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chesskidnate

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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2012, 03:13:43 pm »
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Maybe Ironworks
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2012, 03:15:30 pm »
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What printed cards would you say have FBI?
Maybe Treasure Map? Though Warehouse/TMap is merely good, not game-warpingly dominant.

City.

City has many tactical decisions surrounding it, though. In general I think it makes games more interesting rather than less.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2012, 03:43:06 pm »
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What printed cards would you say have FBI?
Maybe Treasure Map? Though Warehouse/TMap is merely good, not game-warpingly dominant.

City.

City has many tactical decisions surrounding it, though. In general I think it makes games more interesting rather than less.

Particularly, deciding if you should buy out a pile to activate cities to level 2 or 3 for your opponents next turn is very tactical.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2012, 04:38:52 pm »
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Cities also don't do a whole lot on their own, and they don't help you buy more Cities, so straight rushing the City pile is not always a good idea even when it's a good card.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2012, 06:46:23 pm »
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I'm not sure I agree.  Generally City is strongest when there is a 3-4$ terminal you can buy lots of, allowing you to empty that pile and buy City every time you hit 5 while you wait.
I'm terrible at City though, I shouldn't be commenting.


Re: Lab - Labs don't really stack with themselves powerfully or do anything else to prevent flexibility in their strategy.  The cards I would consider FBI either stack with themselves in a way that cause FBI or prevent flexibility in strategy in a way that causes FBI : Fool's Gold's self stacking mechanic and JoaT's terminality and dead draw (combined with Silver flood that makes lining a village up with its terminality almost impossible).
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2012, 03:38:34 am »
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I'd say Stash/Scavenger and Watchtower/Feodum will be so good on boards that have them that every other combo will look laughable. Stash/Scavenger trumps Watchtower/Feodum of course

EDIT: Also Squire/any trasher/Goons (and watchtower can join in on the fun)
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2012, 01:46:30 pm »
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I'd say Stash/Scavenger and Watchtower/Feodum will be so good on boards that have them that every other combo will look laughable. Stash/Scavenger trumps Watchtower/Feodum of course

EDIT: Also Squire/any trasher/Goons (and watchtower can join in on the fun)

Stash/Scavenger really does look like it'll be a good number of turns faster than Chancellor/Stash, and that's already a rather devastating combo. Not sure I agree about Watchtower/Feodum, though.

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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2012, 05:14:54 pm »
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Courtyard plays very well with big money, but pretty bad with engines where you'd prefer a Smithy.
In money games, I have easily paid $5 for a Courtyard a bunch of times.

So when you're going money, you're going Courtyard (barring better money enablers) and at other times it's just a dead card in the kingdom.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2012, 07:38:34 pm »
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I'd say Stash/Scavenger and Watchtower/Feodum will be so good on boards that have them that every other combo will look laughable. Stash/Scavenger trumps Watchtower/Feodum of course

EDIT: Also Squire/any trasher/Goons (and watchtower can join in on the fun)

Stash/Scavenger really does look like it'll be a good number of turns faster than Chancellor/Stash, and that's already a rather devastating combo. Not sure I agree about Watchtower/Feodum, though.

Being able to buy 3 silvers for $4 is the definition of game warping.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2012, 11:55:03 pm »
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Silvers aren't that good.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2012, 12:16:50 am »
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Poor House looks like it might have FBI. Having said that, it seems like every set has one of those cards (Chapel, Treasure Map, City, IGG, etc.) when it comes out and we only later realize that it has a greater niche than we first anticipated. But still, Poor House, yeah.

And that IGG in the parenthetical hadn't been mentioned before.
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Re: FBI - Fancy Balance Issues
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2012, 06:18:10 am »
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Dunno, IGG is good more often than not.
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