Robz. 

[Glooble]

I'm fairly certain I killed Robz.

[Glooble]

I did think him scummy though.

[cayvie]

I'm fairly certain I killed Robz.

are... are you secretly scum?

[Glooble]

That depends on if the mod would lie to me about my win condition. I was told I was town.

I think I'm a vigilante though. Both nights, my target has died.

[ashersky]

Our roles also aren't doing what we are told they are (or Volt is lying) because our tracking results conflict with each other. Also noteworthy your (cayvie's) role seems to be reliable.

We're missing one person's track results:  ashersky.  I think we should get ashersky's results before trying to figure out who is lying.

Because assuredly SOMEONE is lying, because SOMEONE killed Robz.

Sorry, time zones.

I confirm Cuzz's story, as I also tracked Eevee, who targeted no one (per my result).

I have a feeling we really do need to discuss what happens tonight.

[ashersky]

That depends on if the mod would lie to me about my win condition. I was told I was town.

I think I'm a vigilante though. Both nights, my target has died.

This makes the most sense.  Cuzz and I could be VT, since we got no result when we should have.  Our actual roles are the lies, but we all do have roles, just don't know what they are.  Glooble could be mafia and not know it?

[Cuzz]

That depends on if the mod would lie to me about my win condition. I was told I was town.

I think I'm a vigilante though. Both nights, my target has died.

This makes the most sense.  Cuzz and I could be VT, since we got no result when we should have.  Our actual roles are the lies, but we all do have roles, just don't know what they are.  Glooble could be mafia and not know it?

That sounds really, really bastardly. Why is "Eevee is lying" not the much simpler explanation?

[Eevee]

That depends on if the mod would lie to me about my win condition. I was told I was town.

I think I'm a vigilante though. Both nights, my target has died.

This makes the most sense.  Cuzz and I could be VT, since we got no result when we should have.  Our actual roles are the lies, but we all do have roles, just don't know what they are.  Glooble could be mafia and not know it?

That sounds really, really bastardly. Why is "Eevee is lying" not the much simpler explanation?

Bastard mafia though. Why assume I'm lying?

[Cuzz]

That depends on if the mod would lie to me about my win condition. I was told I was town.

I think I'm a vigilante though. Both nights, my target has died.

This makes the most sense.  Cuzz and I could be VT, since we got no result when we should have.  Our actual roles are the lies, but we all do have roles, just don't know what they are.  Glooble could be mafia and not know it?

That sounds really, really bastardly. Why is "Eevee is lying" not the much simpler explanation?

Bastard mafia though. Why assume I'm lying?

Because I think Occam's Razor still applies to some extent even in a bastard game. All townies having the same rotating PRs is a bastardly setup as it is. Why then go through the mental gymnastics of assuming the crazy unknown alignment/death miller stuff that ashersky is proposing to explain everyone's behavior, when you having lied also explains it much more simply?

There could also be weird mafia powers screwing with us to balance the fact that every townie seems to be a PR. We already know that there's some way by which two townies ended up dead in the same night. There could also be some busdriving, ninja actions, Lord knows what else to mess with tracking results.

[Eevee]

Bur why does it have to be me who is lying?

[Insomniac]

[Insomniac]

Fun fact, I send Jo this PM during the last game night.

Night Actions:
JOIN GAME
NIGHT KILL: ROBZ

[Cuzz]

Bur why does it have to be me who is lying?

Because I tracked you and you're contradicting my result! You're the only one who has said anything that contradicts the info I have.

[Eevee]

Bur why does it have to be me who is lying?

Because I tracked you and you're contradicting my result! You're the only one who has said anything that contradicts the info I have.

Someone should organize these claims so we could maybe try to crack this thing. I' think it's likely there are some contradictory results that do not involve anyone lying.

[Insomniac]

Bur why does it have to be me who is lying?

Because I tracked you and you're contradicting my result! You're the only one who has said anything that contradicts the info I have.

Someone should organize these claims so we could maybe try to crack this thing. I' think it's likely there are some contradictory results that do not involve anyone lying.

VOTE: EEVEE

[Voltgloss]

Someone should organize these claims so we could maybe try to crack this thing. I' think it's likely there are some contradictory results that do not involve anyone lying.

Here are our claims:

- Voltgloss's claim: "I tracked Glooble.  He targeted Robz."
- Eevee's claim: "I tracked Glooble.  He targeted no one."
- Cuzz's claim: "I tracked Eevee.  He targeted no one."
- cayvie's claim: "I tracked Voltgloss.  He targeted Glooble."
- Glooble's claim: "I tracked Robz.  He targeted Voltgloss."
- ashersky's claim: "I tracked Eevee.  He targeted no one."

"Eevee is lying" is a possible solution.  If Eevee is lying, everyone else's claims are mutually consistent.

On the flip side, if Eevee is telling the truth, then Cuzz and ashersky are both lying and/or received fake results.  And either Eevee received a fake result on Glooble, or Glooble is lying and I received a fake result on Glooble. 

[Eevee]

Order of the claims does affect the credibility somewhat. I'm too tired to go and read back now, but if you deduct me being scum is the most likely explanation, do not derplynch me before I get to offer my insight as to what I think of the order of our claims.

[Voltgloss]

Just FYI to all, the order in which I listed the claims is the order in which the claims were made.

[Ozle]

Bur why does it have to be me who is lying?

Because your pants are on fire....

[Glooble]

I really did target Robz, so Eevee's lie is apparent to me.

I am ready to Vote: Eevee.

If we really are all what were told we are tonight, this will be a short game.

[Eevee]

glooble that was anti-town. and it should be obvious It's not what it seems. we might have all gotten town pm's though, anyone care for a glooble lynch? he could be scum unknowingly or knowingly.

[Voltgloss]

Order of the claims does affect the credibility somewhat. I'm too tired to go and read back now, but if you deduct me being scum is the most likely explanation, do not derplynch me before I get to offer my insight as to what I think of the order of our claims.

Eevee, I would like to hear your thoughts regarding credibility/order of our claims.

I am poised to vote you because your telling the truth requires just too many other players to be lying and/or receiving misleading results.  But, per your request, I'll wait to vote until you have had your say.

[Eevee]

WAIT!!! My result wasn't no one, it was no result. Terribly sorry!

[Eevee]

So uhm, maybe I'm not a tracker then? Or I was jailkept?

[Eevee]

/wasn't a tracker last night.

[Eevee]

I think it's very possible we all got the same role pm. I think lynching glooble is probably best today, because both his targets have died.

[Eevee]

all the claims make sense now, right?

[Voltgloss]

Hmm.

Cuzz, ashersky:  Did your Tracking PMs come back saying "no result?"  Or did they say something else?

[Glooble]

The thing is, it would have been extremely easy for my to lie about my n1 target. If I was SK or scum, why the hell wouldn't I have?

[Eevee]

The thing is, it would have been extremely easy for my to lie about my n1 target. If I was SK or scum, why the hell wouldn't I have?

True? You might be unknowningly scum though.

Cuzz, what is your role tonight?

[eHalcyon]

we're probably all townies. No scum at all.

[Ozle]

we're probably all townies. No scum at all.

That would mean Town Wins right now though

[Eevee]

we're probably all townies. No scum at all.

Either way, Glooble seems to be killing people.

[ashersky]

Hmm.

Cuzz, ashersky:  Did your Tracking PMs come back saying "no result?"  Or did they say something else?

Eevee targeted no one.  That's what it actually said.  Subject line actually said Track Result, too.

[Voltgloss]

Thanks, ash.  Cuzz?

[Cuzz]

The thing is, it would have been extremely easy for my to lie about my n1 target. If I was SK or scum, why the hell wouldn't I have?

True? You might be unknowningly scum though.

Cuzz, what is your role tonight?

I will not respond to direct rolefishing from someone I am not at all convinced is town.

[Cuzz]

Oops, missed the other discussion going on. I too got that Eevee targeted no one. I think I said that originally.

[Voltgloss]

Thanks, Cuzz.

So here's the thing:

1.  In response to the assembly of everyone's Tracker claims - which show that "Eevee lying" does explain all discrepancies - Eevee suggested that an analysis of the order in which people claimed would be helpful, for credibility determination purposes.  (Which, as a general concept, I agree with.)

2.  After about one RL day, I asked Eevee for that promised analysis.

3.  Instead of giving such analysis, Eevee changed his claim, from a "Glooble targeted no one" claim to a "no tracking result" claim.

I don't like the discrepancies, I don't like the promised-but-vanished analysis, and I especially don't like the changed claim.  Also, as Eevee's new claim is the last claim out of everyone's, it's the least credible from an order-of-claims perspective as well.

For these reasons:

Vote: Eevee

[Insomniac]

Inb4 Eevee is a VT and you realize that I killed Robz as previously admitted

[Insomniac]

Almost forgot! Vote: Eevee

[Ozle]

Inb4 Eevee is a VT and you realize that I killed Robz as previously admitted

i thought I killed Robz!

[Insomniac]

Inb4 Eevee is a VT and you realize that I killed Robz as previously admitted

i thought I killed Robz!

No I'm Spartacus!

[Ozle]

Inb4 Eevee is a VT and you realize that I killed Robz as previously admitted

i thought I killed Robz!

No I'm Spartacus!

Vote: Spartacus

[jotheonah]

VOTE COUNT

Eevee(2): Glooble, Voltgloss
Not voting(): everyone else

[eHalcyon]

we're probably all townies. No scum at all.

That would mean Town Wins right now though

No!  Town has to no lynch to win!

[eHalcyon]

This is the best colour for posting in the forums.

[Insomniac]

VOTE COUNT

Eevee(2): Glooble, Voltgloss
Not voting(): everyone else

You left my vote off

[Cuzz]

This is the best colour for posting in the forums.

I preferred the morse code.

[jotheonah]

VOTE COUNT

Eevee(2): Glooble, Voltgloss
Not voting(): everyone else
Not playing(3): Ozle, eHalcyon, Insomniac
Not allowed to post here(4): Frisk, shraeye, Robz, Galzria
Not taking this game very seriously(): Pretty much everybody

[ashersky]

Vote: Eevee

[Voltgloss]

[Glooble]

VOTE COUNT

Eevee(2): Glooble, Voltgloss
Not voting(): everyone else
Not playing(3): Ozle, eHalcyon, Insomniac
Not allowed to post here(4): Frisk, shraeye, Robz, Galzria
Not taking this game very seriously(): Pretty much everybody

+10

[jotheonah]

That's L-1 for Mr. Evert.

[Cuzz]

Thanks, Cuzz.

So here's the thing:

1.  In response to the assembly of everyone's Tracker claims - which show that "Eevee lying" does explain all discrepancies - Eevee suggested that an analysis of the order in which people claimed would be helpful, for credibility determination purposes.  (Which, as a general concept, I agree with.)

2.  After about one RL day, I asked Eevee for that promised analysis.

3.  Instead of giving such analysis, Eevee changed his claim, from a "Glooble targeted no one" claim to a "no tracking result" claim.

I don't like the discrepancies, I don't like the promised-but-vanished analysis, and I especially don't like the changed claim.  Also, as Eevee's new claim is the last claim out of everyone's, it's the least credible from an order-of-claims perspective as well.

For these reasons:

Vote: Eevee

I agree with every bit of this. Oh, and that tracking result I have that says Eevee is lying.

Vote: Eevee

[Ozle]

Thanks, Cuzz.

So here's the thing:

1.  In response to the assembly of everyone's Tracker claims - which show that "Eevee lying" does explain all discrepancies - Eevee suggested that an analysis of the order in which people claimed would be helpful, for credibility determination purposes.  (Which, as a general concept, I agree with.)

2.  After about one RL day, I asked Eevee for that promised analysis.

3.  Instead of giving such analysis, Eevee changed his claim, from a "Glooble targeted no one" claim to a "no tracking result" claim.

I don't like the discrepancies, I don't like the promised-but-vanished analysis, and I especially don't like the changed claim.  Also, as Eevee's new claim is the last claim out of everyone's, it's the least credible from an order-of-claims perspective as well.

For these reasons:

Vote: Eevee

I agree with every bit of this. Oh, and that tracking result I have that says Eevee is lying.

Vote: Eevee

[Eevee]

idiots. i suspect cuzz for dodging my question and Volt for building a bad case (i think he's smarter than that). now that i'm confirmed town i'm allowed to blatantly omgus, right?

[jotheonah]

Eevee has been lynched. He was a , say it with me now, Vanilla Townie

Night 3 has begun. Send me night actions whenever.

[Eevee]

oh right glooble for being the killer. we might all be town too.

[Ozle]

oh right glooble for being the killer. we might all be town too.

Dead players cannot speak! BE OFF WITH YOU

[jotheonah]

Still Alive: Voltgloss, Glooble, cayvie, Cuzz, ashersky

Town is effectively endgamed, but given the nature of tonight's power will play it out just in case.

[jotheonah]

GAME OVER

Glooble has died, he was a Vanilla Townie.

Scum team WINS. It was: Voltgloss, Cuzz, and cayvie. FLAWLESS VICTORY.

Vanilla townie ashersky has been endgamed.

Scum team knows the whole setup, they can explain it at this point if they like. I will post the real whole setup tonight when I get to my home computer where the worddoc is saved.

[Galzria]

This is a lie, as he did NOT PINL.

The TRUTH, is that I've been brought back to life, and am now unlynchable (although I CAN be NK'd), so Doctors should protect me.

I'll still Vote: Volt though.

[Eevee]

at least i suspected the right people. not shocked that my lynch was scum-driven.

[Glooble]

I want to know the setup!

[Eevee]

me too.

[Voltgloss]

I'm sorry Galz, I can't hear you over the roar of our victory 

Good game all.  Props to my fellow scummates.  Here's the setup.

1.  jo told us ahead of time that all townies had the same rotating Power Role.  We knew everyone started as Doctor, but didn't know subsequent roles until you all did.

2.  Each night, we could have one player submit the scum nightkill; one player perform the town's power role; and one player roleblock someone else.

3.  We also had a "bonus" each night to mitigate the town's power roles.  Night 1, our killer could make two kill commands.  Night 2, our killer was a ninja.  Night 3, we couldn't perform a Vig kill, but instead could make one person bulletproof.

Night 1, we targeted the two worst lurkers (Archetype and shraeye) as being the least likely town doctor targets, and fortuitously roleblocked the third-worst (Glooble).

Night 2, I tracked Glooble (for realz), Cuzz roleblocked Eevee to set him up as untrustworthy, and cayvie ninja-killed Robz.

Night 3, we made Cuzz bulletproof, killed Glooble, and roleblocked ashersky.

And that, as they say, is that!  PINL.

[Voltgloss]

Was there a speccy QT?  I'm curious to read it, if so.

Our scum QT is http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/5FcRxRVekTV.

[Voltgloss]

Oh, and we doctored cayvie Night 1, because cayvie surviving Night 1 means her team wins 

[cayvie]

we got hilariously lucky night 1, but i think the setup was pretty biased toward us to begin with!

idk though, if we were behind going into n3, we could have been massacred.

[Eevee]

town had no chance here, sigh.

[ashersky]

I'm sorry Galz, I can't hear you over the roar of our victory 

Good game all.  Props to my fellow scummates.  Here's the setup.

1.  jo told us ahead of time that all townies had the same rotating Power Role.  We knew everyone started as Doctor, but didn't know subsequent roles until you all did.

2.  Each night, we could have one player submit the scum nightkill; one player perform the town's power role; and one player roleblock someone else.

3.  We also had a "bonus" each night to mitigate the town's power roles.  Night 1, our killer could make two kill commands.  Night 2, our killer was a ninja.  Night 3, we couldn't perform a Vig kill, but instead could make one person bulletproof.

Night 1, we targeted the two worst lurkers (Archetype and shraeye) as being the least likely town doctor targets, and fortuitously roleblocked the third-worst (Glooble).

Night 2, I tracked Glooble (for realz), Cuzz roleblocked Eevee to set him up as untrustworthy, and cayvie ninja-killed Robz.

Night 3, we made Cuzz bulletproof, killed Glooble, and roleblocked ashersky.

And that, as they say, is that!  PINL.

Didn't your extras each night make town's powers useless?  Double kill beats doc as the doctoring only blocks the first kill, no matter how many docs targeted the same kill target, ninja defeats tracker no matter what, and bulletproof beats vig, unless it only stops one shot?  Tough game for town...

[Voltgloss]

Didn't your extras each night make town's powers useless?  Double kill beats doc as the doctoring only blocks the first kill, no matter how many docs targeted the same kill target, ninja defeats tracker no matter what, and bulletproof beats vig, unless it only stops one shot?  Tough game for town...

I'm not sure whether multiple doc protections vs. two kills would result in a death or not.  As it was, we took the chance of spreading out the kills and got lucky there.

Ninja defeats tracker... sort of.  Someone tracking the ninja gets a "they targeted no one" result.  By that time, everyone had claimed to be a tracker, so a "they targeted no one" result is in and of itself suspicious.

Bulletproof was only a one-shot bulletproof.

[jotheonah]

I'm sorry Galz, I can't hear you over the roar of our victory 

Good game all.  Props to my fellow scummates.  Here's the setup.

1.  jo told us ahead of time that all townies had the same rotating Power Role.  We knew everyone started as Doctor, but didn't know subsequent roles until you all did.

2.  Each night, we could have one player submit the scum nightkill; one player perform the town's power role; and one player roleblock someone else.

3.  We also had a "bonus" each night to mitigate the town's power roles.  Night 1, our killer could make two kill commands.  Night 2, our killer was a ninja.  Night 3, we couldn't perform a Vig kill, but instead could make one person bulletproof.

Night 1, we targeted the two worst lurkers (Archetype and shraeye) as being the least likely town doctor targets, and fortuitously roleblocked the third-worst (Glooble).

Night 2, I tracked Glooble (for realz), Cuzz roleblocked Eevee to set him up as untrustworthy, and cayvie ninja-killed Robz.

Night 3, we made Cuzz bulletproof, killed Glooble, and roleblocked ashersky.

And that, as they say, is that!  PINL.

Didn't your extras each night make town's powers useless?  Double kill beats doc as the doctoring only blocks the first kill, no matter how many docs targeted the same kill target, ninja defeats tracker no matter what, and bulletproof beats vig, unless it only stops one shot?  Tough game for town...

Every townie was a PR. The powers were all designed to mitigate that advantage without totally cancelling it out. 2 night kills because the odds are at least one would be doctored. One BP scum, but the many town viges could still kill either of the others.

Also, scum would lose powers as they died - first the roleblock, than the town power.


HERE IS THE FULL SETUP (this version has the SK I was going to add if more people showed up):

BM VI setup

All towns are rotating power roles and they all have the same power role at the same time

Night 1: Doctor
Night 2: Tracker
Night 3: Vigilante
Night 4: Double Voter
Night 5: Roleblocker
Night 6: Inventor (each person can choose to create a doc, vig, RB, or cop device)
Night 7: Cop
Night 8: Jester

Mafia have three members:

Each night they choose
-1 to get the same power as the town
-1 to perform the kill, with a benefit that offsets the town's power for the night
Night 1: Extra night kill
Night 2: Ninja kill
Night 3: Bulletproof
Night 4: Lynchproof
Night 5: All 3 scum can perform the kill (but they have to target the same person)
Night 6: Can target someone to steal any inventions they would recieve
Night 7: Investigation Immune
Night 8: All mafia become Jesters, but they are hated so take one less vote to lynch
-1 Roleblocker

1 Serial Killer
-Can choose each night whether to be BP, LP the NEXT day, or II. Can use each a maximum of twice in a row.

PMS:

You are a Town Rotating Power Role. At the start of each day you will be told what your power role is for that night. Tonight, Night 1, you will be a doctor. You can target one player and if that player is targeted fo a night kill they will survive.

You win when only town-aligned players remain.




You are a Mafia Goon. Your scummates ar X and X. You get to know the secret of the setup, of which the TOWN IS UNAWARE. They are all power roles, but a different power role each night. Night 1, they will all be Doctors.

You have 3 mafia roles between the three of you, that you may divy up each night. One of you will be a roleblocker. One of you will have whatever power the town has. One of you will perform the factional kill, with a bonus that counteracts, to some degree, the town's power roles. Night 1's bonus is an extra nightkill. The person selected for this role may target two people.
When 1 member of your team dies, the roleblocker power will be eliminated. When 2 members are dead, the town power will be eliminated.



You are a Serial Killer. Each night you may choose someone in the town to kill.

Something very strange is going on in this game with the town's roles, and if you can figure it out it may help you with a choice you will have to make AT THE START OF EACH NIGHT PHASE.  You will select whether to be Bulletproof, Investigation Immune, Lynchproof the following day, have a Strongman kill, or have a Ninja kill. You may not make the same selection more than twice in a row.


The other nights would have been pretty fun. I probably should have done more math to figure out how many nights the game would actually last and tailored the setup accordingly, but I was expecting you to catch at least one scum.

[jotheonah]

Was there a speccy QT?  I'm curious to read it, if so.

Our scum QT is http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/5FcRxRVekTV.

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/eawMCeXvMEN

[Cuzz]

Oh totally missed the end of this somehow. Yeah scum was a bit OP in this setup, but we had to get a bit lucky too: both N1 kills going through, and lynching town first three days in a row.

Bastard games are fun though. Thanks for hosting joth!