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[Axxle]

insomniac claim now tbh because waiting till you're at L-1 is just going to derp us into nolynch.

And we derp to a massclaim.

My claim won't be believed but I am a doctor. I was tryin to discern whether or not that makes eHunt a liar or not that's why I haven't revealed.

Or, not.

Vote: eHunt

Insom's reveal is much more town here.

[shraeye]

I suppose two doctors is possible; the ninja doctor is also pro-town, right?  But the mafia also have  a doctor.  But I'm not sure I believe this is true.  Odd that Insomniac didn't object to the card claim by ehunt, and just said that he was also doctor.  It wouldn't make ehunt a liar unless Insomniac also had the 10 of Wands.  And if Insomniac has a 10 of Wands, he should have had to wait any time at all to know and tell us all that ehunt has lied.  So you're correct, Insomniac.  I don't believe you; my vote will stay on you.

[Galzria]

Fascinating. Insomniac, need that card claim please. For now, back to my scum read: Vote: eHunt

[Insomniac]

I'm the eight of wands. (ninja doctor)

[Axxle]

doctor is the go-to fakeclaim of choice.

Truth.  It's very hard to verify.

Two quick responses:
1. note that including the card name is an important part of my claim (see "named townie" on mafiascum wiki for theory).
2. i agree that doctor is a good fakeclaim if there's one scumfaction. with multiple scumfactions it doesn't matter,  claimants are going to get nightkilled. a scumfaction will say, ok, either ehunt is telling the truth, or he's lying in which case he's on the other scumfaction. either way he's a good kill. i'm very unlikely to survive the night.

Scum don't really care that much about doctors in a group this size unless there's a revealed detective power role.

[Axxle]

doctor is the go-to fakeclaim of choice.

Truth.  It's very hard to verify.

Two quick responses:
1. note that including the card name is an important part of my claim (see "named townie" on mafiascum wiki for theory).
2. i agree that doctor is a good fakeclaim if there's one scumfaction. with multiple scumfactions it doesn't matter,  claimants are going to get nightkilled. a scumfaction will say, ok, either ehunt is telling the truth, or he's lying in which case he's on the other scumfaction. either way he's a good kill. i'm very unlikely to survive the night.

Scum don't really care that much about doctors in a group this size unless there's a revealed detective power role.

And in a group where most people are power roles.

[Eevee]

So I'm the only one who thinks Insomniac is scummier of the two?

[Robz888]

Agree with people saying two doctors both outed Day 1, no way. I get no scum read from Insomniac--I'm on Axxle right now--but was on ehunt before that. So back to ehunt. Vote: ehunt

[O]

So I'm the only one who thinks Insomniac is scummier of the two?

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

[Galzria]

I suppose two doctors is possible; the ninja doctor is also pro-town, right?  But the mafia also have  a doctor.  But I'm not sure I believe this is true.  Odd that Insomniac didn't object to the card claim by ehunt, and just said that he was also doctor.  It wouldn't make ehunt a liar unless Insomniac also had the 10 of Wands.  And if Insomniac has a 10 of Wands, he should have had to wait any time at all to know and tell us all that ehunt has lied.  So you're correct, Insomniac.  I don't believe you; my vote will stay on you.

He wouldn't have come out and said "LOL OBVLIE" right away because it outs himself unnecessarily. He made his claim now, at L-3, so there would be time to react. If he were scum, why the hell would he make this claim? To get eHunt lynched? That's retarded. If he were scum he would kill eHunt at night and make a more believable claim today. What do you think happens if eHunt flips town Doc?

A) Insomniac gets NK'd because he's Doc #2,
B) Insomniac lives because he's scum and gets lynched tomorrow,
C) Insomniac is scum but gets NK'd by the other faction because they don't know if he's A or B.

This would be a retarded claim for a scum Insomniac to make.

Now, does town Doctor Insomniac make eHunt a liar? No, but it makes it damn more likely.

[shraeye]

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

I have no idea what this means.  O, you use derp a lot, though it is not a word.  What does it mean?

[yuma]

vote: ehunt

[O]

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

I have no idea what this means.  O, you use derp a lot, though it is not a word.  What does it mean?

it means to be clueless or stupid, interweb slang.

[Grujah]

Omighosh 2 doc claims D1, it doesn't get worse than this.

ehunt is how much away from lynch? L-1? L-0?

vote: shraeye

[Eevee]

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

I have no idea what this means.  O, you use derp a lot, though it is not a word.  What does it mean?

it means to be clueless or stupid, interweb slang.

I'm quite pro at derping.


Can someone explain to me why we are all voting for ehunt all of a sudden? Insomniac didnt even claim a card ffs, and you all seem like this is a slam dunk now? How can Insomniac claiming doctor without the card name make ehunt's claim THAT much less credible? Watch that wagon before you accidentally lynch him and cut out the discussion, would you?

[O]

Omighosh 2 doc claims D1, it doesn't get worse than this.

ehunt is how much away from lynch? L-1? L-0?

vote: shraeye

This is an EXCELLENT example of a derp. Ehunt is at L-4.

[ftl]

So I'm the only one who thinks Insomniac is scummier of the two?

No...

[O]

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

I have no idea what this means.  O, you use derp a lot, though it is not a word.  What does it mean?

it means to be clueless or stupid, interweb slang.

I'm quite pro at derping.


Can someone explain to me why we are all voting for ehunt all of a sudden? Insomniac didnt even claim a card ffs, and you all seem like this is a slam dunk now? How can Insomniac claiming doctor without the card name make ehunt's claim THAT much less credible? Watch that wagon before you accidentally lynch him and cut out the discussion, would you?

Insomniac has since claimed 8.

Because what the hell are the odds that both of the two town doctor slots (which were in the same suit) were picked and that they were our primary wagons?

Because Ehunt was always really freaking scummy, so much so that I ALMOST didn't take my vote off after he claimed.

[Eevee]

Question for everyone!

ehunt vs insomniac, your take on the situation. More than just the vote please, I really want to understand & see your reasons. Who is more scummy, and why? How likely do you see the possibility of both of them being town?

[Robz888]

Question for everyone!

ehunt vs insomniac, your take on the situation. More than just the vote please, I really want to understand & see your reasons. Who is more scummy, and why? How likely do you see the possibility of both of them being town?

To expand on what O said a bit, my immediate reaction to Ehunt's doctor claim was: "Psh, predictable." I didn't have that reaction when Insomniac said it; it was more genuine. Ehunt's was scripted. He even had the "this is why I was lurking, I was doctor" answer all ready to go.

I doubt they are both town. Probably scum and town, probably one will be lynched and the other nightkilled by some other scum.

[Eevee]

don't worry, you just derped your way into obvtown.

I have no idea what this means.  O, you use derp a lot, though it is not a word.  What does it mean?

it means to be clueless or stupid, interweb slang.

I'm quite pro at derping.


Can someone explain to me why we are all voting for ehunt all of a sudden? Insomniac didnt even claim a card ffs, and you all seem like this is a slam dunk now? How can Insomniac claiming doctor without the card name make ehunt's claim THAT much less credible? Watch that wagon before you accidentally lynch him and cut out the discussion, would you?

Insomniac has since claimed 8.

Because what the hell are the odds that both of the two town doctor slots (which were in the same suit) were picked and that they were our primary wagons?

Because Ehunt was always really freaking scummy, so much so that I ALMOST didn't take my vote off after he claimed.

You seem to disagree with me, I'm quite confused as to how I derped my way into obvtown?

If cayvie did the draw randomly, they can both still be doctors, but I agree it is not worth concentrating on. But yeah, I'm actually starting to understand why Ins is more credible. (I felt Ins was scummy and ehunt wasnt, but the actual facts are indeed on his side. Brain triumphs over gut. Thanks O.)

[Galzria]

Question for everyone!

ehunt vs insomniac, your take on the situation. More than just the vote please, I really want to understand & see your reasons. Who is more scummy, and why? How likely do you see the possibility of both of them being town?

I suppose two doctors is possible; the ninja doctor is also pro-town, right?  But the mafia also have  a doctor.  But I'm not sure I believe this is true.  Odd that Insomniac didn't object to the card claim by ehunt, and just said that he was also doctor.  It wouldn't make ehunt a liar unless Insomniac also had the 10 of Wands.  And if Insomniac has a 10 of Wands, he should have had to wait any time at all to know and tell us all that ehunt has lied.  So you're correct, Insomniac.  I don't believe you; my vote will stay on you.

He wouldn't have come out and said "LOL OBVLIE" right away because it outs himself unnecessarily. He made his claim now, at L-3, so there would be time to react. If he were scum, why the hell would he make this claim? To get eHunt lynched? That's retarded. If he were scum he would kill eHunt at night and make a more believable claim today. What do you think happens if eHunt flips town Doc?

A) Insomniac gets NK'd because he's Doc #2,
B) Insomniac lives because he's scum and gets lynched tomorrow,
C) Insomniac is scum but gets NK'd by the other faction because they don't know if he's A or B.

This would be a retarded claim for a scum Insomniac to make.

Now, does town Doctor Insomniac make eHunt a liar? No, but it makes it damn more likely.

[Axxle]

Question for everyone!

ehunt vs insomniac, your take on the situation. More than just the vote please, I really want to understand & see your reasons. Who is more scummy, and why? How likely do you see the possibility of both of them being town?

You've voted for eHunt.  You haven't voted for insomniac.  What is *your* take on the situation?  What made it change?

[shraeye]

Because what the hell are the odds that both of the two town doctor slots (which were in the same suit) were picked and that they were our primary wagons?

We also wagonned Axxle for a bit.  Are we now faced with a choice between ehunt and Insomniac?  I'd still like to push for Eevee, which never seemed to gain any ground.  Or angrybirds, who is missing again.

[Axxle]

Question for everyone!

ehunt vs insomniac, your take on the situation. More than just the vote please, I really want to understand & see your reasons. Who is more scummy, and why? How likely do you see the possibility of both of them being town?

To expand on what O said a bit, my immediate reaction to Ehunt's doctor claim was: "Psh, predictable." I didn't have that reaction when Insomniac said it; it was more genuine. Ehunt's was scripted. He even had the "this is why I was lurking, I was doctor" answer all ready to go.

I doubt they are both town. Probably scum and town, probably one will be lynched and the other nightkilled by some other scum.

He even had other explanations in the wing.  "Look, I named my card, I'm basically named townie"