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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2012, 03:14:08 pm »
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I call duchies "Damn, didn't have enough for a province".
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2012, 04:45:30 pm »
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2012, 04:49:56 pm »
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"The autumn leafs, begin to fall..."
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2012, 05:21:22 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2012, 05:27:21 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.

I didn't even know that there was something I didn't get until now.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2012, 05:28:00 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.
And I didn't get it for about 3 minutes after reading this, and thinking about the thread title, etc.  Then the light dawned.  Very clever.

In my defense, I've never won a Princess, so I just ignored the artwork on the card.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 05:29:50 pm by SwitchedFromStarcraft »
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2012, 06:57:20 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.
And I didn't get it for about 3 minutes after reading this, and thinking about the thread title, etc.  Then the light dawned.  Very clever.

In my defense, I've never won a Princess, so I just ignored the artwork on the card.

And I still don't get it :P
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2012, 06:58:25 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.
And I didn't get it for about 3 minutes after reading this, and thinking about the thread title, etc.  Then the light dawned.  Very clever.

In my defense, I've never won a Princess, so I just ignored the artwork on the card.

And I still don't get it :P

Dwharfs.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2012, 07:07:42 pm »
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http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg146659#msg146659

Ok, I saw that yesterday, didn't get it, and just moved on... but I just now got it... awesome.
And I didn't get it for about 3 minutes after reading this, and thinking about the thread title, etc.  Then the light dawned.  Very clever.

In my defense, I've never won a Princess, so I just ignored the artwork on the card.

And I still don't get it :P

Dwharfs.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! ROLF....almost.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2012, 07:30:53 pm »
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Here's one English perspective on some of the words that are proving controversial.

Mountebank: MOUNT-e-bank
Duke: Dewk (dew as in the moisture on grass in the morning)
Hovel: ho-vul (ho as in hot, not as in hoe)
Wharf: Worf

I tend to leave the plurals as they are: "not 4 Goons again!"
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2012, 10:15:13 pm »
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Yeah, I definitely don't say "Goonses".

BTW I agree with all of those pronunciations except Hovel.  I say HU-VEL.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 10:16:35 pm by aaron0013 »
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2012, 01:14:44 am »
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Yeah, I definitely don't say "Goonses".

BTW I agree with all of those pronunciations except Hovel.  I say HU-VEL.

Whether one says it or not isn't really important.  Pluralizing proper nouns is annoying, but ends up that way.

What if aliens some how copied the city of Brussels?  You'd have two Brusselses, not two Brussels. (In English.)

Or put it another way.  One Megan Fox.  Cloned?  Two Megan Foxs (not Foxes).
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2012, 01:48:28 am »
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What if aliens some how copied the city of Brussels?  You'd have two Brusselses, not two Brussels. (In English.)

Or put it another way.  One Megan Fox.  Cloned?  Two Megan Foxs (not Foxes).
These seem to contradict each other.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2012, 02:55:20 am »
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What if aliens some how copied the city of Brussels?  You'd have two Brusselses, not two Brussels. (In English.)

Or put it another way.  One Megan Fox.  Cloned?  Two Megan Foxs (not Foxes).
These seem to contradict each other.

My point is the proper noun doesn't change to suit what we think is proper.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2012, 12:09:59 am »
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The correct form is Megan Foxen.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2012, 01:18:50 am »
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On the whole pluralisation thing... Death Cart says hi.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2012, 01:19:56 am »
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The correct form is Megan Foxen.

Megan Vixen?
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2012, 01:20:09 am »
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On the whole pluralisation thing... Death Cart says hi.

Death Carts.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2012, 11:43:28 am »
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So here's one reason to think of all the cards as nouns, not proper nouns: THEME.

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You are a monarch, like your parents before you, a ruler, of a small pleasant kingdom of rivers and evergreens. Unlike your parents... You want a Dominion!... To do this you will hire minions, construct buildings, spruce up your castle, and fill your treasury.

"I have multiple City cards in my deck" is not thematic. "I have multiple Cities in my Dominion!" is more thematic and more fun. "I have multiple Citys!" is just silly (or is it Cityes?). Getting into the theme, the capitalization is for emphasis and importance (in the spirit of historical excessive capitalization of common nouns) of the things you own in your (imaginary) dominion, not to denote a name of a playing card on your kitchen table.

[In the MTG case, Cities of Brass does not mean multiple City of Brass cards or multiple cities that are named City of Brass, but you own lands which have cities made of brass on them. And they're important. With capitalization for emphasis and normal pluralization, it's all about the THEME!]

In my Dominion I build Cities and Wharves and Embassies, hire Goons and Nobles and Smithies and Thieves, and clear out infestations of Rats and rebuild Ruins. And every person, place, and animal is important to becoming the dominant monarch.

The fact that Donald views Ratses and Ruinses as the correct plurals just means he's not getting into what little theme there is when he plays (or he's secretly role playing as Gollum and Dominion is really set in Middle Earth).
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2012, 11:48:13 am »
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The fact that Donald views Ratses and Ruinses as the correct plurals

He doesn't - read Death Cart.
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2012, 11:58:00 am »
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The fact that Donald views Ratses and Ruinses as the correct plurals

He doesn't - read Death Cart.

It really is Ruinses. Filthy rotten ruinses. We hates them!

Am I missing something? ???
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2012, 12:02:31 pm »
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The fact that Donald views Ratses and Ruinses as the correct plurals

He doesn't - read Death Cart.

It really is Ruinses. Filthy rotten ruinses. We hates them!

Am I missing something? ???

Well he SAYS that, but when it comes to actually printing official cards:

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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2012, 12:12:26 pm »
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Huh, I didn't notice that!
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Re: Pronunciations and plurals
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2012, 12:18:44 pm »
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The fact that Donald views Ratses and Ruinses as the correct plurals just means he's not getting into what little theme there is when he plays (or he's secretly role playing as Gollum and Dominion is really set in Middle Earth).
You're spouting nonsense.

The fact that I view Ruinses as "correct" means I know what style guides tell you to do when pluralizing proper nouns. If you find this suspicious, consider the expression, "keeping up with the Joneses."

Outside of edited material, whatever people do is "correct" - no-one is the arbiter of correct English.
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