Topic: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall (Read 31333 times)

eHalcyon · « **Reply #200 on:** June 15, 2012, 03:34:41 pm »

Way cool. Have a safe trip!

Tables · « **Reply #201 on:** June 16, 2012, 01:01:55 pm »

Mission 2.3 proposed by: WrathOfGlod:
Team Proposed: WrathOfGlod, Thisisnotasmile, Robz888
Voting YES: Thisisnotasmile, Galzria, Robz888
Voting NO: WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, eHalcyon
Result: Yes - 3, No - 3
Proposal Fails

Morgrim7: Propose the next mission

eHalcyon · « **Reply #202 on:** June 16, 2012, 01:48:45 pm »

Interesting...
## I think Morgrim said he PM'd you his proposal since he's on a flight right now.

WrathOfGlod · « **Reply #203 on:** June 16, 2012, 02:52:13 pm »

##I voted yes

WrathOfGlod · « **Reply #204 on:** June 16, 2012, 02:53:15 pm »

Sorry guys I thought I had sent my vote when I proposed the team, but I forgot

eHalcyon · « **Reply #205 on:** June 16, 2012, 03:20:39 pm »

Quote from: WrathOfGlod on June 16, 2012, 02:53:15 pm

Sorry guys I thought I had sent my vote when I proposed the team, but I forgot

Oh. Well, that's less interesting then.

Morgrim7 · « **Reply #206 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:37:52 pm »

And I am back. Landed safe...we're good!!! #I propose WoG, Galzria, and Myself#. Oh, and, Approve, obviously.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #207 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:41:20 pm »

I don't know how I feel about this team... No choice but to approve, but I kind of hope that Galzria vetos it afterwards.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #208 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:43:35 pm »

To be clear -- I'd like it better if TINAS was on it or if I was on it. I don't have a good read on anyone else at this point.

Galzria · « **Reply #209 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:56:05 pm »

I feel decent about this team, and would rather TINAS not have last choice, so will not be vetoing it.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #210 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:09:46 pm »

Fair enough. Fingers crossed then.

Tables · « **Reply #211 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:22:06 pm »

Mission 2.4 proposed by: Morgrim7:
Team Proposed: WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, Galzria
Voting YES: WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, Thisisnotasmile, Galzria, eHalcyon
Voting NO: Robz888
Result: Yes - 5, No - 1
Proposal passes

WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, Galzria, if any of you are spies, please send your mission decision. If you are Resistance, you automatically choose to pass

eHalcyon · « **Reply #212 on:** June 18, 2012, 08:30:54 pm »

Robz voted no. Huh.

Robz888 · « **Reply #213 on:** June 18, 2012, 09:12:03 pm »

I would have voted for the proposal, but I was away this weekend, and simply did not vote at all. I thought I had voted earlier. Sorry for the confusion.

Tables · « **Reply #214 on:** June 20, 2012, 07:16:07 pm »

Apologies for the delay. Not been online.

Mission 2 Results
Co-operating: 3
Sabotage: 0
Mission succeeds. Score is now Resistance - 2, Spies - 0

Leadership passes to Thisisnotasmile, who draws the plot card Strong Leader

TINAS: You have 5 days to distribute Strong Leader, and 6 to make your propsal. Mission 3 requires 4 people.

Galzria · « **Reply #215 on:** June 20, 2012, 07:17:55 pm »

Yawn. No surprises here. Moving on. TINAS?

eHalcyon · « **Reply #216 on:** June 20, 2012, 07:48:00 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on June 20, 2012, 07:17:55 pm

Yawn. No surprises here. Moving on. TINAS?

Really? I find it surprising. I had a resistance read on TINAS and was neutral on Robz. In all likelihood, a spy should have been on that mission. Scenarios:

1. Both spies were on board, neither was willing to risk a double sabotage.
2. One spy was on board, but is playing a very risky long con.
3. No spies on board, TINAS and Robz are both spies. Or from your perspectives, 2/3 spies are among TINAS, Robz and myself.

Seems fishy to me.

Galzria · « **Reply #217 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:00:12 pm »

Or, fourth option, I was right to begin with about TINAS.

You also knew I had early suspicion of Robz. That why he was with you and your spy partner in mission vote 2.1. He took 2.2, so of course he was there, and when he proposed TINAS go as well, you pushed WoG to keep the same team in the desperate hope that it passed.

Having failed twice, you tried to convince me to veto a team (Morgrim's 2.4) that you knew had no spies on it, AND I would've burned my NC vote.

You've been backhand defending TINAS all game, never saying you trust him directly, but that you distrust me more. When asked for the arguments between him and I, I responded, he went quiet. From that you gathered "trust" in him, while still remaining "uncomfortable" with my being on a team.

Twice now WoG and I have gone out. Once with Morgrim. Both times we were successful. Team, don't let the spy's mislead you at this point. We're very very close to ending this here.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #218 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:05:53 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on June 20, 2012, 08:00:12 pm

Or, fourth option, I was right to begin with about TINAS.

You also knew I had early suspicion of Robz. That why he was with you and your spy partner in mission vote 2.1. He took 2.2, so of course he was there, and when he proposed TINAS go as well, you pushed WoG to keep the same team in the desperate hope that it passed.

Having failed twice, you tried to convince me to veto a team (Morgrim's 2.4) that you knew had no spies on it, AND I would've burned my NC vote.

You've been backhand defending TINAS all game, never saying you trust him directly, but that you distrust me more. When asked for the arguments between him and I, I responded, he went quiet. From that you gathered "trust" in him, while still remaining "uncomfortable" with my being on a team.

Twice now WoG and I have gone out. Once with Morgrim. Both times we were successful. Team, don't let the spy's mislead you at this point. We're very very close to ending this here.

Are you kidding me? I have no defended TINAS, though I have explicitly stated that I have a positive read on him. How is that backhanded?

And you're very much mistaken here. You and WoG have not gone out twice. The first mission was you and ME. Not only that -- you were the one who proposed it. Seems like that's something you should remember.

Galzria · « **Reply #219 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:23:25 pm »

Ah, really? Could have sworn I took WoG. I meant to. Ugh. Alright, I apologize. Too many forum games. Still, after the results of last mission (which I would have been more surprised to see fall) and your constant pushing of TINAS, whom I have a very strong Spy read on, AND your attempt to get me to burn my NC, I still believe you most likely spy #2.

Although my case isn't AS strong, it's still more than conceivable that you were a spy trying to gain trust by letting M1 pass than any of us 3 were spys playing some long game by passing Mission 2. Hell, you said it yourself: Spy's vote pass on Mission 1.

The fact that you were there does nothing to help your defense.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #220 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:36:20 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on June 20, 2012, 08:23:25 pm

Ah, really? Could have sworn I took WoG. I meant to. Ugh. Alright, I apologize. Too many forum games. Still, after the results of last mission (which I would have been more surprised to see fall) and your constant pushing of TINAS, whom I have a very strong Spy read on, AND your attempt to get me to burn my NC, I still believe you most likely spy #2.

Although my case isn't AS strong, it's still more than conceivable that you were a spy trying to gain trust by letting M1 pass than any of us 3 were spys playing some long game by passing Mission 2. Hell, you said it yourself: Spy's vote pass on Mission 1.

The fact that you were there does nothing to help your defense.

When did I say that spies vote to pass on mission 1? Pretty sure that was either WoG or TINAS.

Long con isn't impossible. What happens now? Probably the best play is to take the 3 players from mission 2 and put them on mission 3 with one of Robz, TINAS or me. Let's call the new addition "X". What if mission 3 fails? Do you automatically suspect X? Because that would be perfect for the real spy, if he is part of the mission 2 team. Far more suspicion would be on X than on the original 3.

Passing Mission 2 hides information from the Resistance. If the spy sabotages mission 2, there is information to narrow down who he is. If he passes it -- high risk, high reward.

Thisisnotasmile · « **Reply #221 on:** June 21, 2012, 08:46:35 am »

## Strong Leader goes to Morgrim7 for proposng a successful mission and being the team leader before myself.

## I propose for mission 3.1: WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, Galzria, Thisisnotasmile. Mission one means nothing as far as I'm concerned, however it's a very risky move for a spy to bluff mission 2. As such, I believe mission 2 contained three ROs, OR it contained 1 RO and two spies, and in that case Morgrim7 is not one of the spies as he would not propose a mission with 2 spies if he is one of them. Note that this puts Morgrim7 in the clear as far as I am concerend no matter what. I have added myself to the mission because I know I am a RO, and if I put someone else on the team we are guaranteed to have at least one spy on the mission.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #222 on:** June 21, 2012, 12:04:30 pm »

Quote from: Thisisnotasmile on June 21, 2012, 08:46:35 am

## Strong Leader goes to Morgrim7 for proposng a successful mission and being the team leader before myself.

## I propose for mission 3.1: WrathOfGlod, Morgrim7, Galzria, Thisisnotasmile. Mission one means nothing as far as I'm concerned, however it's a very risky move for a spy to bluff mission 2. As such, I believe mission 2 contained three ROs, OR it contained 1 RO and two spies, and in that case Morgrim7 is not one of the spies as he would not propose a mission with 2 spies if he is one of them. Note that this puts Morgrim7 in the clear as far as I am concerend no matter what. I have added myself to the mission because I know I am a RO, and if I put someone else on the team we are guaranteed to have at least one spy on the mission.

I completely agree with this logic and would do the same thing in your position. However, I know for sure that a spy is on this team as I am not part of it. Still, I am tempted to vote yes because I think double spy is a very real possibility. In that case we should move quickly before a spy can subtly indicate something like "I'll sabotage, you pass".

Long con possibility worries me the most, but it's less likely to be happening. I am OK with this team, hoping to see double sabotage come up.

For the record, I think spy Morgrim would be crazy enough to put himself on a team with his partner.

Robz888 · « **Reply #223 on:** June 21, 2012, 12:06:15 pm »

I intend to vote against this team, because there is certainly at least 1 Spy on it.

Galzria · « **Reply #224 on:** June 21, 2012, 12:15:27 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on June 21, 2012, 12:06:15 pm

I intend to vote against this team, because there is certainly at least 1 Spy on it.

Do you SEE how scummy eH has been? There is NO reason to push this through if you're Resistance and not on the team. He knows it's likely I'll decline, meaning I get control, and would propose:

WoG, Robz, Morgrim, and myself

This is a winning team (I believe), which would cause him a game over. By voting yes, he may reveal himself as a spy, but could still push the mission through for a Spy success.

I an voting No. I highly encourage WoG or Morgrim to do the same, preventing eH from being able to force a Spy mission victory.

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