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[ashersky]

Everyone seems to think mafia IV was the bomb, makes me sad for missing it and never even reading any of it. :/ Oh well, teaches me to never miss a game again!

I echo Robz, knowing some background would be nice.

So, a survey to all the new faces:
1) Any prior playing experience?
2) Have you read any of the games here, if yes, what games?
3) Does your role involve trying to kill all townies by orchestrating a night kill with your team mates?
4) If we were a mafia pair, which of us would do the kill tonight?

So I'm back from dinner, and ready to rejoin the fray.  So, on to questions!

1)  None.
2)  I have read some of the nose-stealing thread, thereby being forewarned of Robz and Eevee shenanigans.
3)  I think you missed a comma somewhere in there.
4)  As a newbie, I think if we were mafia, I would defer to you, since you are mafia, as noted by my previous vote.

[ashersky]

Everyone seems to think mafia IV was the bomb, makes me sad for missing it and never even reading any of it. :/ Oh well, teaches me to never miss a game again!

I echo Robz, knowing some background would be nice.

So, a survey to all the new faces:
1) Any prior playing experience?
2) Have you read any of the games here, if yes, what games?
3) Does your role involve trying to kill all townies by orchestrating a night kill with your team mates?
4) If we were a mafia pair, which of us would do the kill tonight?

Also, fishing for this much information so quickly is obvscum, right?

[Eevee]

2)  I have read some of the nose-stealing thread, thereby being forewarned of Robz and Eevee shenanigans.

What do you mean by this? We were both town, and Robz didn't post much at all before his early demise. I on the other hand lived until the end, which proved to be the town's demise because I'm bad at playing well.

Everyone seems to think mafia IV was the bomb, makes me sad for missing it and never even reading any of it. :/ Oh well, teaches me to never miss a game again!

I echo Robz, knowing some background would be nice.

So, a survey to all the new faces:
1) Any prior playing experience?
2) Have you read any of the games here, if yes, what games?
3) Does your role involve trying to kill all townies by orchestrating a night kill with your team mates?
4) If we were a mafia pair, which of us would do the kill tonight?

Also, fishing for this much information so quickly is obvscum, right?

Fishing for information of how you would play as mafia is obvscum? Sure..

[Jorbles]

Uhm 4) was a serious question. Answering "nice try" is like saying "don't you know I can't respond to this truthfully!?" How no one else is voting for Robz for his scumslip is beyond me, but personslly I'm happy I found his scum partner already.

Eevee, what slip was this? The Robz one.

...
Also, fishing for this much information so quickly is obvscum, right?

I don't think the sort of info being fished for is scummy. It'll probably help us in the long run as it makes lying harder.

[GeoLib]

Newb account here.

1. I've played the lame IRL version where you're in a circle and can't really do anything interesting.
2. I got interested after reading Donald X.'s Personman lynch on the tournament "discussion" forum. Then I started reading Mafia IX (Major Arcana) because it had just started. Haven't read any others. Not really sure I have time.
3. No
4. Is this a rules question? If so, doesn't either Mafia have the power to send in a NK? If they send in different ones then the most recent one stands yeah? If it's a "who would decide" question, then I suppose we would discuss...

Also, unvote: Robz. I don't like L-2 at RVS

[Eevee]

Main point of the questions is to get to know how you think. It does make future lying a bit harder which is another bonus, but mainly it's just a good starting to point on forming reads on guys I have not seen before. But you know, no worries, as Robz pointed out, one long post full of information and I'll move you to obvtown-category.

Meanwhile,I present you Robz being afraid of me catching him with a sneaky RVS question:

Robz, what would have been your least favorite role to receive in this game?

Easy. Vanilla Townie. You?

Oh and in case someone thinks I'm serious with this accusation.. only like 30%.

[Eevee]

@GeoLib
Yeah, one guy sends in the kill order. It does matter who it is though, because possible jailkeepers gonna possibly jailkeep.

(This question is kind of silly, but for example I liked how Jorbles thought it would be smart for mafia to hedge their bets a bit by having the goon do the kill instead of the rolecop.)

[GeoLib]

@GeoLib
Yeah, one guy sends in the kill order. It does matter who it is though, because possible jailkeepers gonna possibly jailkeep.

(This question is kind of silly, but for example I liked how Jorbles thought it would be smart for mafia to hedge their bets a bit by having the goon do the kill instead of the rolecop.)

Oh. That makes sense. So let's say you and Robz both send in NKs. Whoever sent his last is the one who is considered to be doing the NK, and if they're jailed then it doesn't happen, correct?

Also, I think jorbles, wasn't saying that it was better for you to hedge your bets. More like, "well the rolecop gets to do the investigating, so the goon should get to do the killing." only fair. Is that the strategy you'll be following?

[ashersky]

2)  I have read some of the nose-stealing thread, thereby being forewarned of Robz and Eevee shenanigans.

What do you mean by this? We were both town, and Robz didn't post much at all before his early demise. I on the other hand lived until the end, which proved to be the town's demise because I'm bad at playing well.

Really not much was meant by it, other than I recall early thread back and forth and your names stuck out.  I guess you're memorable.

[Eevee]

@GeoLib
Yeah, one guy sends in the kill order. It does matter who it is though, because possible jailkeepers gonna possibly jailkeep.

(This question is kind of silly, but for example I liked how Jorbles thought it would be smart for mafia to hedge their bets a bit by having the goon do the kill instead of the rolecop.)

Oh. That makes sense. So let's say you and Robz both send in NKs. Whoever sent his last is the one who is considered to be doing the NK, and if they're jailed then it doesn't happen, correct?

Also, I think jorbles, wasn't saying that it was better for you to hedge your bets. More like, "well the rolecop gets to do the investigating, so the goon should get to do the killing." only fair. Is that the strategy you'll be following?

I dont understand why both mafia members would ever send in a kill. Like, they agree on a target and a killer and then that person sends in the order?
But personally, I think the guy who is less likely to be jailkept should do it. And generally I would assume that would be the newer player, because power roles like to target people they deem most influential to the game.

@me being memorable

Must be the cute avatar.

[ashersky]

So which roles are in this game?

[Jorbles]

So which roles are in this game?

There's 2 Mafia (one of which is a Role Cop) plus 1 or 2 of the following (Cop, Doctor, Jailkeeper).

[GeoLib]

We will be using the basic 2 of 4 setup.

The setup is
1 Mafia rolecop - investigates town roles
1 Mafia goon
5 townies
A random 2 of:
1 Cop - investigates target's alignment
1 Doctor - prevents target from being night killed
1 Jailkeeper - target can't perform night actions nor be killed
1 Townie

So we've got 2 scum (1 Rolecop), 5 or 6 VTs, and 1 or 2 power roles.

[ashersky]

So which roles are in this game?

There's 2 Mafia (one of which is a Role Cop) plus 1 or 2 of the following (Cop, Doctor, Jailkeeper).

I get that much.  Which one is Robz?

[Cuzz]

Ok, so maybe the random voting thing is not so helpful.

Unvote: Jorbles

For you more experienced folk, though, what are some of the strategies for going about this? What should I look for in people's posts? Is Eevee talking too much? Is that suspicious? Is anyone being too quiet? Is that suspicious? Does anyone have valid suspicions with evidence that they'd like to share yet? Can I trust any of you scum?

[GeoLib]

For you more experienced folk, though, what are some of the strategies for going about this? What should I look for in people's posts? Is Eevee talking too much? Is that suspicious? Is anyone being too quiet? Is that suspicious? Does anyone have valid suspicions with evidence that they'd like to share yet? Can I trust any of you scum?

Well I'm not experienced, but O hasn't said anything since being the first to confirm. Maybe he's asleep or something. Would a rundown of timezones be helpful to narrow the scope of potential future excuses? Also, does anyone know of a good source (like a mafiascum article) on Day 1 behavior. It seems unlikely to me that scum will be so careless as to out themselves without some clever prodding.

[Eevee]

Day 1 is generally impossible. First we'll joke around a bit, then someone will say something someone else is going to pick on, eventually we'll form a wagon which then fizzles when the accusee claims a power role. We hastily find some other target, he claims VT, we go "sweet!" and lynch him, he does flip VT. Then we analyze the wagon/night kill tomorrow and hopefully start finding scum.

[Eevee]

For you more experienced folk, though, what are some of the strategies for going about this? What should I look for in people's posts? Is Eevee talking too much? Is that suspicious? Is anyone being too quiet? Is that suspicious? Does anyone have valid suspicions with evidence that they'd like to share yet? Can I trust any of you scum?

Well I'm not experienced, but O hasn't said anything since being the first to confirm. Maybe he's asleep or something. Would a rundown of timezones be helpful to narrow the scope of potential future excuses? Also, does anyone know of a good source (like a mafiascum article) on Day 1 behavior. It seems unlikely to me that scum will be so careless as to out themselves without some clever prodding.

The problem with any article is that any scum player can read it as well, and act accordingly. Just think for yourself!

I'm GMT+2, but my sleep schedule is so wacky it almost doesn't matter.

[GeoLib]

Day 1 is generally impossible. First we'll joke around a bit, then someone will say something someone else is going to pick on, eventually we'll form a wagon which then fizzles when the accusee claims a power role. We hastily find some other target, he claims VT, we go "sweet!" and lynch him, he does flip VT. Then we analyze the wagon/night kill tomorrow and hopefully start finding scum.

Well that's rather bleak...

PDT (GMT -8, I think)

Next week will be moving to EDT (GMT -5, I think)

[Robz888]

Regarding Day 1, in no game of Forum Mafia (regular, bastard or otherwise) have we lynched a scum-aligned player on Day 1.

I dare us to do better.

[ashersky]

Would a rundown of timezones be helpful to narrow the scope of potential future excuses?

I'm GMT+3, I think.  That is, I'm three hours ahead of GMT, seven hours ahead of Eastern US.

[Jorbles]

I'm also in PDT.

[ashersky]

Regarding Day 1, in no game of Forum Mafia (regular, bastard or otherwise) have we lynched a scum-aligned player on Day 1.

I dare us to do better.

Softclaim scum?  Unvote.  Vote: Robz888.

[Cuzz]

I'm in EDT.

[GeoLib]

Reading about the set-up on Mafiascum. Mod clarification question. Can the Rolecop NK and investigate on the same night?