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[anlin_wang]

Opening Trading Post over Vault with Grand Markets?
Buying SCOUT?
I am so confused.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201208/14/game-20120814-123909-0fa0470a.html

[polonkus]

So I take it you were phillyfan?
Why did you buy bank? You were trashing money, you have no card draw and you don't want to play copper anyway.
Also, on turn 10 your bank misplay cost you a GM.

I think your opponent got a little lucky with the Scout/Trading Post, but they did pick up a vault turn 5.
I also think you should have waited to buy conspirators till after you'd grabbed some peddlers/GMs.

[Kelume]

Agreed with the above. Also Trading Post is a very strong open, even with Grand Markets; the benefit of Vault is that you can discard your coppers and estates to still get money, but since he was trashing Estates (all of which were gone by t6) for Silvers and Coppers and you were only trashing Coppers, he still had money on non-Vault turns and was able to make his cantrips line up better. Your loan also missed the initial shuffle so by turn 10 he had 2 coppers and no estates compared to your 4 coppers and 3 estates.

The scout was a terrible buy but it worked out on turn 6 and after that was still more useful than an Estate.

[mnavratil]

Yeah, scout wasn't terribly helpful, but what else do you buy there? Maybe a conspirator would be okay, but at that point you don't have any way of activating it yet. Don't really want all that much silver because the deck is mostly going to be cantrips. Also, in this regard scout is somewhat more helpful than usual because it at least can help keep the cantrip chain in place while helping to activate conspirators.

[DG]

The scout is always assumed to be awful because you never take enough green cards into hand. In this game your opponent finds an alternative use for it, rearranging the top of his deck so his grand markets and peddlers are drawn before the treasures. Compared to silver it is a faster cycling card, it can help link loans to copper, it can help start conspirator chains, and it helps draw green cards into hand for a vault. His end game deck is likely to be peddlers, grand markets, both clogged by provinces, so the scout will get long term use too. With all that, is it better than silver here? Probably about as good.

[RisingJaguar]

He also finds alternate uses for scout as it lowers the price of peddlers and activation of conspirator. 

The problem with this set is it looks like everything works together but it doesn't.  You can't buy grand markets quickly without assistance (vault, trading post) so early turn buys aren't going to be great.  Without multiple plays of actions available (no grand markets and repeated conspirator plays), peddlers are going to be really hard to acquire.  Now you have no cantrips to purchase to activate your conspirator, you now have $2 terminals for awhile.  The solution to this is scout and not silver with $4. 

Well he never really attempts to go the conspirator route (probably should have at some point, although 3 piles was on the brain), and you can see the scout helping two fold on T6.  It grabs an estate AND allows him to purchase a peddler. 

It isn't a game changer, but it definitely is much more useful than ANOTHER silver in a deck with trading post and trying to reach peddlers/GM. 

Re: Bank buy, that should have been a peddler.