Topic: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS!) (Read 338343 times)

Dsell · « **Reply #2825 on:** July 03, 2012, 06:37:54 pm »

Quote from: Axxle on July 03, 2012, 06:12:29 pm

Quote from: Dsell on July 03, 2012, 06:08:45 pm
Unless I get any serious objections and brings them to us quickly (before the hammer), I will be using my shot on Axxle tonight.

Quote from: Axxle on July 03, 2012, 04:25:47 pm
if we lynch Joth, and he's scum I'd rather shoot Glooble or pops more than anyone else.

Of course, my opinion hardly matters. I'm VT FWIW.

Sorry Axxle, I meant to include you in that post about whether people have objections.

jotheonah · « **Reply #2826 on:** July 03, 2012, 06:42:53 pm »

...Suddenly everyone was run over by a speeding bus.

"The eagles!" exclaimed Bilbo. "The eagles are coming!"

SwitchedFromStarcraft · « **Reply #2827 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:05:48 pm »

Just so I'm clear, we are lynching Jo, and Dsell is shooting who exactly?

Also, when Dsell shoots X, if X doesnt die, what comes next? I need someone to spell both of these out for me, cause I'm ready for Jo to go, but I feel like my vote is also a vote for the plan in toto.

Dsell · « **Reply #2828 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:10:41 pm »

I don't believe there's a solid plan, and I'm not sure if everyone would agree on one if there were. There are too many variables: How the lynchee flips, who the mafia and SK kill IF anyone, how they flip, and how the person I shoot flips if the shot is successful.

Dsell · « **Reply #2829 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:11:11 pm »

Oh, but the current plan is for me to shoot Axxle.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #2830 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:15:46 pm »

Quote from: SwitchedFromStarcraft on July 03, 2012, 08:05:48 pm

Just so I'm clear, we are lynching Jo, and Dsell is shooting who exactly?

Also, when Dsell shoots X, if X doesnt die, what comes next? I need someone to spell both of these out for me, cause I'm ready for Jo to go, but I feel like my vote is also a vote for the plan in toto.

We're lynching Jo - and DSell is shooting Axxle.

Here is what we learn with the Axxleflip:

If Axxle + 1 other person dies - then we don't learn much. DSell may still be mafia and a serial killer killed someone else. DSell may be a serial killer - and the mafia killed someone else. DSell may be telling the truth, and there was a random protection.

If Axxle + 2 other people dies - then DSell is about as confirmed town as you are (for it to be false - there would need to be another vig who didn't claim today and then shot tonight)

If Axxle + nobody dies - then DSell is likely mafia - and we lynch him.

If Axxle doesn't die - then we have a wifom debate as to whether DSell was Roleblocked or if Axxle is a Bulletproof Serial Killer. Presumably a doctor won't be protecting Axxle.

There is no plan after that point - we will all point fingers at eachother, debate the finer points of wine that is in front of us, and probably mass roleclaim.

SwitchedFromStarcraft · « **Reply #2831 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:17:28 pm »

Jo, since you apparently ARE about to die, who do you think we should shoot and why?

Follow up question: If that someone is not Axxle or Frisk, then between Axxle and Frisk, who would you shoot, and why?

SwitchedFromStarcraft · « **Reply #2832 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:24:10 pm »

Robz and Tables: Do both of you believe Axxle is a better choice to shoot than Frisk? If so, why?

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #2833 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:25:26 pm »

@SFS - Your questions indicate that you believe I am a better choice than Axxle. Why?

popsofctown · « **Reply #2834 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:36:09 pm »

Why the heck are you guys lynching Jo?

This is dumb.

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #2835 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:37:16 pm »

Quote from: popsofctown on July 03, 2012, 08:36:09 pm

Why the heck are you guys lynching Jo?

This is dumb.

Well - we're going to shoot Axxle2 too - so you get something too... right?

popsofctown · « **Reply #2836 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:40:24 pm »

Yeah. I guess.
It's still dumb. If you really want to lynch a wundertwin, Glooble should be first

Captain_Frisk · « **Reply #2837 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:45:08 pm »

Quote from: popsofctown on July 03, 2012, 08:40:24 pm

Yeah. I guess.
It's still dumb. If you really want to lynch a wundertwin, Glooble should be first

J has the bad voting history and the bad behavior (self voting). Glooble has nothing except being an eager beaver on wagons.

Tables · « **Reply #2838 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:57:20 pm »

I have to agree with Pops here. Give me time. Someone unvote in the meantime just to give me time to collect my thoughts

Dsell · « **Reply #2839 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:59:14 pm »

Unvote

Tables · « **Reply #2840 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:00:50 pm »

Okay, Glooble, you're online. You might have answered this before, but I really need to know, exactly how confident are you that Joth is town, just based on your gutread? What do you make of his playstyle difference from yesterday to today?

Tables · « **Reply #2841 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:01:24 pm »

Thanks, DSell. I'm still looking over some other stuff so I might just come back and throw the L-1 vote on myself, but ideally I'd like Glooble to answer that question first.

Axxle · « **Reply #2842 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:03:55 pm »

If Joth is town then CF is town because he had the option to hammer yesterday.

Axxle · « **Reply #2843 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:05:03 pm »

And the entirety of the Joth wagon will look scummier. I think Joth is both likely to be mafia and in the unlikely event he's not, will give us some nice information.

Axxle · « **Reply #2844 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:05:38 pm »

Quote from: Axxle on July 03, 2012, 09:05:03 pm

And the entirety of the Joth wagon will look scummier. I think Joth is both likely to be mafia and in the unlikely event he's not, will give us some nice information.

*his Day2 wagon will look scummier

Glooble · « **Reply #2845 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:07:08 pm »

How confident? I admit its been waning. At this point, I would say I'm 90% confident he's not mafia. Maybe 70% confident he's town. Other 20% for SK possibility.

Axxle · « **Reply #2846 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:11:35 pm »

Quote from: Axxle on July 03, 2012, 09:03:55 pm

If Joth is town then CF is town because he had the option to hammer yesterday.

Quote from: Axxle on July 03, 2012, 09:05:03 pm

And the entirety of the Joth wagon will look scummier. I think Joth is both likely to be mafia and in the unlikely event he's not, will give us some nice information.

This is the situation I'm referring to, although I doubt you guys forget:

Quote from: Voltgloss on June 20, 2012, 07:19:30 pm

Vote Count 2-13A
jotheonah (5): Dsell, Tables, Robz888, Axxle, Galzria

Quote from: Captain_Frisk on June 20, 2012, 07:44:32 pm

Quote from: jotheonah on June 20, 2012, 07:19:43 pm
And I'm sorry this is being seen as defensive. Perhaps this will help?

Unvote.

Vote: jtotheonah

When I flip town, lynch Axxle and/or whoever drops this hammer.

I want to hmmer on principal. Not going to iPhone hammer though.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2847 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:13:34 pm »

Quote from: Glooble on July 03, 2012, 09:07:08 pm

How confident? I admit its been waning. At this point, I would say I'm 90% confident he's not mafia. Maybe 70% confident he's town. Other 20% for SK possibility.

70% confident he's town? Strikes me as ludicrous overconfidence.

Tables · « **Reply #2848 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:14:18 pm »

Hmm... well, at this point, I'm actually concerned about the speed Robz tried to push things, and that's still reasonable confidence; given Glooble is town then there's a 90% chance Joth is town, assuming Glooble is assessing things well... and Axxle seems happy to push things along now as well.

There's a lot of evidence on both sides of this, methinks. I'm hesitant to do it, but Vote: Joth. I'm still leaning towards town for Frisk and SFS, neutral on Pops, Glooble and Robz (I think he has a decent chance of being the SK, but very low chance of being mafia), scum (currently) on DSell, Joth, Axxle. Just so people know, in case I bite it during the night.

Tables · « **Reply #2849 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:14:36 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on July 03, 2012, 09:13:34 pm

Quote from: Glooble on July 03, 2012, 09:07:08 pm
How confident? I admit its been waning. At this point, I would say I'm 90% confident he's not mafia. Maybe 70% confident he's town. Other 20% for SK possibility.

70% confident he's town? Strikes me as ludicrous overconfidence.

Coming from you, Robz...

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