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Threesies
« on: August 06, 2011, 04:01:57 am »
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Here are some threesies puzzles. What do the three cards have in common? It won't be something most or many Dominion cards share - #2 isn't "they all cost $4" - but will not necessarily be unique to those three cards.

1. Apothecary, Followers, Tournament
2. Coppersmith, Mining Village, Smithy
3. Bureaucrat, Harem, Navigator
4. Bridge, Curse, Horn of Plenty
5. Ambassador, Bag of Gold, Young Witch
6. City, Followers, Walled Village
7. Black Market, Possession, Watchtower
8. Curse, Followers, Harem
9. Ambassador, Fairgrounds, Mountebank
10. Counting House, Goons, Nobles
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 06:32:21 am »
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These are really hard!


7. These cards let you play cards that you don't have in your deck at the beginning of your turn?
9. These are all cards that give you a positive benefit to having curses in your deck?
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 07:06:42 am »
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2 - can be bought with silver to provide a turn 3 province.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 10:16:54 am »
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3. Bureaucrat - He works at the most boring place, Navigator - He works at the most lonely place, Harem - Those girls "work" at the best place!
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 05:24:37 pm »
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#1 - Cards that have 3 imperative (?) verbs?

Apothecary - reveal, put, put.
Followers - gain, gains, discards.
Tournament - reveal, gain, discard.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 05:47:52 pm »
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This is at least plausible, though it's shared with a few other cards:

4. They all have an unadulterated "0" coin symbol printed on them somewhere.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 05:58:21 pm »
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Not really something they have in common, but it makes them an interesting grouping of 3 cards:

8. This group of 3 cards represents 6 different card types with no duplicates (Curse, Treasure, Victory, Action, Attack, Prize). No other group of 3 cards matches or exceeds this feat.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2011, 06:11:05 pm »
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Out on a limb here:

10. Each card image has one person wearing a cloak.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2011, 06:21:55 pm »
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Not sure about this one either, since it's another fairly weak association shared with several other cards:

5. They all explicitly mention the Supply.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2011, 07:47:15 pm »
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7 - Black Market and Possession allow you to buy outside your own buy phase. The watchtower is the only other action card that you can play while buying outside your own buy phase (perhaps).

10 - Goons and Nobles cover all the possible + somethings seen on Dominion cards. Counting Houses ... show that the other actions put or gain rather than add, maybe?
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 08:49:41 pm »
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10:  All three cards have a VP symbol on them of a different size:  One large, one small and one in the art
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 01:12:49 am »
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DG got #2.
guided got #4 and #5.
Fangz got #9.
Kirian got #10.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 01:57:33 am »
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3. The art of each card features a character whose eyes are obscured in some way. (Trying to word it general enough to cover all 3: Navigator has one eye closed, presumably the other open, but hidden; the foremost Harem character's eye is obscured by the edge of the art; and the Bureaucrat's buddy on the right has his eyes closed.)
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2011, 08:35:40 am »
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Dawwww, I was actually most sure of my #8 answer, but I guess it's not what you were looking for.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 11:31:54 am »
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Lemme try again:

7. They are all cards that let you do things in phases other than when you would normally be able to do them. BM lets you buy and play treasures in the action phase, watchtower lets you move cards around in the buy phase, and possession lets you do things in the opponent's turn.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2011, 06:30:47 pm »
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Dawwww, I was actually most sure of my #8 answer, but I guess it's not what you were looking for.
Well, you're on the right track.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2011, 07:42:02 pm »
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Not really something they have in common, but it makes them an interesting grouping of 3 cards:

8. This group of 3 cards represents 6 different card types with no duplicates (Curse, Treasure, Victory, Action, Attack, Prize). No other group of 3 cards matches or exceeds this feat.

8. Each card has a type or combination of types that no other card has.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2011, 07:47:17 pm »
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1. All cards mention two other cards by name.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2011, 07:52:14 pm »
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3. They each have an animal name hidden in them: Bureaucrat, Harem, and Navigator.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2011, 08:15:57 pm »
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I have something that works for 6, but I fear it's far too common.  I'm going to put in spoiler some other cards that share the description I came up with: Militia, Ghost Ship, Conspirator, Minion, Scout, Goons, and probably more - it just seems way too common even if it is slightly interesting and non-obvious.

edit: New idea: They all have at least part of a tree that's still alive in the artwork. I count 6 other such cards in Alchemy, Prosperity, and Cornucopia (combined) and stopped looking.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2011, 08:28:56 pm »
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Not really something they have in common, but it makes them an interesting grouping of 3 cards:

8. This group of 3 cards represents 6 different card types with no duplicates (Curse, Treasure, Victory, Action, Attack, Prize). No other group of 3 cards matches or exceeds this feat.

8. Each card has a type or combination of types that no other card has.

This would be nice, but doesn't say Trusty Steed have the same types as followers? This would work if it were diadem though.

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Re: Threesies
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2011, 08:38:39 pm »
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Not really something they have in common, but it makes them an interesting grouping of 3 cards:

8. This group of 3 cards represents 6 different card types with no duplicates (Curse, Treasure, Victory, Action, Attack, Prize). No other group of 3 cards matches or exceeds this feat.

8. Each card has a type or combination of types that no other card has.

This would be nice, but doesn't say Trusty Steed have the same types as followers? This would work if it were diadem though.

Trusty Steed is Action-Prize and shares that typing with princess and bag of gold. Followers is Action-Attack-Prize and is unique. Diadem is also unique, however.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2011, 08:46:16 pm »
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3. They each have an animal name hidden in them: Bureaucrat, Harem, and Navigator.
That isn't what I was going for, but hey, look at that.

Razzishi got #1 and #8.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2011, 09:02:41 pm »
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Well there are a ton of other cards that would work here but

#3 These represent three different ways of giving you $2 to spend (action phase, buy phase, next turn).
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2011, 06:51:22 pm »
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6. Each card's function is equivalent to another card plus something else? (City, Walled Village = Village + more, Followers = Witch + more)
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2011, 07:11:08 pm »
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Hmm... could #7 be, more generally:
They allow you to do something at a time you wouldn't otherwise be able to do it: Black Market is the only way to buy a card during the action phase; Possession is the only way to choose which cards to play (etc.) on an opponent's turn; and Watchtower is the only Reaction you can reveal without having been attacked.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2011, 07:19:52 pm »
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#6 is a Carcassonne link. The city card art is similar to "Carcassonne: the City" (I had to google that). Follower is the name given to Carcassonne playing pieces. The walled village celebrated the Carcassonne anniversary.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2011, 07:47:51 pm »
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DG got #6. The other two seem hard so I am posting the answers.

1. Apothecary, Followers, Tournament - Each names two cards - Potion and Copper, Estate and Curse, Province and Duchy.
2. Coppersmith, Mining Village, Smithy - Each can get you a third turn Province (with Silver).
3. Bureaucrat, Harem, Navigator - These are illustrations of real people. Harem and Navigator are Valerie and Dale, and Bureaucrat is the artist, Matthias Catrein.
4. Bridge, Curse, Horn of Plenty - They all have a 0 coins symbol.
5. Ambassador, Bag of Gold, Young Witch - They each mention the supply.
6. City, Followers, Walled Village - They all relate to Carcassonne. Walled Village is a promo commemorating Carcassonne's 10th anniversary. The art for City was also used on a Carcassonne product, and Followers is what you call the meeples.
7. Black Market, Possession, Watchtower - These are the three cards with the longest FAQs. Maybe this would have been easier if Watchtower's was anywhere near as long as the other two.
8. Curse, Followers, Harem - Each has a unique combination of types - Curse, Action - Attack - Prize, and Treasure - Victory.
9. Ambassador, Fairgrounds, Mountebank - They all give you a use for Curses.
10. Counting House, Goons, Nobles - They all have the VP shield - Nobles has a normal one, Goons has it as a +1 ability for VP tokens, and Counting House has it in the art.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2011, 11:36:21 am »
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6. I'm not 100% certain but is it something to do with Carcasonne? I read somewhere that City has the same artwork as one of the Carcasonne expansions, and Walled Village is the promo that was released to celebrate the 10th anniversary of Carcasonne. Dunno about Followers though, because I'm not actually a Carcasonne player, but there may be a link there too?

Edit: Extra page fail.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2011, 12:40:05 pm »
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11. Wishing Well, Apothecary, Scrying Pool
12. Loan, Thief, Tournament
13. Upgrade, Pawn, Vault
14. Young Witch, Ironworks, Fishing Village
15. Hamlet, Princess, Monument
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2011, 01:09:55 pm »
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11. All draw a variable number of cards.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2011, 01:24:02 pm »
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12. Playing one of these cards can change who owns the Diadem card.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2011, 01:41:20 pm »
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guided got 11 right, although I was going for something more specific:  All draw a number of cards that is (usually) unknown to the player until after it's fully resolved.  By this wording, Apprentice, for example, would be excluded.  But still, same general idea.

ehunt:  Intriguing observation, but not what I was going for.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2011, 02:59:18 pm »
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13. They all have a castle in the original art. And they all have a (1) coin symbol. And they also have some kind of knight on them.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2011, 03:09:31 pm »
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15. They all have horseriders or at least horses on them
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2011, 03:13:28 pm »
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12. Their action depends on the revelation of another card... loan = treasure, thief = treasure, tournament = province. And their action could result in discarding a card.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2011, 03:21:03 pm »
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Adventurer got 15:  All the cards have a horse on them.  In Monument's case, the horses are statues.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2011, 01:58:06 pm »
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I guess we give up?

12. Each has a partially-obscured face on the card art.
13. Card art is viewed from a canted angle.
14. Shows 2 coin symbols within the text of the card.  I'd have liked to list three cards that have 3, but there are only two so far:  Bridge and Peddler.
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2011, 01:36:27 pm »
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14. Shows 2 coin symbols within the text of the card.  I'd have liked to list three cards that have 3, but there are only two so far:  Bridge and Peddler.

What about Quarry?
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Re: Threesies
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2011, 03:06:22 pm »
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14. Shows 2 coin symbols within the text of the card.  I'd have liked to list three cards that have 3, but there are only two so far:  Bridge and Peddler.

What about Quarry?

I wouldn't count the big 1 as "within the text of the card."  But it certainly does have 2 such symbols and thus fits with the three I named.  There are a couple others, too.
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