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[Insomniac]

One last thought before I go to bed. Another reason for mafia to roleclaim and take the 66% risk.

IF there is a counterclaim jailkeeper or doctor then if the counterclaim is lynched mafia win.

IF the counterclaim isn't lynched the mafia kill the role in the night for the guaranteed kill. Because neither the jailkeeper nor the doctor can save themselves. So if we lynch robz today had their been a counterclaim that person would go under the bus during the night 3. Thus ensuring the 2-1 Day 4

[Galzria]

So Galzria is that post (pairings) updated to reflect all that's transpired since or is it just as of when you started the posts?

Because maybe I'm completely wrong but your the only one I have a town read on other than me

It does reflect my general feelings overall to date. I told Jotheonah a few posts back (and indicated to you earlier) that I wasn't going to just post it and then vote, and that holds true. I want enough time for everybody to react and add their thoughts and opinions. While I don't think there is a whole lot left to be said (and certainly I've said MORE than my share  ), I am more than willing to listen. I just don't really see much changing my mind at this point.

Certainly you don't want to be lynched, and I would expect you to voice/act on that. Jotheonah's first response earlier was about what I expect from him - asking how sure I am between himself and Volt. I'm not sure what I'll hear from Volt and Robz. But I think it's only fair to let everybody have a chance to speak/voice their opinions before I make another move.

[Robz888]

Here are all possible remaining pairs:

I-R
I-V
I-J
I-G
J-V
J-R
J-G
R-V
R-G
G-V

We will eliminate R-I, R-J, and V-J do to feuding between the parties. That leaves:

I-V
I-J
I-G
J-G
R-V
R-G
G-V

We will eliminate all the additional pairings that should have produced a hammer on Robz888 or Insomniac. Since we voted for each other, G-J and G-V should have resulted in the end of the game. That leaves:

I-V
I-J
I-G
R-V
R-G

We will eliminate all the additional pairings that should have produced a hammer on Voltgloss. Since Jotheonah voted for Voltgloss, G-R and G-I should have produced the end of the game. That leaves:

I-V
I-J
R-V

The interesting thing is what this tells individual people. For instance, if Insomniac is innocent, he should think that J also must be innocent. If Voltgloss is innocent, he has little choice but to conclude that I am also innocent. Galzria, incidentally, qualifies as guilty in none of the final pairs.

I know that some have disqualified I-V as a possible pair. I would disqualify it only because I don't think Voltgloss is mafia, which leaves only the pair I originally proposed this round: Insomniac and Jotheonah. I am still in favor of lynching Insomniac. Aside from being the more suspicious of the two, he technically appears in more of these pairs than J.

So why have J and Insomniac split their votes? Perhaps they know they lost the argument this round, and when Insomniac dies and does come up mafia, J wants to be on record as having distanced himself.

These are just my thoughts at this point. The fact that there is no hammer yet really does support my opinion that the mafia are Insomniac and J (although I admit a Volt-me pairing or an Insomniac-Volt pairing would also produce this result.)

[Insomniac]

I havent ruled out r-J robs why did you ignore this pair

[Insomniac]

Nevermind I see why. You guys barely feuded. WE feuded you guys briefly threw pillows at each other to look innocent

[Robz888]

Nevermind I see why. You guys barely feuded. WE feuded you guys briefly threw pillows at each other to look innocent

Yes, compared to Insomniac and myself, J and me basically braided each others' hair and talked about who we had crushes on. Still, I think it's worth ruling out. J came after me strong at the start of Day 2, has not ratified my Doctor claim, and I have explicitly said that he is the second mafia. (Also, I KNOW that I can rule it out, because I am not the mafia. J has ruled it out, I'm sure, for similar reasons. That's true from my perspective for the R-V pairing too, though.)

[Axxle]

Vote Count 3-4

Insomniac (1) - Robz888
Robz888 (1) - Insomniac
Voltgloss (1) - jotheonah
Not Voting (2) - Voltgloss, Galzria

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12pm PDT

[Voltgloss]

The action that happens while I'm asleep. 

Well, I have to thank jotheonah, because he removed the last shred of doubt that was holding me back.  There were two reasons I haven't voted for Insomniac yet:  (1) because I was waiting for Galzria to finish his masterwork, and (2) my fear that the mafia could be R-G.  It wasn't a huge fear, but a significant enough fear that I wanted to analyze that pairing carefully in comparison to I-J.

But now I don't have to do that, as R-G has been cleared.  They could have hammered me to a win;  they did not.

Thanks, jotheonah.

VOTE:  INSOMNIAC

[Galzria]

Don't have a lot of time now to talk, but will this evening:

You all will, I hope, forgive me, but I've got to take it while it's there:

VOTE: INSOMNIAC

And... That makes 3.

[jotheonah]

ALright, I'm at least going to give Galzria a chance to end this game with a win. Even though he's said he won't take it.

I desperately hope you guys are right and insomniac is mafia, but like Rob said, our additional information about our own innocence tells us each something, and it tells me that R-V is the overwhelmingly likely pair.

So Unvote. Vote: Robz888

Galzria, if you vote for either party now you end either the day or the game. So do us the favor of waiting at least 24 hours. I want to look through everything once more and try to find a silver bullet to convince you of my case.

Can you show me exactly where I've desperately vied for your friendship? Since that (completely unintentional) act could very well be what loses town the game?

[jotheonah]

Galzria, you literally posted that while my stupid Internet was crashed. Ah, the Gods of fate don't like us (or do?)

[Voltgloss]

You all will, I hope, forgive me, but I've got to take it while it's there:

I really hope this is just an unfortunately worded Townie comment and not a "finally, we win" Mafia comment.  The fact that Galzria said he'd wait around 24 hours to vote, but didn't, has me concerned.  But who could be his Mafia partner? 

Well, we'll know soon enough.  I said it before and I'll repeat it:  if Galzria is Mafia and just clinched a win, he's played a masterful game and deserves said win.

[Voltgloss]

I'm getting paranoid.  I'm rereading Galz and Robz's exchange late last night and now my brain is translating them as:

Galz:  "Vote for V and I'll vote for him too and we win!"
Robz:  /drinking
Galz:  "Dammit!"

[Galzria]

Decent thought V, and I'll admit to being Mafia having cast the third vote. But what you suggest above absolutely is not the case. I never had aims to vote for you, under any circumstances.

[Insomniac]

Congrats robz and partner on your win

[Insomniac]

I apparently mean r and g. Why did you guys not hammer V?

[jotheonah]

So apparently I wasted Day 3 trying to convince the wrong guy. G, you played a masterful game. I should have looked closer at that one damning piece of evidence re: your continued nighttime survival.

[Insomniac]

Also while I'm thinking about it why did you guys kill bozzball was I correct about potential for coming back and probably an easy hammer on me?

[Galzria]

From my standpoint: We were both out. Him at a bar, me at dinner with the team. V reads my comment to him as "Vote and I'll Vote", but it was exactly the opposite, and I think he picked up on it. It was "DON'T Vote!". I knew J was active, and couldn't be sure he wouldn't drop an unvote before we could hammer, ruining everything. ESPECIALLY when I still felt sure we would get V's vote within the next day.

[Galzria]

Actually, Robz and I rarely lied in this game. Our posted thoughts on Tables and Bozzball were dead on. Re: bozzball, he had the least likely chance of an 11th hour power-save.

And day 2, when Robz said he thought K would die during night 1 (fitting into his K is town argument), it's because he wanted to kill K first night, and I overrode with my treasons to snag Tables - Which were as I stated openly day 2: He would've had too much time to cleanly evaluate day 1's events. Plus, we were pretty sure K, T, or V had a role, he investigated V.

[Voltgloss]

Seriously though, very well played the both of you.  I expect you were trying to stifle giggles all the way through Day 2 that we bought the whole "1 Mafia didn't vote for Morgrim" thing. 

J, I have a crow to share with you.  Would you prefer the head, or the feet?

So... does this mean that everything Robz had to teach us newbies on Day 1 about proper Mafia play was a passel of lies? 

[Voltgloss]

Actually, Robz and I rarely lied in this game.

This.  This was key. 

[Galzria]

To mention strategy quickly: We never had one, never talked about it. We both recognized we would be more genuine if we didn't know what our partner would do, so our reactions could be pure and as close to truthful as we could get.

[Voltgloss]

And I guess we only had one power role after all, that you guys luckily managed to kill Night 1?

[Galzria]

And to be fair, while things didn't go well for town, you guys played a great game. Day 3 was TOUGH, and after my charge on K, I didn't know if we could pull it off. You guys made it as difficult as you could I believe. So I applaud you.