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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #175 on: May 15, 2012, 05:08:19 am »

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there are bad guys out there too who have just as much access to that information.

The bad guys pretty much have strictly more information than the good guys at this point; anything cryptic or unclear is to their benefit, not ours. And if being cryptic and confusing gets you killed, it's strictly against your team.

I suppose I could be wrong on that? We'll see post-game, I suppose.

So far, all you've done is made yourself look suspicious; you don't seem to care that you're letting down your team by doing that. Getting yourself killed hurts your team, especially if you're a townie and aren't deliberately taking suspicion for a partner. 

Just letting you know, so you can help yourself, in this game and in future games; you've got only yourself to blame when you get lynched.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #176 on: May 15, 2012, 09:39:06 am »

Not really. It started with a random joking suspicion. Which is fine. That's how mafia games start. I jokingly brushed aside that suspicion which is what always comes next, but the fact that I didn't explicitly state something which would be pointless to state as it adds no information to the game whatsoever somehow puts a real suspicion on me. Whatever someone's got to be lynched. I accept that which is why I'm fine for that person to be me. I don't think it's the best idea in the world to lynch me, because I'm not mafia and it would be better to lynch mafia, but it's got to be someone.

To be honest, at this point I've pretty much said everything I have to say and I've definitely said everything I'm WILLING to say. I'm just gonna stay quiet(ish) for a while and let you guys make up your mind. It's all out in the open for you.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #177 on: May 15, 2012, 09:53:33 am »

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.  *sharpens pitchfork*
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #178 on: May 15, 2012, 12:02:58 pm »

Okay, I am going to go ahead and register an official VOTE: THISISNOTASMILE. I believe that is the 5th vote, the kill vote, for TINAS. I feel comfortable doing so, because I can't really see myself ever voting for someone else this round.

To be frank, I'm not at all sure that TINAS is mafia, but... the repercussions of killing him if he is a townie seem less severe than for killing other people who may be townies. His self-professed erratic play-style could be good strategy in certain circumstances, but we pretty much have to hold that against him here. Also, I do think there is at least some chance he is mafia. I think he may have planned to play erratically regardless, and was quickly surprised and annoyed that this made him immediately suspicious. At no point has he really deflected my suspicions.

Oh, and a word on 'being suspicious.' The mafia want to leave in suspicious and active players. They want known or suspected innocents killed. If, for instance, the cop ever reveals himself and says, "X is not mafia," X will likely die in the night. The mafia need to keep uncertainty in the game. There are other considerations--sometimes they will go against this to kill someone when they know it will make us suspect someone else, specifically, as mafia--but this is a big one.

Therefore, I assume theory will survive the night.

I say all this so that doctors/jailkeepers/cops can plan accordingly.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #179 on: May 15, 2012, 12:05:15 pm »

(flavor posts will use the most recent poster.)
Robz got lost in his gardeny Kingdom as he often does, and found himself between two of his Estates, each with a Garden out front.  Just as he was about to despair, he spied a Haggler in the ally between the Hedges.
"Hello, my subject, I'd like to buy a Cellar; have it built under one of my Estates here."
"My liege, if I sell you a Cellar, I'm going to have to give you a Copper too, you understand?"
Robz cracked a smile.  "Yes.  That's the idea."

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(4) Thisisnotasmile - theory, Ozle, Robz888, ftl
(1) ftl - O
(1) theory - Davio
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #180 on: May 15, 2012, 12:10:05 pm »

From this post, everyone has three strikes on editting posts accidentally, possibly with an extra strike for subsequent days.
If you use all your strikes, I'll have to kill you.

I don't like to be harsh, but I don't think it's that hard. 
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #181 on: May 15, 2012, 12:13:16 pm »


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(4) Thisisnotasmile - theory, Ozle, ftl, Robz888
(2) goober - Axxle, ftl
(1) ftl - O

You got Ftl voting twice there...
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #182 on: May 15, 2012, 12:15:32 pm »

Also, Davio has voted for Theory
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #183 on: May 15, 2012, 12:22:35 pm »

Never modding again.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #184 on: May 15, 2012, 12:27:35 pm »

I thought the goober people unvoted goober? Ah well. My pockets are too stuffed with copper to even count. That Haggler made off with my finest Diadem...
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #185 on: May 15, 2012, 12:29:21 pm »

[META] Would switching to "All" or "Print" view make this easier on you, pops? 
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« Reply #186 on: May 15, 2012, 12:32:50 pm »

I thought the goober people unvoted goober? Ah well. My pockets are too stuffed with copper to even count. That Haggler made off with my finest Diadem...

I think only TINAS took his vote back from Goober (which he says was made originally to try to save himself from being lynched, but then changed when he said he thought Goober was innocent. Not sure if theres anything in that, dont think so)
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #187 on: May 15, 2012, 12:33:58 pm »

Ahh no, i see Axxle too his back as well now! Darn no edit rule!
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #188 on: May 15, 2012, 12:59:06 pm »

A somewhat unrelated question: Which timezones are you all in? I'm on Central European Time, which is UTC+2 with DST (GMT+1).
If someone doesn't post for a couple of hours, it may well be because he's asleep!  :o

When I wake up, there are always like two new pages! :D

BTW: Thisisnotasmile, if you're NOT mafia, you're probably number #1 on their hit list with your "I've played Mafia a gazillion times and know all the ins and outs" attitude. That being said, if you do survive this lynching round AND the night round, you're definitely Mafia. :P
1) PDT (UTC -7)
2) Saying that TINAS is definitely Mafia if he survives almost certainly guarantees that he will be nowhere near the top of the Mafia hitlist, since we'll just lynch him tomorrow.

I think we'll probably lynch TINAS today.  I'm becoming ever more certain he's town though. 
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2012, 01:15:48 pm »

A somewhat unrelated question: Which timezones are you all in? I'm on Central European Time, which is UTC+2 with DST (GMT+1).
If someone doesn't post for a couple of hours, it may well be because he's asleep!  :o

When I wake up, there are always like two new pages! :D

BTW: Thisisnotasmile, if you're NOT mafia, you're probably number #1 on their hit list with your "I've played Mafia a gazillion times and know all the ins and outs" attitude. That being said, if you do survive this lynching round AND the night round, you're definitely Mafia. :P
1) PDT (UTC -7)
2) Saying that TINAS is definitely Mafia if he survives almost certainly guarantees that he will be nowhere near the top of the Mafia hitlist, since we'll just lynch him tomorrow.

I think we'll probably lynch TINAS today.  I'm becoming ever more certain he's town though.

I didn't say he is definitely mafia if he survives. I said he is likely to survive because he is so suspicious.
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« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2012, 01:17:36 pm »

Looking forward to being lynched.

(With regards to edits, I only do it to fix typos, never actual content. I feel awkward about leaving typos around but will try to stop this if it really matters (not that it matter for me this game anyway))
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« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2012, 01:23:12 pm »

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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2012, 01:50:11 pm »

At this point I'm looking forward to anyone being lynched, just because I'm anxious to get on with the next round or to be killed myself during the night. :(

If active and confusing players are good for the Mafia to leave around, I guess it doesn't bode well for the straightforward Townies.  :-[
Maybe I need to implicate myself more: I like eating my wife's lasagne.  :P ;D
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2012, 01:55:01 pm »

At this point I'm looking forward to anyone being lynched, just because I'm anxious to get on with the next round or to be killed myself during the night. :(

If active and confusing players are good for the Mafia to leave around, I guess it doesn't bode well for the straightforward Townies.  :-[
Maybe I need to implicate myself more: I like eating my wife's lasagne.  :P ;D

I have a good guess about who is going to die in the night, but I look forward to being totally wrong. Anyway, I invite the people who haven't voted yet to consider doing so. It's understandable to want to drag this out--there's no particular reason to hurry--but unless anyone wants to toss out new suspects or raise discussion points, don't know where we can go from here.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2012, 01:55:48 pm »

Maybe I need to implicate myself more: I like eating my wife's lasagne.  :P ;D
Nudge-nudge, wink-wink?
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2012, 01:59:33 pm »

A somewhat unrelated question: Which timezones are you all in? I'm on Central European Time, which is UTC+2 with DST (GMT+1).
If someone doesn't post for a couple of hours, it may well be because he's asleep!  :o

When I wake up, there are always like two new pages! :D

BTW: Thisisnotasmile, if you're NOT mafia, you're probably number #1 on their hit list with your "I've played Mafia a gazillion times and know all the ins and outs" attitude. That being said, if you do survive this lynching round AND the night round, you're definitely Mafia. :P
1) PDT (UTC -7)
2) Saying that TINAS is definitely Mafia if he survives almost certainly guarantees that he will be nowhere near the top of the Mafia hitlist, since we'll just lynch him tomorrow.

I think we'll probably lynch TINAS today.  I'm becoming ever more certain he's town though.

I didn't say he is definitely mafia if he survives. I said he is likely to survive because he is so suspicious.

I wasn't referring to you, I quoted Davio.  Why so defensive?
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #196 on: May 15, 2012, 02:03:21 pm »

My mistake. I was looking at this thread on my phone.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #197 on: May 15, 2012, 02:44:29 pm »

So the only votes outstanding at the moment are TINAS, goober, and Axxle.
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Re: Mafia I: Murder in the Gardens, Day 1 underway.
« Reply #198 on: May 15, 2012, 02:46:33 pm »

I'm going to vote for TINAS at the end of the day if nothing of note happens before then, too keep things moving. Just fair warning.
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« Reply #199 on: May 15, 2012, 02:47:20 pm »

I'm going to vote for TINAS at the end of the day if nothing of note happens before then, too keep things moving. Just fair warning.
*to keep things moving

End of the day is 6ish hours from now.
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