Topic: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS!) (Read 338436 times)

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3300 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:43:25 pm »

Hey - RobZ - stop trying to get into newb games and get over here.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3301 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:49:04 pm »

I'm here. Wow.

I did expect you to claim Serial Killer. But if you shot Axxle, who is a VT, the only way he survived was if you were roleblocked or jailkept or something. I have to check to see who Glooble roleblocked Night 3...

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3302 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:51:47 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on July 13, 2012, 01:49:04 pm

I'm here. Wow.

I did expect you to claim Serial Killer. But if you shot Axxle, who is a VT, the only way he survived was if you were roleblocked or jailkept or something. I have to check to see who Glooble roleblocked Night 3...

Glooble "claims" to have roleblocked Axxle.

The mafia knows I'm the SK - and blocked me twice. This is why they want to kill me - because they win.

They can't claim that though (because then I look like the SK) - which is why Glooble has only claimed to have blocked me once.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3303 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:58:12 pm »

Here were SK Frisk's targets:

Quote from: Captain_Frisk on July 13, 2012, 12:07:37 pm

All right guys - I hate to make kings - but I'm at least going to keep the game going.

I am the serial killer.

Night 1 - I killed theorel
Night 2 - I killed Galzria
Night 3 - I targeted Axxle
Night 3 - I targeted RobZ (typo, should read Night 4)

I propose lynching DSell - and letting Glooble proove his innocence by blocking me. I'll direct my kill at anyone else town prefers.

Here were Roleblocker Glooble's targets:

Quote from: Glooble on July 09, 2012, 04:35:29 pm

Night one I blocked Grujah. He looked the scummiest to me coming out of day one.

Night two I blocked pops. His response to Galz's SK hunt looked scummy to me, and I still hadn't been won over to his general playstyle. He seemed as good a candidate to me as any.

Night three I blocked Axxle, and last night I blocked Frisk.

Frisk, why target Axxle on Night 3? This was the night that Dsell had been instructed to shoot Axxle. You wanted to double shoot him?

Glooble · « **Reply #3304 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:58:29 pm »

And now I understand why you claimed to have targeted Axxle. I was thinking it was monumentally stupid, but it's actually quite smart if you're trying to make me look bad.

Glooble · « **Reply #3305 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:59:23 pm »

But of course now you have to explain why you shot Axxle if he was probably going to die anyway. Why would you waste a kill like that?

SwitchedFromStarcraft · « **Reply #3306 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:04:21 pm »

Deeper and deeper we go.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3307 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:07:28 pm »

At the time - DSell's claim was plausible.

I suspected that Axxle was mafia (didn't we all?). So - if dsell was telling the truth - then axxle knew he was going to be protected by roleblocking. If DSell was lying - then he wasn't going to shoot Axxle.

If Axxle turned out to be town - then there was no way for there to be 3 kills - and DSell couldn't clear himself.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3308 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:14:52 pm »

Listen guys - bottom line is that lynching me loses town the game.

I wrestled with whether or not to let it happen, or to claim. I decided that staying silent was king making - and claiming would at least let you guys debate it out.

If you guys still lynch me - well then the loss is on you - this is a 100% trueclaim - I didn't even mix up my targets to better frame anyone.

SwitchedFromStarcraft · « **Reply #3309 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:19:05 pm »

Quote from: Captain_Frisk on July 13, 2012, 02:14:52 pm

Listen guys - bottom line is that lynching me loses town the game.

I wrestled with whether or not to let it happen, or to claim. I decided that staying silent was king making - and claiming would at least let you guys debate it out.

If you guys still lynch me - well then the loss is on you - this is a 100% trueclaim - I didn't even mix up my targets to better frame anyone.

Robz - I want to let you know that I now understand why you got tired of hearing me say I was a newb early in the game.

Frisk - We are all aware that if we lose it's on us, or me, or whoever. You don't need to keep saying it.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3310 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:21:52 pm »

Quote from: SwitchedFromStarcraft on July 13, 2012, 02:19:05 pm

Frisk - We are all aware that if we lose it's on us, or me, or whoever. You don't need to keep saying it.

No - i wasn't calling you out specifically - but all town. I'm just saying that by doing this - I'm at least letting the game continue vs. just handing it to one team.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3311 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:22:18 pm »

Frisk, I want to believe your claim. And I truly expected you to make it. But the fact remains that you would make it regardless.

Why did you kill Theorel?

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3312 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:25:37 pm »

On day 1 - theorel kept mentioning the Serial Killer possibility. I took a chance that he was mafia with 2 teammates - and thus knew that there was probably an SK.

I also figured there wasn't much of an issue with being wrong

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3313 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:29:13 pm »

On Galz - I was really hoping he was mafia - but I kindof suspected he was town.

I couldn't kill Pops, Jonah, or DSell because we were all in the same pod of O non-voters.

Galz was going to drive for my lynch the next day - and well I just couldn't have that. I figured that if I needed to - I'd just point out how incredibly obvious it would be to kill the dude who FOS'd me with his dying breath and pray. I truly did not expect to live through that day.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3314 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:44:30 pm »

Well, your explanations sound sincere. Not too long or overly rehearsed. They read as easily recalled things, not made up things. Point for you.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3315 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:52:20 pm »

You were my least thought out target. Since I expected to be blocked anyway because Mafia already knew who I was - it didn't really matter. You seemed like plausible mafia... and I'd probably still think you are most likely until Glooble claimed.

Again - the consequences of being wrong as a serial killer are very low. If we started today 2-2-1 vs. 3-1-1, those are about the same to me. Earlier I really wanted to hit mafia. Once you guys lynched O (boy was I angry about that) - it went back to being kindof neutral regarding who I hit.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #3316 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:53:30 pm »

Angry because I really expected him to be town - and it left me looking like the wrong flavor of scum - when NOBODY suspected me during the tables investigation.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3317 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:54:07 pm »

Okay, let's see if Dsell counterclaims Serial Killer.

Vote: Dsell

Voltgloss · « **Reply #3318 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:55:45 pm »

Vote Count 5-3

Captain_Frisk (2): Dsell, SwitchedFromStarcraft
Dsell (2): Captain_Frisk, Robz888

Not voting {2}: Tables, Glooble

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

Lynch Deadline: Monday, July 23, at 7:00 a.m. EDT

Tables · « **Reply #3319 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:56:34 pm »

Unvote DSell. NOW

Tables · « **Reply #3320 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:56:58 pm »

Right now that's there, we have TWO people at L-2. Mafia could quicklynch EITHER. This is not good.

Robz888 · « **Reply #3321 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:59:04 pm »

Unvote: Dsell

Robz888 · « **Reply #3322 on:** July 13, 2012, 04:00:08 pm »

Quote from: Tables on July 13, 2012, 03:56:58 pm

Right now that's there, we have TWO people at L-2. Mafia could quicklynch EITHER. This is not good.

Only if both the mafia are neither Dsell, nor Frisk, which has zero chance I think. But fine.

Tables · « **Reply #3323 on:** July 13, 2012, 04:01:13 pm »

AAAnd now I can start actually doing analysis. Also size 7 is apparently bigger than I imagined. Oops.

I don't believe Frisk's claim for a second. His night 3 doesn't make sense with the current roles we've been told. DSell would shoot Axxle regardless of if Mafia or town. But DSell could be blocked by mafia roleblocker. Glooble blocked Axxle night 3, which did nothing as he doesn't have a role. So unless the doctor was monumentally stupid, Frisk's story fails.

Robz: Hmm... yes, actually, you make a good point. I overreacted.

Tables · « **Reply #3324 on:** July 13, 2012, 04:03:08 pm »

Also for reference:

Quote from: Voltgloss on June 01, 2012, 10:11:02 pm

Town Bureaucrat {Roleblocker}
Welcome to Mafia IV!

DEAC section 781.3(b) provides that, upon the catastrophic illness, dismemberment, or dissolving of an Estate-holder or higher status, immediate command of municipal and local staff passes temporarily to the highest-ranking town official on hand. Fortunately, no one here knows that, so you were able to quote the regulations on "no hay baling after 9 on Tuesdays" to get the Estate servants listening to you instead. Not that they're going to help you find the Mafia. The best they can do is get in someone's way. But there's an infestation of them, and only a few of you leaders who could actually be the Mafia, and so maybe having the staff cowed by your encyclopaedic knowledge of the wage and hour code isn't such a bad thing. People talk about "obstruction of justice." You know that, in the right hands, obstruction IS justice.

You are a Townie, a Town Bureaucrat {Roleblocker}.

Each night, you may select a player in the game to roleblock. They will not be able to perform an action at night if they have one.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town player alive.

No protection. Just blocking.

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