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wandering star owns me with Mint
« on: September 26, 2012, 03:56:50 pm »
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I thought I was cool, KC/Minting a Platinum on turn 10ish. But then this happened:

‎... ... ... and plays the King's Court a third time.
... ... ... ... and plays a Mint.
... ... ... ... ... revealing a Platinum and gaining another one.
... ... ... ... ... ... revealing a Watchtower.
... ... ... ... ... ... putting the Platinum on the deck.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... times three
... ... and plays the King's Court a third time.
... ... ... and plays a Native Village.
... ... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
... ... ... and plays the Native Village again.
... ... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
... ... ... and plays the Native Village a third time.
... ... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
wandering star plays a Native Village.
... getting +2 actions.
... picking up 3 cards from the Native Village mat.

Unfortunately I forgot Council Room doesn't quite exist any more and didn't save the log, but he ended up winning, in a KC/Margrave game where my deck got clogged with Platinums. Fun stuff.
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 04:45:00 pm »
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Happened to have the game cached so I'll put it up here (as my first post ever?):

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201209/26/game-20120926-125058-1be765bf.html

For reference:

cards in supply: Bazaar, Colony, Fairgrounds, Harvest, King's Court, Margrave, Mint, Monument, Native Village, Nobles, Platinum, and Watchtower

We both took very similar strategies, which was something to the effect of:

1) Open with a Watchtower-like engine with native village support to boost us through the early stages of the game
2) Buy a Mint to help clear our deck of coppers, and also buy a Margrave, which sort of works counter to the Watchtower
3) Transition to some hybrid money-KC deck which draws a lot of cards, plays a lot of actions and mints a lot of Platinums

I thought about annotating the game like theory's old articles because I used to find it so amazing to watch back in the day, but our strategies are very similar so I'm not sure it'd be that informative.

ycz6 bought his mint fairly early on and trashed 3 coppers with it; I waited until I could draw more cards and bought a few more engine parts. With that said, I thought I was pretty dead in the middle too and just stuck around long enough to make a comeback. I'm not sure how much luck played a role at the end in being able to consistently reach big turns.
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 04:46:10 pm »
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lol, what an amusing way to draw the 3 top-decked Platinums! Depending on the hand-size, simply playing the Watchtower would have done the same thing.
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 04:59:42 pm »
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At the time, I think I had drawn my entire deck (or perhaps my entire deck minus a few cards), so Watchtower wasn't an option. Actually, right after I minted coppers, I ran out of money and did the same trick with silver:

... ... and plays the King's Court a third time.
... ... ... and plays a Mint.
... ... ... ... revealing a Silver and gaining another one.
... ... ... ... ... revealing a Watchtower.
... ... ... ... ... putting the Silver on the deck.
... ... ... and plays the Mint again.
... ... ... ... revealing a Silver and gaining another one.
... ... ... ... ... revealing a Watchtower.
... ... ... ... ... putting the Silver on the deck.
... ... ... and plays the Mint a third time.
... ... ... ... revealing a Silver and gaining another one.
... ... ... ... ... revealing a Watchtower.
... ... ... ... ... putting the Silver on the deck.
... and plays the King's Court a third time.
... ... and plays a Native Village.
... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
... ... and plays the Native Village again.
... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
... ... and plays the Native Village a third time.
... ... ... getting +2 actions.
... ... ... drawing a card and placing it on the Native Village mat.
wandering star plays a Native Village.
... getting +2 actions.
... picking up 3 cards from the Native Village mat.
wandering star plays 4 Silvers.
wandering star buys a Platinum.

The Platinum trick was used the turn after that.
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 05:02:07 pm »
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Very nice. Welcome to the board!
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2012, 09:30:24 pm »
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This is also a good example of a certain sign of doom: switching to Fairgrounds in an engine game hoping opponent stalls out as ycz6 did on turn 15 (this also can apply to Duchy).
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Re: wandering star owns me with Mint
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 02:42:28 am »
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This is also a good example of a certain sign of doom: switching to Fairgrounds in an engine game hoping opponent stalls out as ycz6 did on turn 15 (this also can apply to Duchy).
I often see it in Minion games when the Province split is 2-2 or something. Once you switch to Duchies in a trimmed down Minion deck, it becomes increasingly hard to buy Provinces. I often like to hold off the Duchy a little more and try to squeeze in an extra Province or two before we both drop to lowly Estates. Not only is a Province worth 2 Duchies, the 1 less space it takes may be critical.
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