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[dghunter79]

I was looking up Bank to try and help me decide how to best word a self-designed card.  And I noticed: Bank has a pretty interesting quality, which I thought might be pretty rare, or at least uncommon.  But I couldn't tell, off the top of my head, which other cards might share this quality; I had to look them each up one by one.  Which is my way of saying that I haven't had time to search all the cards yet.  But here are all the cards in the Base, Prosperity and Alchemy sets that share this quality.

Can anyone figure out what the shared quality is, and supply the missing cards from the other sets?

Base:
Chapel
Laboratory
Festival
Gold
Estate

Prosperity:
Bank
City
Forge

Alchemy:
University

[popsofctown]

I can't figure it out. 

[Morgrim7]

Me niether. Does it have to do with the text on the card?

[dghunter79]

Just went through Intrigue, searching for more cards that hold the sought-after quality.  I found the results surprising.

Intrigue:
Courtyard
Pawn
Bridge

Me niether. Does it have to do with the text on the card?

Yes.

[Morgrim7]

Gold but not Silver and it has to do with the text on the card? Does the word "Colorado" work?

[dghunter79]

Gold but not Silver and it has to do with the text on the card? Does the word "Colorado" work?

Yes.

[eHalcyon]

Gold but not Silver and it has to do with the text on the card? Does the word "Colorado" work?

I have no idea what Morgrim just keyed in on.

This guy is a mad genius.

[Morgrim7]

"Morgrim" does not work? And "eHalcyon" does, right?

[dghunter79]

Not a lot of hits from Seaside.

Seaside:
Warehouse

"Morgrim" does not work? And "eHalcyon" does, right?

Actually, neither shares the sought-after quality.

[dghunter79]

Cornucopia only had one.

Cornucopia:
Harvest

While running the algorithm for the Cornucopia cards, I did accidentally discover that Young Witch possessed a quality that is, more or less, the opposite of the quality we're looking for.  Maybe not exactly the opposite, but it would be incredibly unlikely that one card could possess both. 

At some point I'll go back and check the previous sets to see which other cards possess this second quality.

[Morgrim7]

The word "Cornucopia" works. So does "Dominion".

[dghunter79]

Only one hit from Hinterlands:

Hinterlands:
Inn

But, one hit on finding a card with the "opposite quality."  Which, I think this opposite quality is even more rare than the quality it's the opposite of!  I know, right?  By now, you should probably be able to guess what this one card is, if you're feeling lucky: Noble Brigand.

The word "Cornucopia" works. So does "Dominion".

Cornucopia, no.  Dominion, yes!

[cayvie]

morgrim: you're clearly close but not quite there

why don't you spell out what you think the rule is so we can try to work form there?

[Morgrim7]

Usually if there is a word with alternating Vowels and Consonants or something close to that it works.

[Ozle]

Ok, got it.
Not sure how festIval works though...

[Ozle]

Pretty sure morgrim is way off if im right!

[dghunter79]

Usually if there is a word with alternating Vowels and Consonants or something close to that it works.

Sorry, that's incorrect.  The algorithm I'm relying on doesn't base it's results on vowel or consonant patterns.

Ok, got it.
Not sure how festIval works though...

Great!  Not sure what the confusion would be, though.

[Morgrim7]

Ok, no idea. Ozle, what do you think it is?

[Ozle]

Words containing other words

[Grujah]

Words containing other words

But many are missing than.
Like, Witch.
Chancellor.

[Morgrim7]

Words containing other words

And so would CORNucopia

[Ozle]

Damn

[Morgrim7]

I gve up. What is it?

[Davio]

It's probably got to do with converting the letters to numbers (a = 1, z = 26), adding them up and seeing if the number is prime.


Inn = 9 + 14 + 14 = 37 = prime
Harvest = 8 + 1 + 18 + 22 + 5 + 19 + 20 = 93 != prime
Warehouse = 23 + 1 + 18 + 5 + 8 + 15 + 21 + 19 + 5 = 115 != prime

Okay, so the theory about "prime words" doesn't hold, but probably it's something like that.

[Morgrim7]

If davio is right, you must have a lot of time on your hands, dghunter.

[dghunter79]

To recap.  On August 9, 2012, all of the following Dominion cards (excluding Dark Ages) share a particular quality.  (None of the promo cards do.)  Perhaps if you take a step back and look at all the cards together, the outlines of a solution will appear in your mind. 

Don't worry about prime numbers and stuff like that.  You don't need Google's calculator function to solve this; it's not that type of puzzle.

Quality 1:
Bank
Bridge
Chapel
City
Courtyard
Estate
Festival
Forge
Gold
Harvest
Inn
Laboratory
Pawn
University
Warehouse

EDIT: And village!  Shoot.

And all these cards share a different quality, one that's (imprecisely) the opposite quality to Quality 1.

Quality 2:
Council Room
Noble Brigand
Walled Village
Worker's Village
Young Witch

OK, here's some more information.

The algorithm I run these cards through: I didn't design it.

Regarding Dark Ages.  Of the previewed cards, only Rats has Quality 1.  Ruined Market has Quality 2.  Based on what I know of the unrevealed cards, I would guess that once they're all revealed, more cards will have Quality 2 than in any other set.

Also, I imagine that if someone slipped me a card list of the unpreviewed Dark Ages cards, and I ran them through the algorithm today, that ALMOST ALL of them would share Quality 1.  Though I can't be sure.  And of course, tomorrow will be a different story...

Oh yeah, third thing -- the results of this puzzle are very time sensitive.  A year from now, all the answers could be different.

Good luck!

[Schneau]

The only thing I notice is that list 2 contains all 2-word cards. Though I'm pretty sure that's not the answer, but maybe related?

[razorborne]

The only thing I notice is that list 2 contains all 2-word cards. Though I'm pretty sure that's not the answer, but maybe related?

all the quality 1 things are 1 word. I doubt that's the whole rule (many cards would be missing from the list if it was) but it might be related.

[dghunter79]

The only thing I notice is that list 2 contains all 2-word cards. Though I'm pretty sure that's not the answer, but maybe related?

all the quality 1 things are 1 word. I doubt that's the whole rule (many cards would be missing from the list if it was) but it might be related.

Yeah, it's fairly relevant.  A good place to start might be to consider the two-word Dominion cards that made the list vs. the ones that didn't.

[Kirian]

Can someone just answer this?  I think three weeks is long enough...

[pst]

Can someone just answer this?  I think three weeks is long enough...

On the other hand, "On August 9, 2012, all of the following Dominion cards (excluding Dark Ages) share a particular quality". We could get a big(?) hint soon what cards have the particular quality post-DA.

[razorborne]

The only thing I notice is that list 2 contains all 2-word cards. Though I'm pretty sure that's not the answer, but maybe related?

all the quality 1 things are 1 word. I doubt that's the whole rule (many cards would be missing from the list if it was) but it might be related.

Yeah, it's fairly relevant.  A good place to start might be to consider the two-word Dominion cards that made the list vs. the ones that didn't.

Throne Room
Secret Chamber
Great Hall
Shanty Town
Wishing Well
Mining Village
Trading Post
Native Village
Pearl Diver
Fishing Village
Pirate Ship
Sea Hag
Treasure Map
Ghost Ship
Merchant Ship
Scrying Pool
Philosopher's Stone
Trade Route
Counting House
Royal Seal
Grand Market
King's Court
Fortune Teller
Farming Village
Horse Traders
Hunting Party
Trusty Steed
Fool's Gold
Nomad Camp
Silk Road
Spice Merchant
Ill-Gotten Gains
Border Village
Black Market

these are the ones that didn't. anyone see a pattern?

[razorborne]

council room aside, all the other trait 2 things have a word that is another card name within them, if you count "Noble" as "Nobles". this also syncs up with the Ruined Market comment, as well as the "I expect more" comment (there seem to be numerous references to prior cards in Dark Ages). maybe it has to do with just sharing a word, in which case Council Room has Throne Room. however, there would be other cards, like, all the village variants, that are missing. still, perhaps a piece of the puzzle?

[dghunter79]

I guess it's even harder than I thought.  Alright, one last hint.  Here's the link to the algorithm I used.

http://tinyurl.com/2tx

[argyle]

I didn't use Google's calculator function, but something else instead:

Quality 1 is that there is no Dominion-related search result on the first page of Google (or the search engine of your choice). 
Quality 2 is the opposite, of course.

[Ozle]

Ugh, if this is whether it shows up on the first google page then I was never going to find it.

Doesn't google personalise search results based on what you have searched for before?

[dghunter79]

I didn't use Google's calculator function, but something else instead:

Quality 1 is that there is no Dominion-related search result on the first page of Google (or the search engine of your choice). 
Quality 2 is the opposite, of course.

Yup!  Phew.  (And I'm pretty sure argyle got the answer before I gave out that last hint.)  Congrats!

Quality 1: Entering "Dominion thiscard" into Google returns a top result that is not related to Dominion.  I learned about a lot of small businesses named Dominion.  Dominion Bank, Dominion Bridge Builders, Dominion Exterminators (they kill rats...)

Quality 2: Entering thiscard into Google returns a top result that is related to Dominion.  I learned that many more Dominion cards are "things" than I realized.  l had no idea what a Silk Road was.  And I had never heard of silkroad.com.

Ugh, if this is whether it shows up on the first google page then I was never going to find it.

Doesn't google personalise search results based on what you have searched for before?

That would be funny.  In that case, you should have been using my computer, what were you thinking?

[Ozle]

That would be funny.  In that case, you should have been using my computer, what were you thinking?

Well, I was waiting outside your window for ages, but you never went out!

[Grujah]

Doesn't google personalise search results based on what you have searched for before?

This.

[eHalcyon]

Quality 2: Entering thiscard into Google returns a top result that is related to Dominion.  I learned that many more Dominion cards are "things" than I realized.  l had no idea what a Silk Road was.  And I had never heard of silkroad.com.[/spoiler]

Isn't everything in Dominion a Thing?  Also, I believe there is not "a Silk Road".  Rather, there is the Silk Road.

And Google personalizes results based on many things, including geographic location.

[dghunter79]

Quality 2: Entering thiscard into Google returns a top result that is related to Dominion.  I learned that many more Dominion cards are "things" than I realized.  l had no idea what a Silk Road was.  And I had never heard of silkroad.com.[/spoiler]

Isn't everything in Dominion a Thing?

Well, a few of them are only "things" in Dominion, like Young Witch, or Ruined Market.  As opposed to like, Magic, where you've got Moogly the Mud Monster and if you google Moogly the Mud Monster it will take you to a post about a Moogly the Mud Monster Magic Card.  There aren't a lot of Mooglies in Dominon, but there's a few!

And Google personalizes results based on many things, including geographic location.

So I've heard.  I'd be interested to see if that skews the results.  I could see the results being different if you're Googling from China.

[eHalcyon]

But a Young Witch is a Witch and a Witch is a Thing!