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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1702 on: June 19, 2012, 04:56:14 pm »

UNVOTE:
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Tell me about it. You don't even know how much it pains me.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1703 on: June 19, 2012, 04:57:30 pm »

What a sham Bastard Mafia II is now.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1704 on: June 19, 2012, 04:58:07 pm »

hey, hey, do the rules of that game let you talk about it outside its thread?

I bet they don't.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1705 on: June 19, 2012, 04:58:24 pm »

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1706 on: June 19, 2012, 04:58:43 pm »

that game has rules?
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1707 on: June 19, 2012, 05:00:22 pm »

It's not so much apathy as resignation. (And I'm not so much feigning it, but experiencing it).
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1708 on: June 19, 2012, 05:06:56 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

A major reason is that he's less valuable to the town than Pops or Galz might be.  And he's basically resigned to keep playing as he is.

is that the 4th vote?
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« Reply #1709 on: June 19, 2012, 05:08:12 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

A major reason is that he's less valuable to the town than Pops or Galz might be.  And he's basically resigned to keep playing as he is.

is that the 4th vote?

Please explain the point that Pops might be valueable to town. 
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1710 on: June 19, 2012, 05:11:57 pm »

Pay close attention to who is and isn't derailing this on to me right now. When I flip town I think you'll find it interesting.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1711 on: June 19, 2012, 05:12:20 pm »

Well, he's experienced. And if his posts aren't indicative of mafia play--they aren't to me--they are hopefully indicative of highly intelligent town play, and he might have very good info for us next round.

Anyway, Jo just parrots whoever is making a case against someone, as long as that someone isn't him. And as soon as Jo gets any heat, he retreats into whatever territory. And then he comes out of it and gets active again. I'm ready to burn him for good.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1712 on: June 19, 2012, 05:12:46 pm »

^First part of that is about Pops.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1713 on: June 19, 2012, 05:13:16 pm »

@mod: Can we get prods for Switched From Starcraft and Grujah and anyone else who haven't posted in 48 hours.

PEdit: @CF: his posts seem lucid when he wants to be.  Almost anyone is an asset compared to J at the moment, except for maybe Grujah.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1714 on: June 19, 2012, 05:17:32 pm »

@mod: Can we get prods for Switched From Starcraft and Grujah and anyone else who haven't posted in 48 hours.

PEdit: @CF: his posts seem lucid when he wants to be.  Almost anyone is an asset compared to J at the moment, except for maybe Grujah.

Hard to argue with this.  Every time J posts, all he does is make me question whatever point he's trying to make.  That said, my spider sense tingles with trying to lynch him.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1715 on: June 19, 2012, 05:19:42 pm »

I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. I am perfectly lucid. Ask me anything and I will answer honestly.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1716 on: June 19, 2012, 05:51:16 pm »

UNVOTE

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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1717 on: June 19, 2012, 05:53:03 pm »

I'm still trusting Glooble's read on his twin brother.

I might be useful tomorrow, but usually if i play a game in the rut I stay in the rut.  Can't seem to figure much of anything out here
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1718 on: June 19, 2012, 06:01:04 pm »

UNVOTE

Your unvote has exploded the universe, and now there is nobody left alive. The vacuum of space is deafening.

Twas the unvote heard round the world.
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« Reply #1719 on: June 19, 2012, 06:20:17 pm »

UNVOTE

Your unvote has exploded the universe, and now there is nobody left alive. The vacuum of space is deafening.

Twas the unvote heard round the world.

I think we should all lynch Robz for being disingenuous. We all know Robz would never unvote, so he must be hiding something. Certainly a very scummy thing to do. {bold}fakevote: Robz888{SLASHbold}.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1720 on: June 19, 2012, 06:29:31 pm »

I was really hoping Galz's case against pops would convince me that one or the other was mafia. It didn't. made me more suspicious of both, and now I don't know what to think.  I see a few possibilities:

We lynch Galz or pops

Lynching either of them just seems so high risk/ high reward to me: Pretty good chance of scum, but if not scum then we lose a really useful player. Of the two I am leaning more towards trusting Galz and lynching pops. If pops comes up town I will be reasonably certain Galz is scum. If Galz comes up town, I would be less inclined to immediately lynch pops.

We Lynch me (This could also apply to Grujah, but I'm the one whose had votes on him)

Lynching me would kind of be a wash - I know I'm town, but I'm also willing to concede I haven't been the most helpful town. I don't think my lynch would give the town much information. Few people have interacted with me in any meaningful way. And most of the people who have suspected me are people I have pretty strong town read on (not all, but most.) The thing is, just about anything true of lynching me is more true of option three, which is:

We lynch jotheonah

I still think jo is town, but his erratic behavior is just going to keep giving everyone false reads until we lynch him. I'm afraid the twinclaim just made the confusion even worse. If he is town, the mafia still sure as hell won't nightkill him, and so we'll keep having this same conversation every day, since most of you are not going to suddenly start trusting him. I'm not relishing that scenario.

So that's where I am now. I'm not placing a vote, because I'm not certain enough about any of these options, and I don't believe on supporting a bandwagon just because it's not on me. But I think we should either lynch jo (sorry bro) as kind of a psuedopolicy lynch, and I say pseudo because at least 2 of you genuinely believe he's scum, or take a risk on pops or Galz (I am like 80% sure one or the the other of them is mafia at this point.)

I'm going to a friends house for dinner and will be off the rest of the night. I'll check back in tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #1721 on: June 19, 2012, 07:01:22 pm »

I was really hoping Galz's case against pops would convince me that one or the other was mafia. It didn't. made me more suspicious of both, and now I don't know what to think.  I see a few possibilities:

We lynch Galz or pops

Lynching either of them just seems so high risk/ high reward to me: Pretty good chance of scum, but if not scum then we lose a really useful player. Of the two I am leaning more towards trusting Galz and lynching pops. If pops comes up town I will be reasonably certain Galz is scum. If Galz comes up town, I would be less inclined to immediately lynch pops.

We Lynch me (This could also apply to Grujah, but I'm the one whose had votes on him)

Lynching me would kind of be a wash - I know I'm town, but I'm also willing to concede I haven't been the most helpful town. I don't think my lynch would give the town much information. Few people have interacted with me in any meaningful way. And most of the people who have suspected me are people I have pretty strong town read on (not all, but most.) The thing is, just about anything true of lynching me is more true of option three, which is:

We lynch jotheonah

I still think jo is town, but his erratic behavior is just going to keep giving everyone false reads until we lynch him. I'm afraid the twinclaim just made the confusion even worse. If he is town, the mafia still sure as hell won't nightkill him, and so we'll keep having this same conversation every day, since most of you are not going to suddenly start trusting him. I'm not relishing that scenario.

So that's where I am now. I'm not placing a vote, because I'm not certain enough about any of these options, and I don't believe on supporting a bandwagon just because it's not on me. But I think we should either lynch jo (sorry bro) as kind of a psuedopolicy lynch, and I say pseudo because at least 2 of you genuinely believe he's scum, or take a risk on pops or Galz (I am like 80% sure one or the the other of them is mafia at this point.)

I'm going to a friends house for dinner and will be off the rest of the night. I'll check back in tomorrow morning.

Lynch 40% scum or lynch 90% town. What a tough decision you have.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1722 on: June 19, 2012, 07:13:24 pm »

I was really hoping Galz's case against pops would convince me that one or the other was mafia. It didn't. made me more suspicious of both, and now I don't know what to think.  I see a few possibilities:

We lynch Galz or pops

Lynching either of them just seems so high risk/ high reward to me: Pretty good chance of scum, but if not scum then we lose a really useful player. Of the two I am leaning more towards trusting Galz and lynching pops. If pops comes up town I will be reasonably certain Galz is scum. If Galz comes up town, I would be less inclined to immediately lynch pops.

We Lynch me (This could also apply to Grujah, but I'm the one whose had votes on him)

Lynching me would kind of be a wash - I know I'm town, but I'm also willing to concede I haven't been the most helpful town. I don't think my lynch would give the town much information. Few people have interacted with me in any meaningful way. And most of the people who have suspected me are people I have pretty strong town read on (not all, but most.) The thing is, just about anything true of lynching me is more true of option three, which is:

We lynch jotheonah

I still think jo is town, but his erratic behavior is just going to keep giving everyone false reads until we lynch him. I'm afraid the twinclaim just made the confusion even worse. If he is town, the mafia still sure as hell won't nightkill him, and so we'll keep having this same conversation every day, since most of you are not going to suddenly start trusting him. I'm not relishing that scenario.

So that's where I am now. I'm not placing a vote, because I'm not certain enough about any of these options, and I don't believe on supporting a bandwagon just because it's not on me. But I think we should either lynch jo (sorry bro) as kind of a psuedopolicy lynch, and I say pseudo because at least 2 of you genuinely believe he's scum, or take a risk on pops or Galz (I am like 80% sure one or the the other of them is mafia at this point.)

I'm going to a friends house for dinner and will be off the rest of the night. I'll check back in tomorrow morning.

I hope your trimming that hedge near the fence you're sitting on.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1723 on: June 19, 2012, 07:19:26 pm »

Where's Volt? I need a vote count! I need to know if...

In all honesty, I'm just curious where we stand. I wouldn't mind switching to Jo, but I want to hear from at least O first. And I would rather lynch Pops still.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1724 on: June 19, 2012, 09:18:27 pm »

Vote Count 2-12

Captain_Frisk (1): O
Galzria (1): popsofctown
O (1): SwitchedFromStarcraft
jotheonah (4): Dsell, Tables, Robz888, Axxle
popsofctown (2): Galzria, jotheonah

Not voting {3}: Glooble, Grujah, Captain_Frisk

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Lynch Deadline:  Monday, June 25, 9:59 a.m. EDT
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