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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #100 on: August 20, 2012, 03:29:34 pm »

Mod question:  Where's our Mod?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #101 on: August 20, 2012, 03:36:48 pm »

Reading about the set-up on Mafiascum. Mod clarification question. Can the Rolecop NK and investigate on the same night?

I have not had an opportunity to confirm this with yuma yet, but as backup mod I can state that in each of the other f:DS newbie games so far (M-I, M-II, M-VII) the Rolecop was able to both NK and investigate simultaneously.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #102 on: August 20, 2012, 03:42:41 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2012, 03:42:58 pm »

@volt: will we get a subject line change to signal setting, etc.?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2012, 03:43:40 pm »

Super unofficial vote count:

Robz (3): ashersky, Captain_Frisk, Eevee
O (1): Jorbles
Jorbles (1): Robz888

Not voting (4): Cuzz, Geolib, O, Morgim7
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #105 on: August 20, 2012, 03:43:50 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #106 on: August 20, 2012, 03:43:57 pm »

Unvote.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #107 on: August 20, 2012, 03:45:05 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
Rolefishing is not very pro-town.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2012, 03:45:15 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #109 on: August 20, 2012, 03:50:35 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
Rolefishing is not very pro-town.
I wasn't rolefishing...mostly since I didnt know what that is.  I can guess though.  Mostly just trying to stimulate some conversation.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2012, 03:52:22 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #111 on: August 20, 2012, 03:53:03 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?

Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #112 on: August 20, 2012, 03:53:47 pm »

Modifying the topic subject line is outside of my ability as backup mod, but I'll mention it to yuma.

What I can do is provide a votecount:

Vote Count 1-1

Robz888 (2): Eevee, Captain_Frisk
O (1): Jorbles

Not voting {6}: ashersky, Cuzz, GeoLib, Robz888, O, Morgrim7

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Lynch deadline: Monday, August 27, at noon forum time (EDT)

(Note also that I will be using purple text for my backup modposts, in contrast to yuma's using blue.)
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #113 on: August 20, 2012, 03:54:31 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?

Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?

Not a sincere one, no. I just mean, why should we have any motivation in our decision whatsoever other than trying to root out who is actually scum?
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2012, 03:56:56 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
Rolefishing is not very pro-town.
I wasn't rolefishing...mostly since I didnt know what that is.  I can guess though.  Mostly just trying to stimulate some conversation.
The only way Robz can answer that question (besides "I'm town") is by roleclaiming, which is hugely anti-town obviously. What other reason could there be?

@Robz
While that is kind of true, we also only got 1 power role (who died night 1), timchen went crazy, I'm generally a liability and scum just played masterfully. It's not really fair to say M VII was lost because you, Galzria and Frisk died first. That's not to say I dont like having you around, I do. But I  think going after lurkers is going to be better than going after new people.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #115 on: August 20, 2012, 03:58:29 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?

Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?

Not a sincere one, no. I just mean, why should we have any motivation in our decision whatsoever other than trying to root out who is actually scum?

Because, knowing that no town has ever killed a scum on Day 1, it's worthwhile keeping in mind a need to preserve quality town players.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #116 on: August 20, 2012, 04:03:07 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?

Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?

Not a sincere one, no. I just mean, why should we have any motivation in our decision whatsoever other than trying to root out who is actually scum?

Because, knowing that no town has ever killed a scum on Day 1, it's worthwhile keeping in mind a need to preserve quality town players.
In mafia VI, would you have guessed how awesome PPS was going to play?
I do agree we want to keep quality players around. But I think it's better to weed out lurkers than weed out new guys to accomplish that.

Unvote, shortest RVS ever.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #117 on: August 20, 2012, 04:06:22 pm »

Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.
Fair enough.  Unvote.

Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?

Because I'm not scum.

Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).

Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?

Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?

Not a sincere one, no. I just mean, why should we have any motivation in our decision whatsoever other than trying to root out who is actually scum?

Because, knowing that no town has ever killed a scum on Day 1, it's worthwhile keeping in mind a need to preserve quality town players.

So I guess us newbies can infer how you feel about our "quality."  Vote: Robz888.
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Re: Mafia X Signups - The Death of Donald X. Newbies Welcome
« Reply #118 on: August 20, 2012, 04:06:58 pm »

If we're going for lurkers. Vote: O
What does he have real life or something?
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« Reply #119 on: August 20, 2012, 04:10:26 pm »

If we're going for lurkers. Vote: O
What does he have real life or something?
He's active in other threads all the time, but he might just have not noticed this thing started already. It's been what, a couple of hours?

And just a warning about O's general playstyle, he is not known for being around with long constructive posts all the time..
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« Reply #120 on: August 20, 2012, 04:13:30 pm »

If we're going for lurkers. Vote: O
What does he have real life or something?

I don't think his lurking is egregious yet, but yeah let's at least prompt him into joining us.
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Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 1
« Reply #121 on: August 20, 2012, 04:14:13 pm »

Reading about the set-up on Mafiascum. Mod clarification question. Can the Rolecop NK and investigate on the same night?

I have not had an opportunity to confirm this with yuma yet, but as backup mod I can state that in each of the other f:DS newbie games so far (M-I, M-II, M-VII) the Rolecop was able to both NK and investigate simultaneously.
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Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 1
« Reply #122 on: August 20, 2012, 05:12:12 pm »

So, as we pass the midnight hour here in my location on the globe, and I prepare to turn in for the night, I leave you with a last newbie question: can you run down the best-case scenarios for the town?  I'm guessing it is:

Day 1: Lynch Mafia RoleCop
Night 1: Mafia Goon kills VT
Day 2: Lynch Mafia Goon

Am I missing anything on goals?
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Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 1
« Reply #123 on: August 20, 2012, 05:15:28 pm »

So, as we pass the midnight hour here in my location on the globe, and I prepare to turn in for the night, I leave you with a last newbie question: can you run down the best-case scenarios for the town?  I'm guessing it is:

Day 1: Lynch Mafia RoleCop
Night 1: Mafia Goon kills VT
Day 2: Lynch Mafia Goon

Am I missing anything on goals?
Night 1 the remaining mafia or his target is jailkept, or the target is doctored.

But uhm.. why are you asking this?
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Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 1
« Reply #124 on: August 20, 2012, 05:33:44 pm »

So, as we pass the midnight hour here in my location on the globe, and I prepare to turn in for the night, I leave you with a last newbie question: can you run down the best-case scenarios for the town?  I'm guessing it is:

Day 1: Lynch Mafia RoleCop
Night 1: Mafia Goon kills VT
Day 2: Lynch Mafia Goon

Am I missing anything on goals?
Night 1 the remaining mafia or his target is jailkept, or the target is doctored.

But uhm.. why are you asking this?

Curiosity.  Robz was complaining that there'd been no success on Day 1 to date.  I was thinking through the ideal.

I have also seen in other threads the lynch/no lynch argument for Day 1.  Any thoughts there?
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