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[eHalcyon]

2. Embargo. "Wait, I get a curse just for buying this card? WTF?"

Not sure if you're misunderstanding the card, or if you're saying that newbies tend to misread it.

[zahlman]

2. Embargo. "Wait, I get a curse just for buying this card? WTF?"

Not sure if you're misunderstanding the card, or if you're saying that newbies tend to misread it.

I think he's talking about the long-term effect of the card being played.

[Powerman]

$2 - Fool's Gold , Pawn
$3 - Ambassador , Wishing Well
$4 - Mining Village
$5 - Saboteur , Wharf
$6 - Goons
$7 - King's Court
$2P - Scrying Pool

[eHalcyon]

2. Embargo. "Wait, I get a curse just for buying this card? WTF?"

Not sure if you're misunderstanding the card, or if you're saying that newbies tend to misread it.

I think he's talking about the long-term effect of the card being played.

Oh, "this card" refers to whatever gets Embargoed.  Gotcha.

[One Armed Man]

Here you go:
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Goons
Kings Court
Hoard
Harem
Bank
Nobles
Forge
Adventurer
Possession

When you get 3-5? Oh that hardly ever happens, but get a Silver


Alternately:

Talisman
Throne Room
King's Court
Hoard
Golem
University
Stash
Royal Seal
Contraband
Cache

just look at the interactions!

[zahlman]

Here you go:
Expand
Goons
Kings Court
Hoard
Harem
Bank
Nobles
Forge
Adventurer
Possession

When you get [2]-5? Oh that hardly ever happens, but get a Silver

Aww, come on, you could at least put Cache in there.

Talisman
Throne Room
King's Court
Hoard
Golem
University
Stash
Royal Seal
Contraband
Cache

just look at the interactions!

Does Talisman-BM beat BM in the sims on a 4/3?

[ftl]

no, I don't think so

[qmech]

Adding a single Talisman buy to the BMU bot loses 41% to 50% against plain BMU on a 4/3 start.

[Morgrim7]

Adding a single Talisman buy to the BMU bot loses 41% to 50% against plain BMU on a 4/3 start.

Makes sense, its almost like opening Cppper/Silver. The only thing you could double-gain would be Silvers.

[zahlman]

Makes sense, its almost like opening Cppper/Silver. The only thing you could double-gain would be Silvers.

Yeah, basically I was wondering if the silver gain would eventually catch up; but this also handicaps you from getting Gold, and getting two silvers at $5-including-Talisman is a poor consolation prize.

[BMan]

2. Embargo. "Wait, I get a curse just for buying this card? WTF?"

Not sure if you're misunderstanding the card, or if you're saying that newbies tend to misread it.

I think he's talking about the long-term effect of the card being played.

Yeah, that. Shoulda been clearer.

[Voltaire]

Hmm. I distinctly remember hating mats when I was a new player, so I'd put in at least two of them.