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Author Topic: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS!)  (Read 334653 times)

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #275 on: June 04, 2012, 05:40:10 pm »

I note that O did not respond to my vote, but did, in the next few posts vote for two different folks in quick succession.

Disregard for a newbie's opinion? Perhaps.
Deflection of attention? HMMM, interesting thought.

More that one vote doesn't concern me, and that I'm not voting randomly (by the rickroll) anymore so your point was completely moot.

Deflection of attention? I bask in attention in Mafia games, thank you very much. 
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #276 on: June 04, 2012, 05:40:14 pm »

I am comfortable with a quicktopic existing

As am I.  I am not comfortable with a f.ds discussion topic - unless it just contains a link to the quicktopic - is spoilered - and locked.  EVERY TIME i the M3 Discussion board jump up - it irks me that I can't read it.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #277 on: June 04, 2012, 05:41:54 pm »

VOLTGLOSS - Can you tell us newbies what the purpose and potential use of the discussion thread is, and why would someone potentially object?
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« Reply #278 on: June 04, 2012, 05:42:05 pm »

Also SFS, I am highly offended that you are not using an abbreviation for my name. I demand you create one.
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« Reply #279 on: June 04, 2012, 05:43:01 pm »

I am not suspicious of him for voting a lurker.  Read my posts.

Ok, ok I read them and maybe I was oversimplifying, but doesn't that make Green Opal just as suspicious? I mean insomniac obviously has different reasons for using his vote than you do, but we just had like a whole page of trollvotes. I just do NOT find a vote to get a lurker to talk suspicious. I'm not gonna do it myself but I find it odd that you are really serious about your vote.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #280 on: June 04, 2012, 05:44:36 pm »

I'm ok with a quick topic

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #281 on: June 04, 2012, 05:45:38 pm »

I am down with the QT, yo.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #282 on: June 04, 2012, 05:45:51 pm »

People I'd like to vote for but can't because I have one vote and Axxle hasn't responded yet:

Insomniac
Theorel (the only Dark Horse left)
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« Reply #283 on: June 04, 2012, 05:47:16 pm »

People I'd like to vote for but can't because I have one vote and Axxle hasn't responded yet:

Insomniac
Theorel (the only Dark Horse left)

Glooble?
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #284 on: June 04, 2012, 05:47:31 pm »

People I'd like to vote for but can't because I have one vote and Axxle hasn't responded yet:

Insomniac
Theorel (the only Dark Horse left)

Seriously, though, give people a chance to (A) get home from work and (B) read the 11 and a half million pages we've already generated.
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« Reply #285 on: June 04, 2012, 05:47:39 pm »

I might use . instead.  That wouldnt cause much problem would it?

OK, it's not going to be possible for me to play this game without humor.  It's who I am, and the game is supposed to be fun.  I typed and deleted (about 3 times) in my opening post the following, and should have just left it in:

I will be using humor (and potentially emoticons) in my posts.  If that gets me lynched, so be it.  This is a game of evaluations, and if I am lynched because I say something intended to be funny, it will help me evaluate my game experience.

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #286 on: June 04, 2012, 05:47:56 pm »

Ok, I have caught up (though by the time I finish typing this there will be 8 million new posts.) In no particular order:

I am fine with the quicktopic.
I have never played forum Mafia, only IRL at parties and things. I have been following MII and MIII pretty religiously though, and had a blast as an observer, trying to predict who might turn up scum.

What else do people want to know? My RL occupation is currently waiting tables because I have no idea what I want to do with my life. My undergrad major was playwriting. I write a lot of plays, short stories and poetry and am engaged in submitting all of these things to contests and journals.

Jo and I are acquainted in real life, but we live in different cities.

So far no one is sticking out to me as particularly suspicious. I'm almost certain Jo's scum claim was facetious, and hell, I might have done the same thing given the setup. O's playstyle seems similar enough to his MIII play that it gives me no useful information. Pops does seem to be being unhelpful and belligerent, but that doesn't really read as scum to me, since I feel like scum would want people to like them.

Green Opal: I assume you have no real suspicion that I am scum, since at the time of your post you had literally nothing to base suspicion on. If you just voted to drag me out of the woodwork, then congratulations - you've succeeded.

I'll be on for an hour or so yet, so you'll probably hear more from me soon.

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« Reply #287 on: June 04, 2012, 05:48:00 pm »

Ok, so a few things about me.

I work in a restaurant. While I am at work (usually 7 in the morning to 3 in the afternoon) I have absolutely no computer access. I am on my feet, waiting tables.

Today I had to wait a very long time for a bus and didn't end up getting home until 5.

I was not expecting to come home on day one to 11 pages of forum! I am up to page eight and decided to post just let you all know I exist, but damn this is a lot to digest. I will sa something substansive as soon as I have read through and caught up.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #288 on: June 04, 2012, 05:48:06 pm »

Glooble posted, but I think it got lost in the flood.
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« Reply #289 on: June 04, 2012, 05:48:38 pm »

@SFS - I am starting to think that O employees a Day 1 strategy equivalent to "Always Play Random" In Rock-Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.

It's unbeatable, but it also doesn't win. 

He doesn't provide enough explicit dirt to get lynched, but he also doesn't provide any information to make anything he says especially trustworthy.  He will live through the day - Mafia won't nightkill him because he's been crazy enough to attract some suspicion - and then he can start playing for real the next day.
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« Reply #290 on: June 04, 2012, 05:48:53 pm »

Oh wow, my quote of Glooble was in response to Galzria thinking he was still a lurker. Don't know why it didn't tell me new posts had come up. Disregard that.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #291 on: June 04, 2012, 05:50:49 pm »

Oh wow, my quote of Glooble was in response to Galzria thinking he was still a lurker. Don't know why it didn't tell me new posts had come up. Disregard that.

Thanks Dsell,, I had missed it.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #292 on: June 04, 2012, 05:51:21 pm »

Unvote. Also, fine with a quicktopic.
I fully understand, Glooble. I'm slightly dreading going to sleep in an hour or so and seeing how much thread there'll be by that point, especially given it was very inconveniently not be a bank holiday then... And yes, my vote was purely for the purpose of gathering information, you've not (yet) said anything to rouse any suspicion from me.
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« Reply #293 on: June 04, 2012, 05:52:21 pm »

@SFS - I am starting to think that O employees a Day 1 strategy equivalent to "Always Play Random" In Rock-Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.

It's unbeatable, but it also doesn't win. 

He doesn't provide enough explicit dirt to get lynched, but he also doesn't provide any information to make anything he says especially trustworthy.  He will live through the day - Mafia won't nightkill him because he's been crazy enough to attract some suspicion - and then he can start playing for real the next day.

Honestly, nobody's ever confronted me with a strategy and convinced me its actually better.

"Be silent and out of the way as VT" seems like crap to me since it just provides a great hole for the mafia to hide under aswell.
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« Reply #294 on: June 04, 2012, 05:53:37 pm »

I'm slightly dreading going to sleep in an hour or so and seeing how much thread there'll be by that point, especially given it was very inconveniently not be a bank holiday then...

Short answer? Don't sleep.
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 1 START!)
« Reply #295 on: June 04, 2012, 05:54:47 pm »

VOLTGLOSS - Can you tell us newbies what the purpose and potential use of the discussion thread is, and why would someone potentially object?

The discussion thread would be for people not playing the game, but reading the thread, to discuss their thoughts/suspicions/wild theories about the goings-on.  Current players would NOT be given access to the quicktopic.  Players who die during the course of the game may ask to join the quicktopic, unless they were Mafia (in which case they would be excluded for having additional information - i.e., knowledge of the other members of their Mafia team).

As to why someone would object - when the idea of discussion topics was first floated, some people had (and still have) objections.  See http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2576.0 for a fulsome discussion of the pros and cons.  I personally do not care either way, which is why I have asked the players themselves to weigh in on whether they are comfortable with a discussion quicktopic existing.
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« Reply #296 on: June 04, 2012, 05:55:36 pm »

Vote: Quicktopic

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« Reply #297 on: June 04, 2012, 05:56:12 pm »

@SFS - I am starting to think that O employees a Day 1 strategy equivalent to "Always Play Random" In Rock-Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.

It's unbeatable, but it also doesn't win. 

He doesn't provide enough explicit dirt to get lynched, but he also doesn't provide any information to make anything he says especially trustworthy.  He will live through the day - Mafia won't nightkill him because he's been crazy enough to attract some suspicion - and then he can start playing for real the next day.

Honestly, nobody's ever confronted me with a strategy and convinced me its actually better.

"Be silent and out of the way as VT" seems like crap to me since it just provides a great hole for the mafia to hide under aswell.

One big issue on Day 1 is that there's 15 of us. We just can't all be crazy active. It leads to ... well, to this madness.
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« Reply #298 on: June 04, 2012, 05:57:18 pm »

@SFS - I am starting to think that O employees a Day 1 strategy equivalent to "Always Play Random" In Rock-Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.

It's unbeatable, but it also doesn't win. 

He doesn't provide enough explicit dirt to get lynched, but he also doesn't provide any information to make anything he says especially trustworthy.  He will live through the day - Mafia won't nightkill him because he's been crazy enough to attract some suspicion - and then he can start playing for real the next day.

Honestly, nobody's ever confronted me with a strategy and convinced me its actually better.

"Be silent and out of the way as VT" seems like crap to me since it just provides a great hole for the mafia to hide under aswell.

One big issue on Day 1 is that there's 15 of us. We just can't all be crazy active. It leads to ... well, to this madness.

I'm not saying we all need to be like me. That'd be terrifying. I'm saying we need SOME people to be like me.

If we're all like me there's still an easy mafia cover.
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« Reply #299 on: June 04, 2012, 05:58:12 pm »

Then again, if only you are like you there's still an easy mafia cover ... for you.
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