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[O]

efff.... anybody but the Herbalist damnit..

[Galzria]

I targeted TINAS last night, fwiw. Don't have time to chat atm, but there you have it. Will be back later tonight.

[Captain_Frisk]

I also targeted TINAS as per his proposal in his hammervote. 

[O]

So if we agree that we only lynch if he turns up town/apothecary, should we use powers secretly or coordinate?

I was V/LA so I couldn't mention this, but do you all think this is a scumslip or a town-screw-up?

"we only lynch"... could be a scum replacing his scum-action with a townie-action and messing up, or it could just be a stupid typo.

Either way FOS Zxcvbn2: voting, with 2 scum/6 total would be insane right now, especially given that we don't know where night actions went.

[jotheonah]

Oh yeah. With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[Robz888]

I will say more later, but for now--I targeted Galzria, per Insomniac's suggestion of pairs.

[Captain_Frisk]

I also targeted TINAS as per his proposal in his hammervote.

Note: this was zxc's proposal - Since we didn't have consensus, I decided to go with most recent.

[Captain_Frisk]

I also targeted TINAS as per his proposal in his hammervote.

Note: this was zxc's proposal - Since we didn't have consensus, I decided to go with most recent.

FOS GAlzria for following neither suggested pairing.

[Galzria]

I also targeted TINAS as per his proposal in his hammervote.

Note: this was zxc's proposal - Since we didn't have consensus, I decided to go with most recent.

FOS GAlzria for following neither suggested pairing.

At a baseball game, but that's WHY I didn't follow either. I wasn't going to pick sides when there wasn't a consensus when either suggestion might've come from scum and been easy to manipulate results.

[O]

nobody thinks my quote is a scumslip?

[Galzria]

nobody thinks my quote is a scumslip?

Yes, I think there is a valid case there. Forums are acting up for me though, so it's hard to post.

Still, since you were on the Wagon too, I can't inherently trust you. But Insomniac saw the same thing I believe.

[Robz888]

Okay, so we lost two in the night. Based on my understanding, if every townie who was able to kill someone was successful, and the mafia chose to kill someone, we would have... 4 kills. Right? So only 2 is not so bad.

I used my power on Galzria. Which means I cannot be the Alchemist Doctor (the one who kills whoever he targets), unless Galzria was targeted by someone else, who protected him. Or perhaps I was targeted by the Jailblocker. Um. We are going to need everybody to say who they targeted, obviously. I might try/struggle to put together one of those elimination/deduction charts, you know, "Suzy likes blue marbles but not yellows marbles, Freddie likes whatever marbles Jerry doesn't like, which marbles does Nancy like?" One of those.

Ugh.

[Robz888]

If Galzria and Frisk both targeted TINAS, and he died, that means neither have a power that protects their target from dying if nightkilled. Meaning, neither can be the True Apothecary or Apprentice. If one of or both of them was, TINAS should have lived. Right?

[Robz888]

Here are possible situations:

One of them is the Alchemist (Insane Doctor) and one of them is the Stoned Philosopher (Nothing).
One of them is mafia and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the Golem and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the mafia and the other is the Alchemist.

Any other possibles?

[O]

If Galzria and Frisk both targeted TINAS, and he died, that means neither have a power that protects their target from dying if nightkilled. Meaning, neither can be the True Apothecary or Apprentice. If one of or both of them was, TINAS should have lived. Right?

IDK.

If Weak doctor targets scum, does doctor protection save them?

[Robz888]

If Galzria and Frisk both targeted TINAS, and he died, that means neither have a power that protects their target from dying if nightkilled. Meaning, neither can be the True Apothecary or Apprentice. If one of or both of them was, TINAS should have lived. Right?

IDK.

If Weak doctor targets scum, does doctor protection save them?

I think so. Why wouldn't it? If you're protected, you're protected.

[O]

oh, and I targeted Galz.

[Galzria]

Alright, I'm back, and the forums are working again.

Yeah, I'm terrible with deathy. I knew I didn't follow any list (for the reasons I stated above), which is why I wanted to make sure I announced my target before the Mafia got the chance to frame the night kills. By that I mean, with TINAS's death, if I didn't speak up first it would be easy to present a situation where when I DID reveal, it would mean I must be Mafia. Sorry, I've had a few drinks, so I'm not sure I'm being clear.

So yeah. I targeted TINAS, and he died. Someone else claimed the same (C.F.?). I'm hoping that as more results come in things will become more clear. Also, supposedly two people targeted me (O, Robz) but I lived. Why did you both target me? What does my survival mean?

Robz,, I think full claims plus a chart will certainly help.

O, as mentioned, I DO agree with you that the word choice "we'll lynch at night if he flips town" was REALLY off key, and a possible tell.

[O]

Here are possible situations:

One of them is the Alchemist (Insane Doctor) and one of them is the Stoned Philosopher (Nothing).
One of them is mafia and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the Golem and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the mafia and the other is the Alchemist.

Any other possibles?

Found some
Golem, Alchemist, <insert any role here>, <insert any role here> was jailkept
Stoned philosopher, <insert any role here>, <insert any role her> was jailkept and a 3rd party targeted TINAS and killed him.

[O]

@Galz, I followed the last set of pairings to be posted before the thread was locked, or Zxbyvn2's

[Galzria]

@Galz, I followed the last set of pairings to be posted before the thread was locked, or Zxbyvn2's

And Robz followed the first set of pairings? Alright. That's WHY I didn't follow any set; nothing was agreed upon to be used. I picked a member of the lynch wagon and activated my doctory power.

With TINAS's death however, the wagon is down to 4 people, one of which is almost assuredly Mafia, and quite possibly both are there.

[O]

Why did you both target me? What does my survival mean?

Well.. I just tried to analyse the Me/Robz on Galzria situation and found it incredibly unfruitful. Deaths look like a much better place to start, apparently. 

[O]

buying a Robz for analysis, I'm bored and would love to see some chart or something.

[Robz888]

Here are possible situations:

One of them is the Alchemist (Insane Doctor) and one of them is the Stoned Philosopher (Nothing).
One of them is mafia and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the Golem and the other is the Stoned Philosopher.
One of them is the mafia and the other is the Alchemist.

Any other possibles?

Found some
Golem, Alchemist, <insert any role here>, <insert any role here> was jailkept
Stoned philosopher, <insert any role here>, <insert any role her> was jailkept and a 3rd party targeted TINAS and killed him.

True, those work. But it still holds that neither Galzria nor Frisk are the True Apothecary or the Apprentice.

[Robz888]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlXaywBh9jOcdDdIS2JFOVNrT2RqZ3BpMndRVWRnVVE