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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #750 on: June 01, 2012, 11:56:53 am »

I was worried it was coming apart in Day 2. Man I was scummy in Day 2. I ended up voting for K, even though it was clear I had singled him out as innocent earlier, and actually had been going after Insomniac.

You know, the Morgrim thing actually posed a huge problem for Galz and me, because there were only 4 Morgrim voters! That narrows it down, I thought. Luckily the whole dialogue shifted suspicion to the people who hadn't voted Morgrim. That was... fortunate.

Oh not fortunate. Quite deliberately orchestrated by Galzria, I should think. One-in, one-out.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #751 on: June 01, 2012, 12:04:40 pm »

R, I stand by my stance that I wanted you to hit J day 2. With all the suspicion already there, you could've pushed it along (and indeed with me and J appearing "chummy", you were uniquely qualified to do so at that time).

I then could've linked back to my post: "Mark my words: Jothenah is town. Kuildeous is Mafia". Instead, you played the hard route of coming to my aid and getting ON the K-train!

Ah well, I can't complain now.

I still want to applaud you all again (and especially town) for making my first game so enjoyable and HARD. I look forward to being Mafia again in the future, but would love a game where I could relax a bit more as a townie with nothing to hide (Don't read anything in that sentence to be relevant to ongoing games. I could be Mafia or Town in them, I'm not saying).
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #752 on: June 01, 2012, 12:06:50 pm »

I deeply, deeply, deeply enjoy being the mafia.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #753 on: June 01, 2012, 12:11:12 pm »

I was worried it was coming apart in Day 2. Man I was scummy in Day 2. I ended up voting for K, even though it was clear I had singled him out as innocent earlier, and actually had been going after Insomniac.

You know, the Morgrim thing actually posed a huge problem for Galz and me, because there were only 4 Morgrim voters! That narrows it down, I thought. Luckily the whole dialogue shifted suspicion to the people who hadn't voted Morgrim. That was... fortunate.

Oh not fortunate. Quite deliberately orchestrated by Galzria, I should think. One-in, one-out.

Well, it was the best shot we had, and early in the game, sounded reasonable. M's self lynch DID hurt us as much as you. I was looking desperately for a way to change that. I'm just glad it stuck. Honestly, you guys are giving me more credit than I deserve. I was more often shocked that anything I said carried weight. I generally wasn't concerned with Robz figuring he could fend for himself, I just tried to steer the conversation away from me, and in as helpful, townie way as I could.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #754 on: June 01, 2012, 12:19:57 pm »

Also, lest I forget, HUGE round of applause to Axxle, who did a great job moderating. He was clear, concise, and timely. Constantly present and keeping us all straight. Very well done sir. +1 when you next post.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #755 on: June 01, 2012, 12:20:18 pm »

The thing that made me feel the best this game is I did rat out a mafia, and when I did I just plowed on him. It didn't work but I stuck to my guns
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #756 on: June 01, 2012, 12:20:29 pm »

Also, lest I forget, HUGE round of applause to Axxle, who did a great job moderating. He was clear, concise, and timely. Constantly present and keeping us all straight. Very well done sir. +1 when you next post.

Agreed
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #757 on: June 01, 2012, 12:23:20 pm »

The thing that made me feel the best this game is I did rat out a mafia, and when I did I just plowed on him. It didn't work but I stuck to my guns

I agree. Had you just WAITED on your day 3 vote of him, it would've made it a lot harder, I think. Still, very good early read.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #758 on: June 01, 2012, 12:27:49 pm »

The thing that made me feel the best this game is I did rat out a mafia, and when I did I just plowed on him. It didn't work but I stuck to my guns

I agree. Had you just WAITED on your day 3 vote of him, it would've made it a lot harder, I think. Still, very good early read.

When I voted for him I knew that since I knew he was mafia he wouldn't be hammered. Which at the time I thought ok great fantastic thatll make town realize that he's mafia. I forgot that it also made me look worse.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #759 on: June 01, 2012, 01:03:23 pm »

Vote Count 3-5

Insomniac (3) - Robz888, Voltgloss, Galzria
Robz888 (1) - Insomniac
Voltgloss (1) - jotheonah

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12pm PDT


Well... as you guys have figured out already Insomniac was a Vanilla Townie and Robz and Galz were the Mafia.  Congrats on a Mafia win!  You deserved it.

Here's the link to the QuickTopic... It's deader then bozzball though.
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/nZDZf7XpyVHSk

In a rush to get to work so can't say much more now.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #760 on: June 01, 2012, 01:10:03 pm »

Thanks again Axxle, great job.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #761 on: June 01, 2012, 01:31:34 pm »

Agreed.  Great job moderating, Axxle.  Thanks again for the fun game.  :)
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #762 on: June 01, 2012, 01:35:45 pm »

Here, here. Quite enjoyable. Though man, I was kinda hoping for a little more action on our QT. I was ready to feel like a celebrity or a reality TV star or something.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #763 on: June 01, 2012, 01:40:10 pm »

Here, here. Quite enjoyable. Though man, I was kinda hoping for a little more action on our QT. I was ready to feel like a celebrity or a reality TV star or something.

With Mafia-I, the action was much much easier to follow, and we had actual information to go off of.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #764 on: June 01, 2012, 01:59:15 pm »

Here, here. Quite enjoyable. Though man, I was kinda hoping for a little more action on our QT. I was ready to feel like a celebrity or a reality TV star or something.

With Mafia-I, the action was much much easier to follow, and we had actual information to go off of.

Btw, serious +1's to anybody who DID read through everything and followed this game. You seriously have a Mafia obsession. (I believe that O did this. Crazy, crazy person).
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #765 on: June 01, 2012, 02:22:50 pm »

Actually if you looked at the number of times viewed it was way too high to be just us, even assuming some of us checked it pretty obsessively. So I'm guessing there are more lurkers than we'd guess, although fewer since theory made the games forum non-publicly viewable.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #766 on: June 01, 2012, 02:25:31 pm »

Actually if you looked at the number of times viewed it was way too high to be just us, even assuming some of us checked it pretty obsessively. So I'm guessing there are more lurkers than we'd guess, although fewer since theory made the games forum non-publicly viewable.

Oh I know. ;) My post was to try and lure them out of hiding for free +1's, and increase conversation about the game from outside observers.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #767 on: June 01, 2012, 02:34:06 pm »

I tried to keep up but failed and skipped from somewhere around page 22 to the end tonight. No offense but man, that was a boring game. Too much waffling and not enough doing stuff.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #768 on: June 01, 2012, 02:44:01 pm »

I'll admit to following the thread (mostly...skimmed some of the super-long posts, especially Galzria's summaries.  And I only ever read things once).

I waffled around on who I thought was mafia...
Day 3 I suspected Robz, because of his bad math defending his Jailkeeper claim (assuming all investigations were non-lynched he had like a 28% chance of a counter-claim...additionally I supposed Insomniac was the un-scouted person).  Also I thought Insomniac's vote on Robz was bad Mafia play.  (why limit it to 50/50 as mafia when you could have 60-40 chance of non-mafia chosen).  But then I also thought Insomniac was guilty because you guys were so convincing.  Eventually, before the votes went down I decided that it "had to be" RobZ and Volt because of Volt's day 2 analysis which concluded the most likely pairing as I-K.  (seriously, 2 non-Morgrim voters as Mafia is MOST LIKELY???)
I never suspected Galz.

Anyways, that's what I thought reading through Day 3 (and I was definitely curious to find out who was really guilty)

I'm pretty much a lurker everywhere I go, so it wasn't much different to follow this.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #769 on: June 01, 2012, 02:48:43 pm »

Fine, fine, I'll reveal my role, I'm one of the Town Lurkers!

I definitely didn't read most of the big walls-of-text, and thus didn't really have strong opinions on who was who. I skimmed.

BTW, I'd also like to comment that out-of-game comments about your role are really, really damaging to the game. I was leaning towards Insomniac mafia until he made his out-of-game comment in the other thread about his role, which pretty much convinced me he was town. So don't do that, people.

This game reminded me much more of IRL mafia games - lots of finger-pointing, no real information, votes end up being no better than random chance.
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #770 on: June 01, 2012, 06:35:13 pm »

Robz, were you actually drunk or were you trying to make yourself look less threatening?  ;)
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #771 on: June 01, 2012, 06:53:59 pm »

Robz, were you actually drunk or were you trying to make yourself look less threatening?  ;)

Ha! I was at the bar and I was drinking... but no, I was not in bad shape at all, really.  8)
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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #772 on: June 01, 2012, 06:56:45 pm »

We were just busy sending vague obtuse tells to each other. I DID use his drinking as a slight cover though.  8) But even I didn't think he was 'hammered'.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #773 on: June 01, 2012, 07:03:53 pm »

And the exact reads, if you are curious:

Robz: I am at the bar right now but am following very closely.

This was: Galzria, if you are there, switch to V and I will too.

Galzria: Boy, you ARE drunk! I meant you and I can't be a pair because we are not hammering, yet could

This was: I hear you, but don't risk it! Don't switch to V!

I then followed up with "My phone is dying" (not true at all at the time), but I wanted him to know I wasn't going to be there so he wouldn't switch.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia II: Of Goons and Woodcutters (Day 3)
« Reply #774 on: June 01, 2012, 07:06:42 pm »

And the exact reads, if you are curious:

Robz: I am at the bar right now but am following very closely.

This was: Galzria, if you are there, switch to V and I will too.

Galzria: Boy, you ARE drunk! I meant you and I can't be a pair because we are not hammering, yet could

This was: I hear you, but don't risk it! Don't switch to V!

I then followed up with "My phone is dying" (not true at all at the time), but I wanted him to know I wasn't going to be there so he wouldn't switch.
Oh wow, I thought it was:

Galzria: Boy, you ARE drunk! I meant you and I can't be a pair because we are not hammering, yet could
which meant, "Switch already so I can follow you and win this thing!"
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