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[Galzria]

Pretty sure we aren't getting anywhere new and interesting until day 1 ends. I like mafia after day 1 alot more than day 1 mafia

It would be nice to get a post longer than 5 lines long from you. Might help us get somewhere new.

No, he's doing it right, it's best for scum to say as little as possible.

I thought we all agreed with Captain Frisk, and that scum were supposed to stay in the middle of post count/length? [/sarcasm].

I remain unconvinced by the strawman arguments against Axxle. Popsofctown is still my vote.

I'm not surprised.

[Glooble]

Pretty sure we aren't getting anywhere new and interesting until day 1 ends. I like mafia after day 1 alot more than day 1 mafia

This is actually one of the main reasons I'm thinking strongly about voting Axxle.

Reading back, I just realized Galzria has been building a case against Axxle since page 7 (post 166) before many of us had even logged on. In that case he's upset because Axxle is shutting down discussions about theory. This supports my previous post - by posting the articles then discouraging theoretical discussion, it moves the new players even more towards "play Mafia in this certain way".

Controlling other people's play style is far more useful for scum than for town.

Galz has been riding Axxle hard (Look back, you'll see him voting Axxle at least four times, posts 166,201,258 and the most recent one which I can't find right now). If Axxle flips town, I feel like Galz will have a big red target painted on his back in day 2. Just an observation.

[Axxle]

I think Galz and my difference in philosophy in how the game should start made him very critical of my posts.  If I flip town I don't want him to be an automatic lynch, you should evaluate all the players on their own merit.

I strongly agree with this statement by Theorel, and was actually going to bring it up myself if I got closer to being lynched:

I'm a little worried Axxle is town, and the mafia are steering clear.  i.e. this is a town-wagon, but it's against town.  There are already 8 people suspicious of Axxle (Glooble, Tables, and me as current non-voters).  If he's town, and mafia just steer-clear they may need to supply only 0-or-1 votes and watch the fallout.

[O]

I think Galz and my difference in philosophy in how the game should start made him very critical of my posts.  If I flip town I don't want him to be an automatic lynch, you should evaluate all the players on their own merit.

I strongly agree with this statement by Theorel, and was actually going to bring it up myself if I got closer to being lynched:

I'm a little worried Axxle is town, and the mafia are steering clear.  i.e. this is a town-wagon, but it's against town.  There are already 8 people suspicious of Axxle (Glooble, Tables, and me as current non-voters).  If he's town, and mafia just steer-clear they may need to supply only 0-or-1 votes and watch the fallout.

Really? It sounds mostly like Theorel is covering himself and deflecting suspicions elsewhere.

I mean, if mafia were to lead a bandwagon against someone and it stalled, that's exactly what they would say when the person flipped town.

[O]

post-Edit: Theorel hasn't even voted for Axxle..

[popsofctown]

"If I flip town" can be simplified to "if I flip" or "if I'm lynched", when the person speaking is town.  Sometimes these little Freudian things turn out well, sometimes they don't.  But  like the bonus points here.

[popsofctown]

Hey O while you're here y u no wanna be frayends?

[O]

Hey O while you're here y u no wanna be frayends?

Don't worry, I'm planning to switch to Theorel...

actually, I'm not planning

Vote: Theorel for trying to set up a cover for himself before he votes for Axxle, who he knows is town.

[popsofctown]

Does that mean we're frayends now?

[O]

Does that mean we're frayends now?

we're frenemies

[Galzria]

Does that mean we're frayends now?

we're frenemies

O doesn't trust anybody outside of shooting range.

[O]

Post moar guise

1) We need to overtake Mafia III in post count
2) Isotropic is still down.

[Galzria]

By the way, Glooble, I have NOT voted Axxle 4 times.

I did in  posts: #166, #258, and #760.

The first vote was a feeler vote. The second because I reconsidered his responses to the first (post #201 that you site was actually the UNVOTE inbetween). The last one was only after he posted his comment on "theory" to push a stalling lynch along. A stance on said "theory" he refused to give early on (and was the cause for my original vote).

If you're going to setup redirectional arguments at me, please get them right.

[Galzria]

Post moar guise

1) We need to overtake Mafia III in post count
2) Isotropic is still down.

 http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

Top 10 topics by reply's.

Gogogo!

[O]

By the way, Glooble, I have NOT voted Axxle 4 times.

I did in  posts: #166, #258, and #760.

The first vote was a feeler vote. The second because I reconsidered his responses to the first (post #201 that you site was actually the UNVOTE inbetween). The last one was only after he posted his comment on "theory" to push a stalling lynch along. A stance on said "theory" he refused to give early on (and was the cause for my original vote).

If you're going to setup redirectional arguments at me, please get them right.

I say we break Galzria again! It's such a fun activity.

[Galzria]

By the way, Glooble, I have NOT voted Axxle 4 times.

I did in  posts: #166, #258, and #760.

The first vote was a feeler vote. The second because I reconsidered his responses to the first (post #201 that you site was actually the UNVOTE inbetween). The last one was only after he posted his comment on "theory" to push a stalling lynch along. A stance on said "theory" he refused to give early on (and was the cause for my original vote).

If you're going to setup redirectional arguments at me, please get them right.

I say we break Galzria again! It's such a fun activity.

Cheers to that.

[Axxle]

J, I believe the people who SAY things that are Pro-Town, but DO things that invariably have a divisive outcome to appear scummy. I look for people who's actions don't meet their words.

Galzria, who would you say matches this most, just curious.

[O]

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

[Axxle]

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

Me or everyone?

I don't mind it, but if Theorel is scum, it's more likely he's covering for his mafiapals instead of planning on voting for me.

[Galzria]

J, I believe the people who SAY things that are Pro-Town, but DO things that invariably have a divisive outcome to appear scummy. I look for people who's actions don't meet their words.

Galzria, who would you say matches this most, just curious.

Well, you for starters. It's the core to my vote and argument against you. I feel that your use of "theory" (If we should continue D1 when we could lynch for the "sole purpose" of continuing discussion) post went against your words early on of such information being irrelevant.

I have no problem with your belief in and of itself, and had you stated it way back at post #100, I would never have voted for you the first time. But timing is everything, and your usage of that platform came at a time when it *could have* (and was obviously meant to) had an impact.

After you, it's a tossup. Dsell has some interesting things going on (outside of misinterpretations by others). So does Theorel. J certainly raises flags still. But right now you're top of my list.

[O]

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

Me or everyone?

I don't mind it, but if Theorel is scum, it's more likely he's covering for his mafiapals instead of planning on voting for me.

maybe. It'd be an interesting gambit though

[Axxle]

J, I believe the people who SAY things that are Pro-Town, but DO things that invariably have a divisive outcome to appear scummy. I look for people who's actions don't meet their words.

Galzria, who would you say matches this most, just curious.

Well, you for starters. It's the core to my vote and argument against you. I feel that your use of "theory" (If we should continue D1 when we could lynch for the "sole purpose" of continuing discussion) post went against your words early on of such information being irrelevant.

I have no problem with your belief in and of itself, and had you stated it way back at post #100, I would never have voted for you the first time. But timing is everything, and your usage of that platform came at a time when it *could have* (and was obviously meant to) had an impact.

After you, it's a tossup. Dsell has some interesting things going on (outside of misinterpretations by others). So does Theorel. J certainly raises flags still. But right now you're top of my list.

Ok, if you said anyone other than me I'd have been surprised.  I wanted to make sure that you are actually following your philosophy.  What specifically have the others done that is counter to what they say?

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

Me or everyone?

I don't mind it, but if Theorel is scum, it's more likely he's covering for his mafiapals instead of planning on voting for me.

maybe. It'd be an interesting gambit though

I'd say as soon as he said it, it would completely invalidate the thought for anyone who votes for me afterwards including him, since mafia now have the idea.

[Dsell]

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

Other than covering himself for (maybe) voting for Axxle in the future, is there anything Theorel's done to make you think he's mafia instead of town? I was getting a strong town read on him for a while, and while he has been annoying more recently I still suspect he's town. He's definitely said a few things that have struck me wrong but that could be because he has badly misrepresented me. But I definitely don't think he's nearly as suspicious as jotheonah.

[Axxle]

What specifically have the others done that is counter to what they say?

Off the top of your head of course, I don't need or want you to dig up quotes.

[Axxle]

ynoresponsetomyTheorelvote?

Other than covering himself for (maybe) voting for Axxle in the future, is there anything Theorel's done to make you think he's mafia instead of town? I was getting a strong town read on him for a while, and while he has been annoying more recently I still suspect he's town. He's definitely said a few things that have struck me wrong but that could be because he has badly misrepresented me. But I definitely don't think he's nearly as suspicious as jotheonah.

I really need to set the time to look through Theorel's posts again and see if he's misrepresenting anyone else.  That bothered me too.