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[Watno]

And what exactly is that additional  contrary evidence you're waiting for? Another cop investigating O?
As explained above, I hardly see any danger O hits town if we tell him to target Young Nick, because one of those two most probably is scum. There is the danger of him being blocked, but I don't think we have had anyone being except by O himself, and we lynched a Mafia Joat already. So I think thats not exactly likely. We have also lynched an SK and a pseudo-SK-thingy, so someone being bulletproof is highly unlikely too.
Even if O is town, and mafia has a roleblock, there's no way O's kill will ever get through, since Mafia would know he's telling the truth.
So that would be enough for me to lynch O tomorrow if there's no extra kill tomorrow.

[O]

with a bit more consensus i'd be happy to.

CARD-CLAIM. How much more consensus do you need?

If we really think the best thing is for O to shoot tonight, then I think it might be time to make certain info public (to avoid a misfire). If the other people who have that info agree, please indicate that. If you disagree, don't respond to this comment at all.

I'm sorry I'm not on 24/7?


I'm still not sure why one of me/YN is scum. I found him scummy.. but I've been wrong before, and I see little compelling evidence.

My card is Harem.

[jotheonah]

Are you sure that's your card and not O1's card?

[O]

Yes, it's my card and not O1's card (who I can't reveal to you). made me do a double-take though.

[Axxle]

Idea!

Give the wine to Young Nick, Young Nick gives it to eHunt, we confirm eHunt as town.

Mafia can kill to mess it up but I think it's a decent plan though.

[Axxle]

Idea!

Give the wine to Young Nick, Young Nick gives it to eHunt, we confirm eHunt as town.

Mafia can kill to mess it up but I think it's a decent plan though.

I mean YN as town.

[Young Nick]

with a bit more consensus i'd be happy to.

CARD-CLAIM. How much more consensus do you need?

If we really think the best thing is for O to shoot tonight, then I think it might be time to make certain info public (to avoid a misfire). If the other people who have that info agree, please indicate that. If you disagree, don't respond to this comment at all.

I'm sorry I'm not on 24/7?


I'm still not sure why one of me/YN is scum. I found him scummy.. but I've been wrong before, and I see little compelling evidence.

My card is Harem.

This...this is kind of confusing. This might sound crazy, but would people be willing to claim card costs?

[shraeye]

with a bit more consensus i'd be happy to.

CARD-CLAIM. How much more consensus do you need?

If we really think the best thing is for O to shoot tonight, then I think it might be time to make certain info public (to avoid a misfire). If the other people who have that info agree, please indicate that. If you disagree, don't respond to this comment at all.

I'm sorry I'm not on 24/7?


I'm still not sure why one of me/YN is scum. I found him scummy.. but I've been wrong before, and I see little compelling evidence.

My card is Harem.

This...this is kind of confusing. This might sound crazy, but would people be willing to claim card costs?

No.

[cayvie]

I think we all agree that it's very likely that one of O and YN is scum. So if O is town and has a vigshot, it must be YN who's scum. So O should vig him. If it's the other way round and O is the scum of the two, then he probably doesn't have the vig-shot and even if he does, he wouldn't use it on who we tell him to, especially if that target is scum.
So, when telling O who to kill, our premise for choosing the target must be that he is town, so YN must be scum, so that's the obvious choice.
Also if YN checks if Os cardclaim is true, what does this get us if we believe one of them is scum anyway?

what is the basis behind "one of YN and O must be scum"?

[Young Nick]

with a bit more consensus i'd be happy to.

CARD-CLAIM. How much more consensus do you need?

If we really think the best thing is for O to shoot tonight, then I think it might be time to make certain info public (to avoid a misfire). If the other people who have that info agree, please indicate that. If you disagree, don't respond to this comment at all.

I'm sorry I'm not on 24/7?


I'm still not sure why one of me/YN is scum. I found him scummy.. but I've been wrong before, and I see little compelling evidence.

My card is Harem.

This...this is kind of confusing. This might sound crazy, but would people be willing to claim card costs?

No.

Do explain?

[ehunt]

Stop claiming! I figured some stuff out. Phone post- back in five minutes.

[ehunt]

ok, i have a theory about the cards,part of which is speculative, part of which is almost surely correct.

i emphatically oppose any more claimage of any sort, except that I would like a full card claim from cuzz . I don't think this is that risky since he already has claimed some sort of power role. Does anyone disagree?

[ftl]

I've been prodded! Has it really been that long since I posted here? Oh well. Replacement is an empty threat, but getting myself modkilled seems like it wouldn't be nice for everyone else...

I have no idea who's scum between YN and O. I can't read O at all, but I'd be happy to hammer him because he's O if someone gets him to L-1

Vote: Young Nick because I looked at the last votecount and I think I trust some of the people on the YN wagon, so ima just sheep ehunt or something. I was sort of hoping to end up hammering someone, but I doubt I'll end up posting over the weekend and this day might get resolved before then with all this claiming going around

[jotheonah]

I think Axxle's wine plan is cute, but it would take too long to get into action.

[Cuzz]

ok, i have a theory about the cards,part of which is speculative, part of which is almost surely correct.

i emphatically oppose any more claimage of any sort, except that I would like a full card claim from cuzz . I don't think this is that risky since he already has claimed some sort of power role. Does anyone disagree?

I can't fathom how this would do any more damage than the info I've given already.

Steward.

[Axxle]

I think Axxle's wine plan is cute, but it would take too long to get into action.

It'll take what? Until tomorrow? Or has the wine been handed off already?

[Young Nick]

Yeah but we wouldn't be able to confirm ehunt until D6. That's like Thanksgiving far away.

[jotheonah]

exactly. That means keeping YN alive two more days even though tons of folks think he's scummy.

[Axxle]

Why are we so sure that one of O and YN is scum? Just because people have been saying it so much that you believe it's true?

[Axxle]

I think we all agree that it's very likely that one of O and YN is scum. So if O is town and has a vigshot, it must be YN who's scum. So O should vig him. If it's the other way round and O is the scum of the two, then he probably doesn't have the vig-shot and even if he does, he wouldn't use it on who we tell him to, especially if that target is scum.
So, when telling O who to kill, our premise for choosing the target must be that he is town, so YN must be scum, so that's the obvious choice.
Also if YN checks if Os cardclaim is true, what does this get us if we believe one of them is scum anyway?

what is the basis behind "one of YN and O must be scum"?

[yuma]

1. I am emphatically against mass card claiming in any form. If I participate in it, it will be because I am the only remaining player who is against it. Until then, No!

2. I don't think one of Young Nick or O is scum. I think Young Nick is scum. But combining them doesn't make any sense to me.

3. Softdeadline has come and gone. Do we need a new one or are we just going to dally on over into a no-lynch?

[cayvie]

3. Softdeadline has come and gone. Do we need a new one or are we just going to dally on over into a no-lynch?

Lynching O for having the most votes at soft deadline not an option, eh?

[yuma]

Not with 3 votes it isn't...

So, uh, at midnight, O had 3 votes, Young Nick had 2, and Shraeye had 2.

Despite my preferences, I don't think that's enough of a consensus to count for our "pre-lynch deadline lynch deadline" or whatever.

[cayvie]

You agree with me, then?

[yuma]

You agree with me, then?

I agree that O should not be mass voted because he had the highest 3 votes on him at that point. However, I have a feeling that even if he did, or even if someone else did like Young Nick... that this town would not go in that direction.... Ugh... But whatever, I am back to vote: Young Nick