Yeah, that basically proves the point about why it's not talked about. People get upset and lose their tempers, and we get a bunch of "they" based accusations. Assume whatever you'd like about me, but, for the record, I am the #3 person in teh Great Evil Liberal Conspiracy. Tomorrow we have a meeting to discuss how much we hate god and want to pass laws requiring teenagers to have gay sex and get an abortion (we're still ironing out the details on how those two things will work together).
I happen to know this isn't true, because I'm a liberal. The people on the right actually annoy me more than those on the left on these issues, but they both annoy me, because they try to twist the thing to their own ends.
I'm sorry, who has lost their temper here? "They" based accusations? I don't even know what that means. I use 'they' because it is a really convenient pronoun to not have to say 'people who hold this position X and say these things Y, Z, and W' all the time.
What I assume about you is that you are not particularly religious and not an expert on the Bible. What is that assumption built on? Only the things you've said here. I also assume that when you say something , you generally mean it (obviously the Great Evil Liberal Conspiracy thing was a joke).
I don't think you have a conspiracy, that you particularly hate God, that you want to pass any kind of these laws, or anything like that. I think you are a reasonable person who has positions on issues that try to make the best for everyone - you've given me no reason to think otherwise. I just happen to think that those positions are wrong. However, it is totally possible to disagree amicably and talk through these kinds of issues, even though you almost never ever see that when you watch the politicians and the pundits. And because we are flooded by that, people think you just can't have these kinds of discussions, but that too is wrong. You certainly can, and I have on many occasions.
The point that I was trying to make in my first comment, is that it is at least as wrong to assume that all religious people, religion itself, individual religions, or most any religious text I'm familiar with (again, there's probably some crazy ones out there - I haven't read them ALL), hate or condemn non-religious people, or people who don't hold their beliefs, or whatever, or that they think all such people have some kind of terrible conspiracy, or that is necessarily trying to be imposed, or that some particular political group has control of religion, or is being led by it, or accurately reflects it, that is just as wrong as assuming that all liberals are wanton hedons who love abortion. I get to enjoy both sides of bashing here. But forcing through secularization has no more objective basis to it than forcing through religious set of beliefs 4742, and it annoys me that people keep touting it like it does. Sure, there's not the ethical license to impose one's religion on another (nor is this actually efficaciously possible), but there's also not the ethical license to stop people from bringing that to the table - it is a legitimate part of who they are.
This extends beyond the Bible of course - they do this with just about everything, and it drives me nuts. A shooting at a theatre in Colorado, and we get the left trying to use it to bolster anti-gun laws and the right trying to use it to bolster pro-gun laws, and everyone misses the point. I mean, yes, there is a correct answer there politically (I believe that it is that you need an incredibly good reason to be able to own a lethal firearm), but hello! That is not the real issue. The real issue is that there are people who are dead, killed by another human being. We need to mourn them, support their families, and change the culture so that people don't want to do that. Because legal or not does not matter nearly so much as that. Basically, politics is incredibly overrated.
