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[Captain_Frisk]

What do you think about PPS manda?

[Galzria]

The total lack of posting from Galzria and RobZ is making me extra special nervous.

Galzria - would you like to talk about beer if you won't talk about the game?  There's another brewfest in CT coming up.

You DO realize the only person with more posts than me is you... Right? Calling me out on lurking is rather ridiculous. You really shouldn't paint a picture with bad paint. I'm quite happy where my vote is.

[Captain_Frisk]

The total lack of posting from Galzria and RobZ is making me extra special nervous.

Galzria - would you like to talk about beer if you won't talk about the game?  There's another brewfest in CT coming up.

You DO realize the only person with more posts than me is you... Right? Calling me out on lurking is rather ridiculous. You really shouldn't paint a picture with bad paint. I'm quite happy where my vote is.

I do know that I've been talking with you ALL DAY long, yet there has been no movement in this thread.

[Galzria]

The total lack of posting from Galzria and RobZ is making me extra special nervous.

Galzria - would you like to talk about beer if you won't talk about the game?  There's another brewfest in CT coming up.

You DO realize the only person with more posts than me is you... Right? Calling me out on lurking is rather ridiculous. You really shouldn't paint a picture with bad paint. I'm quite happy where my vote is.

I do know that I've been talking with you ALL DAY long, yet there has been no movement in this thread.

I gave you a full answer to your Robz question. Did you miss that post of mine too?

[Captain_Frisk]

I saw it - but its not like he's not online - he's explicitly doing other things - like writing articles about Duchess! 

[Young Nick]

Meh I am glued to the computer all weekend and there are only five posts. I come back after one day of work and have multiple pages to read. I have read nothing and hope to catch up later, but can't comment now.

[Robz888]

I saw it - but its not like he's not online - he's explicitly doing other things - like writing articles about Duchess!

What a typical anti-Duchess attitude. As if Duchess isn't worth my time. It's a very special $2 card!

[Galzria]

I saw it - but its not like he's not online - he's explicitly doing other things - like writing articles about Duchess!

I agree - I don't like his play here! But outside Glooble in M-IV, when has hardcore lurking been Scum?

Could he be trying something new? Sure. Could he be scum? Sure. Give me something more than "lurking" to vote him. After my feel about you, he is a strong and growing second choice.

[Captain_Frisk]

I saw it - but its not like he's not online - he's explicitly doing other things - like writing articles about Duchess!

What a typical anti-Duchess attitude. As if Duchess isn't worth my time. It's a very special $2 card!

Yes - duchess is not worth your time.  If you implemented a rule that said "just say no to duchess" I suspect you will lose 1 game more game than if you played duchess perfectly in your next 200 games as a result.

[Galzria]

I saw it - but its not like he's not online - he's explicitly doing other things - like writing articles about Duchess!

What a typical anti-Duchess attitude. As if Duchess isn't worth my time. It's a very special $2 card!

Will we get anything more game relevant than this?

[Captain_Frisk]

even I know the answer to that one.

We'll get nothing and like it.

[Robz888]

What else do you want from me? I voted for PPS. He's behaving more seriously in this game than he did in other, uh, Forum experiences I've had with him.

At this point, Shark_bait is newbie town, I think. Manda has the enthusiasm of a potential mafia, or maybe just somebody really excited about the game. Too early too tell. Eevee and Galzria are same as always. Frisk is an acceptable lynch.

Who am I missing? Oh, no particular reads on Young Nick or Timchen.

But we won't know anything until we just pick somebody to kill. The most important thing--more important than finding a mafia, actually, because we won't find a mafia, if all other games are any lesson--is to not pick a townie with a power role to be lynched.

[Captain_Frisk]

Is your pps lynch an un moving robz vote, or the new flexible robz?

[Young Nick]

My experience up to now: lurkers are lurkers because they are bored, not because they are scum. If anything, lurking when you are scum is probably the worst way to play the game. You have more things you can do. I certainly won't lurk in a game I am mafia.

This confuses me. Say you are Mafia: just because you have more you can do doesn't mean that you should take advantage of it all. You know, the good ol' "sometimes the best action is inaction." Why would you never lurk as Mafia? This could provide insight regarding our current lurkers.

And regarding your first part...this game has been boring as far as Mafia games go. Boredom is something that all, town and Mafia, can experience. I'm not particularly inclined to judge someone based on their post-count when the game is moving as slowly as it is.

[Galzria]

Man, I just went back and read M-II (or parts of it)... What ever happened to those days? People who would write whole essays to make their point...

Now it feels more like mafiascum Mafia. We're so uptight about picking over the littlest of word choices. We need to go back to times like this:

 

[Galzria]

(Credit: Voltgloss)

[Galzria]

Hey Fuzzy, why don't you come bus your partner with me?

Or we could flip that: CF, wanna join me in an Eevee lynch? C'mon, we can declaw the Pokemon!

[timchen]

So the night of MVI came before I was back...

@YN: Don't take my word that serious there. I am not saying we can know who is mafia by counting number of posts. I just mean that it is hard to imagine a mafia will play for the win by intentional lurking. Not the most interesting way to play this game is it? Although I can see it work on the forums.

@manda: Not joining our frisk wagon? It's pretty clear to me that he is buddying up with you.

[timchen]

@Robz: with one less game to post on, I expect to hear more from you!

[Galzria]

So the night of MVI came before I was back...

@YN: Don't take my word that serious there. I am not saying we can know who is mafia by counting number of posts. I just mean that it is hard to imagine a mafia will play for the win by intentional lurking. Not the most interesting way to play this game is it? Although I can see it work on the forums.

@manda: Not joining our frisk wagon? It's pretty clear to me that he is buddying up with you.

Err, Timchen, did you mean that last point to Manda with sarcasm? Because if you look at the last vote tally...:

 

Vote Count 1-11

Captain_Frisk (3): timchen, Galzria, pingpongsam
shark_bait (2): manda2014, Young Nick
manda2014 (2): Eevee, Captain_Frisk
pingpongsam (1): Robz888
Robz888 (1): shark_bait

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Lynch deadline: Saturday, July 28, at 7:30 p.m. forum time

[Robz888]

The thing is that now we've gotten better at this, and we all know Day is basically not going to result in a scum lynch. That doesn't mean the day is meaningless, because tomorrow we will be looking back at this stuff for clues. But it does mean that knowing what we know now, in this vanilla-ish setup, it's a little hard to get the ball rolling. Consider that in the last game like this, MII, obvscum Robz whipped the town into the frenzied lynch of crazy Morgrim on Day 1, with support from otherscum Galz. We're just all much better--and more calculating--now. And we've learned that a lot of the things we used to hold against people--craziness and word choice, for instance--aren't actually scumtells.

[timchen]

Oops, I didn't look carefully at the votes. That vote from frisk must have occurred some time ago. But frisk accused me buddying up him when my vote was on his head too! Anyway, it's a general feeling from the posts by frisk directed to (a)manda.

And the night fell in RMMI when I was absent as well. Oh well...

[Galzria]

The thing is that now we've gotten better at this, and we all know Day is basically not going to result in a scum lynch. That doesn't mean the day is meaningless, because tomorrow we will be looking back at this stuff for clues. But it does mean that knowing what we know now, in this vanilla-ish setup, it's a little hard to get the ball rolling. Consider that in the last game like this, MII, obvscum Robz whipped the town into the frenzied lynch of crazy Morgrim on Day 1, with support from otherscum Galz. We're just all much better--and more calculating--now. And we've learned that a lot of the things we used to hold against people--craziness and word choice, for instance--aren't actually scumtells.

That's why I'm voting the only sane person in the thread right now. To try something different. I mean, we can't miss Scum every time. We just need to find scum where they haven't yet been found on f.DS - Blending in, non-suspicious, voice of reason / town sort of people.

Sure, "lynch the most town looking people" is probably a terrible strategy... But I can point to at least 3 examples out of the 5 concluded games where this would've held true. The other two games it didn't matter (M-I and M-III) as town won on PR's after the D1 lynch. So yeah... I'm willing to try something a little unconventional, and see where it leads.

[Galzria]

Fixed the bolded sentence ending:

The thing is that now we've gotten better at this, and we all know Day is basically not going to result in a scum lynch. That doesn't mean the day is meaningless, because tomorrow we will be looking back at this stuff for clues. But it does mean that knowing what we know now, in this vanilla-ish setup, it's a little hard to get the ball rolling. Consider that in the last game like this, MII, obvscum Robz whipped the town into the frenzied lynch of crazy Morgrim on Day 1, with support from otherscum Galz. We're just all much better--and more calculating--now. And we've learned that a lot of the things we used to hold against people--craziness and word choice, for instance--aren't actually scumtells.

That's why I'm voting the only sane person in the thread right now. To try something different. I mean, we can't miss Scum every time. We just need to find scum where they haven't yet been found on f.DS - Blending in, non-suspicious, voice of reason / town sort of people.

Sure, "lynch the most town looking people" is probably a terrible strategy... But I can point to at least 3 examples out of the 5 concluded games where this would've yeilded Mafia kills . The other two games it didn't matter (M-I and M-III) as town won on PR's after the D1 lynch. So yeah... I'm willing to try something a little unconventional, and see where it leads.

[Eevee]

The thing is that now we've gotten better at this, and we all know Day is basically not going to result in a scum lynch. That doesn't mean the day is meaningless, because tomorrow we will be looking back at this stuff for clues. But it does mean that knowing what we know now, in this vanilla-ish setup, it's a little hard to get the ball rolling. Consider that in the last game like this, MII, obvscum Robz whipped the town into the frenzied lynch of crazy Morgrim on Day 1, with support from otherscum Galz. We're just all much better--and more calculating--now. And we've learned that a lot of the things we used to hold against people--craziness and word choice, for instance--aren't actually scumtells.

That's why I'm voting the only sane person in the thread right now. To try something different. I mean, we can't miss Scum every time. We just need to find scum where they haven't yet been found on f.DS - Blending in, non-suspicious, voice of reason / town sort of people.

Sure, "lynch the most town looking people" is probably a terrible strategy... But I can point to at least 3 examples out of the 5 concluded games where this would've held true. The other two games it didn't matter (M-I and M-III) as town won on PR's after the D1 lynch. So yeah... I'm willing to try something a little unconventional, and see where it leads.

The reason we cant get scum lynched on day1 is the fact they always save themselves by claiming when in danger. That gives us info though so its not that bad.

..but it isnt like random. Scum wagons just dont take of the same way because scum doesnt vote for themselves and if they do, they can always fakeclaim and live another day.