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[jotheonah]

Vote: jotheonah

for voting on roles when we determined long ago that roles and alignment are not connected at all.
k,
Also, drnuk. As in, drunk.

Vote: Dr. Nuk

[Morgrim7]

Cards in the kingdom:
Goons-Robz888
Governor-Ozle
Tournament
Expand
Transmute
Haggler-Morgrim (Axxle)
Unpopular forum tim
Embargo
Ghost Ship
Jester
PLAYER
Horn of Plenty
Masquerade
Sabotuer
NEWS: eHalcyon is modconfirmed town.
O will be has replaced Volt.
There were no deaths last night.
If you are actually reading this post, quote it.
Reshuffling is over. It will resume day six. So, for now, every role will remain the same.

Just throwing that out there...

[O]

Cards in the kingdom:
Goons-Robz888
Governor-Ozle
Tournament
Expand
Transmute
Haggler-Morgrim (Axxle)
Unpopular forum tim
Embargo
Ghost Ship
Jester
PLAYER
Horn of Plenty
Masquerade
Sabotuer
NEWS: eHalcyon is modconfirmed town.
O will be has replaced Volt.
There were no deaths last night.
If you are actually reading this post, quote it.
Reshuffling is over. It will resume day six. So, for now, every role will remain the same.

Just throwing that out there...

So yea it's based off Dominion reshuffles.
EXCEPT YOU RESHUFFLE TURN FIVE. HOW DOES THAT FEEL MORGRIM!?!?!

[eHalcyon]

Derrrrrrrpppppp

Unvote

Gonna come back to this, since we have nothing else to really discuss.  The role shuffling is making my head spin and I don't feel like devoting too much thought to it right now.

O, how did you forget I was IC?  Were you actually just not caught up?  I figure you'd at least have read the first two posts and seen I was mod-confirmed town.

Didn't you make a slip like this in MIV, where you were scum, which ultimately led to your lynch?  I'm not sure because I didn't follow it closely.

[O]

Derrrrrrrpppppp

Unvote

Gonna come back to this, since we have nothing else to really discuss.  The role shuffling is making my head spin and I don't feel like devoting too much thought to it right now.

O, how did you forget I was IC?  Were you actually just not caught up?  I figure you'd at least have read the first two posts and seen I was mod-confirmed town.

Didn't you make a slip like this in MIV, where you were scum, which ultimately led to your lynch?  I'm not sure because I didn't follow it closely.

I did make the slip, it influenced but didn't cause my lynch.
I was caught up, I just wasn't in the right... RMM2 mindset?

But yea, thankfully I'm town this time and so far I've had incredible townie powers to never get lynched (or NKed interestingly).

So yea, I was scum then. I'm not scum now.

[Galzria]

Derrrrrrrpppppp

Unvote

Gonna come back to this, since we have nothing else to really discuss.  The role shuffling is making my head spin and I don't feel like devoting too much thought to it right now.

O, how did you forget I was IC?  Were you actually just not caught up?  I figure you'd at least have read the first two posts and seen I was mod-confirmed town.

Didn't you make a slip like this in MIV, where you were scum, which ultimately led to your lynch?  I'm not sure because I didn't follow it closely.

Yeah, he forgot obvtown was obvtown in M-IV.

That said, Vote: Glooble for outlurking us all. Scum Glooble had this maneuver down, and I don't trust him at all.

[ftl]

Or, should we go back to kills?

There were no deaths last night. This is weird.

Cayvie claimed vig who killed Ozle, isn't that right. If that were true, there would be 2 deaths tonight, a vig and a mafia kill? And there were *none*? Obvious conclusion: cayvie mafia?

Is there something wrong with my logic, did I forget a claim somewhere or something?

Alternative explanation for no deaths - my night action on Glooble stopped the kill. As I claimed earlier, my previous Swindler role would apply a random night action to a player. That means I could have either doctored or roleblocked glooble and stopped the kill; he could have been either the target or the killer. But, well, that's a 50-50 chance IMO. And 50-50 is higher than a random lynch.

So I'd be down for a Glooble or Cayvie lynch.

[eHalcyon]

But yea, thankfully I'm town this time and so far I've had incredible townie powers to never get lynched (or NKed interestingly).

Softclaiming that Stash made you invulnerable?

[eHalcyon]

Or, should we go back to kills?

There were no deaths last night. This is weird.

Cayvie claimed vig who killed Ozle, isn't that right. If that were true, there would be 2 deaths tonight, a vig and a mafia kill? And there were *none*? Obvious conclusion: cayvie mafia?

Is there something wrong with my logic, did I forget a claim somewhere or something?

Alternative explanation for no deaths - my night action on Glooble stopped the kill. As I claimed earlier, my previous Swindler role would apply a random night action to a player. That means I could have either doctored or roleblocked glooble and stopped the kill; he could have been either the target or the killer. But, well, that's a 50-50 chance IMO. And 50-50 is higher than a random lynch.

So I'd be down for a Glooble or Cayvie lynch.

Not only no kill, but no cards were "gained from the Supply" either.

[Eevee]

ftl's logis sound (although cayvie is probably going to claim x-shot vig and say he didnt shoot last night)
Vote: Glooble, need to wake him up.

[O]

But yea, thankfully I'm town this time and so far I've had incredible townie powers to never get lynched (or NKed interestingly).

Softclaiming that Stash made you invulnerable?

No? Stash is nothing that incredibly.

It was a reference to previous townie games.

[eHalcyon]

But yea, thankfully I'm town this time and so far I've had incredible townie powers to never get lynched (or NKed interestingly).

Softclaiming that Stash made you invulnerable?

No? Stash is nothing that incredibly.

It was a reference to previous townie games.

Ah.  OK.

So the conclusion then is that, if we do not lynch you, you must be townie.  If we lynch you, you must be scum.  Schrodinger-esque!

[O]

But yea, thankfully I'm town this time and so far I've had incredible townie powers to never get lynched (or NKed interestingly).

Softclaiming that Stash made you invulnerable?

No? Stash is nothing that incredibly.

It was a reference to previous townie games.

Ah.  OK.

So the conclusion then is that, if we do not lynch you, you must be townie.  If we lynch you, you must be scum.  Schrodinger-esque!

Not exactly. If you lynch me I'm scum, but I can be not lynched and still be scum (NKed M5)

[eHalcyon]

cayvie, are you still Transmute?  What did you do last night?

[jotheonah]

if you're one-shot bulletproof, do you get told when you're shot?

[O]

if you're one-shot bulletproof, do you get told when you're shot?

lolwut

[Eevee]

if you're one-shot bulletproof, do you get told when you're shot?

AFAIK you are not, but not sure and this is role madness anyways.

[jotheonah]

I could possibly be the reason for the no-kill night. Although why scum would shoot me is beyond me.

[cayvie]

cayvie, are you still Transmute?  What did you do last night?

I shot someone, and they didn't die.

I don't think I should reveal who I shot.

It wasn't you, jo.

[ftl]

Was it Glooble?

[cayvie]

Was it Glooble?

I'm not answering that yet.

[cayvie]

sorry about this, I'm not used to having night-action-based information to influence my opinions!

how about this.

I shot someone. They didn't die. I was informed that shooting them gave me a one-shot use of rolecop.

What does this sound a lot like? Insomniac's claim as Tunnel.

Fine Axxle.

I am a Town aligned - Tunnel
I am bulletproof.
When targeted with a night kill whomever targets me gets a one-shot cop device.

SO if someone has the ability to nightkill me in the town, they can target me to get a one-shot cop device and thus prove that I am town if they choose to use it on me, or they can do scumhunting with it and keep shooting me for more. IE all vigs can choose to be cops if they want.

Eevee is sheeping your read, which is wrong, but he's doing it in a scummy way, he waited until called out to vote for me our robz as if he was waiting for it to be clear which one was going to be lynched so he could try and keep his hands clean. I would be voting for Eevee regardless of if he voted for me or Robz there.

EXCEPT: Insomniac claimed that shooting him would get you a one-shot cop device. I got a one-shot rolecop device.

I strongly suspect that Insomniac lied about his role, and was relying on trotting out "oh, silly Morgrim doesn't know the difference between cop and rolecop" if he got caught.

vote: Insomniac

[O]

OK guys, there's too many bulletproof people here.

Stash is one-shot bulletproof in the sense that any one night I could have activated my Bulletproof ability; if I didn't and I was targeted I would die as normal.

As the roles got reshuffle I was informed that I automatically used my 1-shot bulletproof ability last night. 

[Glooble]

Ok, I'm home.

Why would scum Insomniac lie about that? Claiming that killing him gave out a more powerful role would encourage you to shoot him, which would instantly prove him a liar (and keep you from accidentally killing a townie.) Where's the upside of that gambit? I don't buy it.

Can't see scum targeting me, unless maybe they were scared of my double vote? There are far more powerful things to be scared of, and given my history, I look super scummy. If I were mafia, I'd want me alive.

Therefore, the most likely liar in this situation right now seems like cayvie. But the 2 bullets tells me maybe Ozle really was shot twice. So I'm inclined to trust cayvie's vig claim.

[Grujah]

Now, PRs (as I am basically still VT) you were the same Roles N1 and N2, all of you?