Topic: Mafia III Discussion (Read 8404 times)

theory · « **on:** May 27, 2012, 10:08:18 pm »

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ftl · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:38:28 am »

This is the one with even potential roles not announced?

I bet optimal strategy for Mafia involves a fake roleclaim at some point, with some obscure role. Since a counter-claim is pretty unlikely, and nobody will ever find out if you're lying until you die, since they can't count other power roles as they die.

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:01:16 pm »

Lots of stuff going on so far... how are things supposed to get off the ground day one anyway? I guess the town have some incentive to try to start some kind of discussion, because otherwise the mafia will get to mow them down one by one... which in turn gives the mafia incentive to start discussion, so they look like townies. Also, discussion in general shouldn't really hurt the mafia?

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:03:14 pm »

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Quote from: theory on May 27, 2012, 10:08:18 pm

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Just testing to see if it's possible to put quotes within spoiler tags. Unfortunately it seems you can't?

Thisisnotasmile · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2012, 02:55:02 am »

Quote from: WanderingWinder on May 28, 2012, 08:03:14 pm

Just testing to see if it's possible to put quotes within spoiler tags. Unfortunately it seems you can't?

As long as everything in the quote is in spoiler tags it's okay though, right?

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2012, 09:00:52 am »

Quote from: Thisisnotasmile on May 29, 2012, 02:55:02 am

Quote from: WanderingWinder on May 28, 2012, 08:03:14 pm

Just testing to see if it's possible to put quotes within spoiler tags. Unfortunately it seems you can't?

As long as everything in the quote is in spoiler tags it's okay though, right?

The problem is that you can see the "Quote from: ------" junk at the top, which basically tells you exactly what they're quoting. I mean, I guess you have to think about that to figure it out, and in that case you just mouse-over it anyway. I'm specifically testing this for quoting stuff from the other thread, wondering how safe that is. Obviously stuff in here it doesn't really matter. As for the stuff from the other thread, I don't know whether people really care that much, I'm just throwing it out there.

popsofctown · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2012, 01:44:51 pm »

Quote from: ftl on May 28, 2012, 03:38:28 am

This is the one with even potential roles not announced?

I bet optimal strategy for Mafia involves a fake roleclaim at some point, with some obscure role. Since a counter-claim is pretty unlikely, and nobody will ever find out if you're lying until you die, since they can't count other power roles as they die.

If the town massclaims, they can often reverse engineer the setup and determine whether the true setup has more town power or less town power than is claimed, based on what would be balanced. If the mafia claim a strong power role and so do townies (or dead townies reveal them), then he becomes suspicous.

Axxle · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2012, 04:28:49 pm »

Random voting makes me sad. Doesn't help the town at all.

Axxle · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2012, 05:05:19 pm »

I really hope there isn't a Jester in that game, or any other bastard role for that matter.

popsofctown · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2012, 05:24:05 pm »

I reviewed the setup for Mafia III, so none of the roles are any more of a bastard than I am.

Grujah · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2012, 10:05:53 pm »

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Just testing to see if it's possible to put quotes within spoiler tags. Unfortunately it seems you can't?

As long as everything in the quote is in spoiler tags it's okay though, right?

The problem is that you can see the "Quote from: ------" junk at the top, which basically tells you exactly what they're quoting. I mean, I guess you have to think about that to figure it out, and in that case you just mouse-over it anyway. I'm specifically testing this for quoting stuff from the other thread, wondering how safe that is. Obviously stuff in here it doesn't really matter. As for the stuff from the other thread, I don't know whether people really care that much, I'm just throwing it out there.

You can just delete that part, like so.

Ozle · « **Reply #11 on:** June 01, 2012, 08:18:47 am »

TINAS clearly mafia

Axxle · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2012, 05:53:05 pm »

We're finally getting and being able to use metagame information, which is fun.

Axxle · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:40:00 pm »

"The analysis is pretty useless, actually. Anyone who plays Mafia one way every time and Town another way every time is a terrible mafia player, and we can't deduce all too much from looking at Robz past roleclaims"

Actually you'd be an extremely powerful townie, but terrible scum.

ftl · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:55:45 pm »

Presumably, everyone *tries* to play Mafia similarly every time? In the case of town, you're trying to play however you think is best to ferret out the scum, whereas if you're scum, you're trying to play however you played when you were town, so as not to arouse suspicion.

However, at this stage, people might just change playing styles radically just based on the fact that when you're new to a game, strategy can change very very quickly as you learn. Like, in my first game, I ended up being last to vote basically always, and I'd try to change that for my next game, whether I'm town or mafia. So consistency or inconsistency is a much more reliable tell for experienced players with more than one game under their belt...

Axxle · « **Reply #15 on:** June 02, 2012, 03:10:04 pm »

I think I'd vote O to death on Day 2. If he's really a jester mafia should NK him immediately to prevent the chance of him winning so if he's not dead by Day 2 he's mafia.

Axxle · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2012, 03:36:16 am »

Does anyone else want Pineapple right about now?

Axxle · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2012, 08:42:20 pm »

I am going to ban all self lynchers from my games. It's rediculous.

O should die, too obvious a mafia.

Am I the only one following this?

Insomniac · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2012, 08:47:43 pm »

I'm following the game as well as moderating it but obviously I cannot speculate. Except about pineapple that stuffs delicious

ftl · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:24:40 pm »

Nah, I'm following it too, but I don't trust my reads on anyone. O seems mafia. Robz maybe.

ftl · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2012, 04:18:37 am »

BTW, what's everyone's feeling about the whole "no lynch day 1" thing? Unbiased people not in any ongoing game, or ones past day 1.

IMO, Since nobody can possibly be guaranteed to be town on day 1, with no power roles investigated and nothing real to go on, for a townie, a 2/8 chance of lynching a mafia (in a 9-player game) is better than a chance of giving Mafia a free night (no lynch).

I suppose it depends on what power roles are around, but only cop can really change that? And town never know that they have one?

Robz for mafia for arguing against this. One of the people who was about to be lynched is the other mafia. :-p

Grujah · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2012, 05:43:44 am »

is J the guy that must die to win (Jester?) If yes, he is doing a good job

theory · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2012, 05:02:19 pm »

Is anyone else totally unable to keep track of all these various Mafia games now?

Thisisnotasmile · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2012, 05:03:56 pm »

I've stopped trying to keep up until a game comes along that sounds interesting enough to actually take part in

ftl · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2012, 06:15:51 pm »

Quote from: theory on June 04, 2012, 05:02:19 pm

Is anyone else totally unable to keep track of all these various Mafia games now?

Yeah, of course not. I'm not Robz!

I skip basically everything with people seriously analyzing each other's posts and try to get a tl;dr if there is one. I skim games occasionally to find interesting strategy tidbits, like the no lynch day 1 discussion. (I'm still curious as to what unbiased and experienced people have to say about that!

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I'm also following because I'm curious as to whether Town can do better than chance at lynching, except by information from power roles; my small amount of experience in IRL mafia led me to believe the answer is no, but apparently since Forum Mafia is a thing, the answer must be yes, or else people would tire of this pretty quickly; so I'm curious and am watching.

(So far, the only Mafia that I've seen lynched on this forum, have been due to power roles finding them out, so it's not looking good...)
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