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[werothegreat]

Just had this thought (but don't feel like fleshing out a full article):

The problem with Haggler is you can't get VP with the second card.  If you buy a Grand Market, you can't pick up a Duchy.  Quarry allows you to get around that by making Actions cheaper, so you can buy the VP card instead.  Play Haggler, Quarry, needed Treasures, then buy a Duchy, Haggling a Grand Market.  This gets very nice with Border Village - Duchy/Border Village/Torturer, for instance.

[eHalcyon]

This gets very nice with Border Village - Duchy/Border Village/Torturer, for instance.

Or you could buy BV, gain Duchy from BV, and Haggle for Torturer, all without Quarry!

[werothegreat]

This gets very nice with Border Village - Duchy/Border Village/Torturer, for instance.

Or you could buy BV, gain Duchy from BV, and Haggle for Torturer, all without Quarry!

That may require Gold, and Quarry is cheaper.

[ftl]

If you could buy a Duchy with Haggler in play and gain a BV/Torturer, then if that Quarry had been a silver, you could have just bought a BV, gaining Duchy/Torturer.

[Mic Qsenoch]

I guess the suggested combo could be useful sometimes, but how often do you want to buy Duchies in order to gain actions? Early in the game and you don't want the green, later in the game you're less likely to get Haggler/Quarry together, and the benefit seems so marginal (the action you get may never be used). Probably the best place for this idea is a Duke board.

[eHalcyon]

I guess the suggested combo could be useful sometimes, but how often do you want to buy Duchies in order to gain actions? Early in the game and you don't want the green, later in the game you're less likely to get Haggler/Quarry together, and the benefit seems so marginal (the action you get may never be used). Probably the best place for this idea is a Duke board.

Ehh... Quarry-Haggler would let you buy a Duchy (maybe even Estate in some cases) and gain a more expensive Action.  But on a Duke board, what expensive actions do you really want?  It's probably better to buy Duchy/Duke as the main purchase and use Haggler for extra Silver or actions like HT.  Silver is much more valuable than Quarry on a Duke/Duchy board.

[Mic Qsenoch]

I guess the suggested combo could be useful sometimes, but how often do you want to buy Duchies in order to gain actions? Early in the game and you don't want the green, later in the game you're less likely to get Haggler/Quarry together, and the benefit seems so marginal (the action you get may never be used). Probably the best place for this idea is a Duke board.

Ehh... Quarry-Haggler would let you buy a Duchy (maybe even Estate in some cases) and gain a more expensive Action.  But on a Duke board, what expensive actions do you really want?  It's probably better to buy Duchy/Duke as the main purchase and use Haggler for extra Silver or actions like HT.  Silver is much more valuable than Quarry on a Duke/Duchy board.

I definitely agree with you, I was just trying to think of a situation where this might be useful. I guess the best partner actions for the Haggler/Duke/Quarry/X combo would be the Markets, Wharf, Goons, Festival, more Hagglers. There's probably some other nice ones as well. I'm not saying its good though, just that it might be okay sometimes, maybe.

[werothegreat]

I guess the suggested combo could be useful sometimes, but how often do you want to buy Duchies in order to gain actions? Early in the game and you don't want the green, later in the game you're less likely to get Haggler/Quarry together, and the benefit seems so marginal (the action you get may never be used). Probably the best place for this idea is a Duke board.

Ehh... Quarry-Haggler would let you buy a Duchy (maybe even Estate in some cases) and gain a more expensive Action.  But on a Duke board, what expensive actions do you really want?  It's probably better to buy Duchy/Duke as the main purchase and use Haggler for extra Silver or actions like HT.  Silver is much more valuable than Quarry on a Duke/Duchy board.

I definitely agree with you, I was just trying to think of a situation where this might be useful. I guess the best partner actions for the Haggler/Duke/Quarry/X combo would be the Markets, Wharf, Goons, more Hagglers. There's probably some other nice ones as well. I'm not saying its good though, just that it might be okay sometimes, maybe.

Those are probably better examples - they cost $5, so you wouldn't be able to Haggle them ordinarily.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Haggler/Duke is definitely a combo even without Quarry, and I'm doubtful that a Quarry can actually help much if at all. You mostly want to be buying Duchies and gaining Silvers.

[popsofctown]

Quarry is kind of a weak card that doesn't really work even if it seems like an interaction is working for it.  I've fallen flat on my face trying to get quarry+buy to work at all many a time..

[HiveMindEmulator]

Quarry is kind of a weak card that doesn't really work even if it seems like an interaction is working for it.  I've fallen flat on my face trying to get quarry+buy to work at all many a time..

Quarry is great for building engines since you mostly want to buy action cards, and even without a +buy, Quarry acts like a Gold. Then throw in a +buy and it's like a Platinum.

[DG]

Play Haggler, Quarry, needed Treasures, then buy a Duchy, Haggling a Grand Market.

Alternatively, play haggler, silver, needed treasures, then buy a province haggling a grand market. Silver is better at buying vp.

[Morgrim7]

Play Haggler, Quarry, needed Treasures, then buy a Duchy, Haggling a Grand Market.

Alternatively, play haggler, silver, needed treasures, then buy a province haggling a grand market. Silver is better at buying vp.

*Rolls eyes*
Yeah, why not play Haggler, Platinum, needed treasures, buy Colony haggling a Grand Market.

[jomini]

The place where this does work (somewhat) is with fairgrounds. Buy fairgrounds/gain any action (except peddler). The reason you like doing it this way over using silver is normally Kc, Gm, Expand, etc. If you are going to be buying a lot of fairgrounds (e.g. moderately slow engine needing to mass 6 VP fairgrounds) then you can keep building your engine (particularly if you have multiple hagglers in play). This also allows you to grab actions you currently do not own (e.g. expand, forge, adventurer, Bv) or to pile deplete some key 6 (e.g. Goons, Bv) while piling out the fairgrounds. It is a rare trick, but it can work.