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Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« on: October 26, 2024, 02:22:55 pm »
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Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
Now, I know we all appreciate originality over here, but forget all that! Let’s just parrot stuff Donald X. has done and call it our own!
Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to design a card or landscape that only uses sentences found on official card-shaped things. For the purpose of this contest, sentences are broken up by periods and line breaks.
Any number of non-supply cards, artifacts, heirlooms, split piles, etc. are allowed, but they must follow the rules about parroting existing sentences.
Cards and landscape from Rising Sun and Plunder that fit the rules on release:
Pilgrim
Practice
Crucible
Longship

My judging criteria:
Keep it simple
Keep it focused
Keep it balanced
Keep it interactive
Keep it fun!

Happy designing.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2024, 04:06:16 pm »
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How's this for copying?

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2024, 12:10:07 am »
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How's this for copying?

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Fun idea, but it seems like a weak card. I think it could have the benefit of a medium strength $4 Village variant, such as Town, and still not be strong.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2024, 12:51:47 am »
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Split Pile: Bounty / Vigilante

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Bounty — ($4)(Treasure)

$2
You may trash this.
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When you trash this, gain an Attack card.
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Vigilante — ($5)(Action - Attack)

If there are any cards in the trash costing
from $3 to $6, gain one of them.

Return this to its pile. If you did, +2 Cards,
+$2, and each other player discards down
to 3 cards in hand.
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Sources for non-vanilla bonus text:
Engineer & Squire
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Sources for non-vanilla bonus text:
Rogue, Wish, & Mercenary

Here is a split pile made of a Bounty and someone who wants the bounty. When you put out the Bounty, you might lose it (trash it)—but if you do lose it, you might gain the temporary assistance of some hired help. Vigilante (whom I would have really liked to call ‘Bounty Hunter’ and almost called ‘Bounty Chaser’) will hunt down someone for you (from the trash), and he can also rough up some people for you, but he’s not sticking around. However, play your cards right and you can use Bounty to gain Vigilante and vice versa in perpetuity.

EDIT: Original entry was a bit OP, so removed Bounty’s +Buy & made Vigilante terminal. I think this is now balanced. You effectively spend $4 for a card that spends half its time as a Silver and half its time as a $5-cost. Also, there is a chance you don’t get to trash Bounty the first time you play it (if the Vigilantes are not yet uncovered).
 
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2024, 03:28:02 am »
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This is too strong. It is basically a card that switches between two cards, like Vampire/Bat. The first is a non-terminal Woodcutter and the second is Lab plus Militia.

Obvious nerfs are increasing the entry price to $5 and/or making the Attack non-terminal.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2024, 06:03:56 am »
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Usurper
Night - $6
You may play an Action card from your hand three times
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This is gained to your hand (instead of your discard pile)


Edit: No longer my entry
« Last Edit: November 02, 2024, 06:40:47 pm by NoMoreFun »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2024, 07:25:47 am »
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This is too strong. It is basically a card that switches between two cards, like Vampire/Bat. The first is a non-terminal Woodcutter and the second is Lab plus Militia.

Obvious nerfs are increasing the entry price to $5 and/or making the Attack non-terminal.

I take your point, this is likely too strong. I wanted to make it worthwhile even in kingdoms that have a trash-gainer like Rogue or Treasurer which could break this exchange-by-another-name loop, but those are just edge cases.

I really want to keep Bounty at $4, because otherwise I worry players will never get through the top half of the pile (same reason why Donald X made Gladiators to trash Supply Gladiators). But at the same time, for $4 you are getting a card that can turn itself into a $6, so maybe its price should be raised.

Either way, I should nerf Vigilante by making it terminal. Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2024, 05:56:56 pm »
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Holy Grail (Action - Omen - Fate, 6D)
+1 Sun
+1 Card
+1 Action
Receive one of the set-aside Boons (leaving it there).
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Setup: Set aside the top 3 Boons face up.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2024, 09:16:40 pm »
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Old Version:

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2024, 12:04:47 am »
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Which card did your phrase “When you gain this, you may trash a Treasure from your hand” come from? I can’t seem to find it.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2024, 09:26:42 am »
+3

:)                                                                                 :)
:)                                                                                 :)
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Tunnel Map • $4 • Action  - Reaction
Look at the top 4 cards of your deck.
Put 2 into your hand and discard the rest.
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When you discard this other than during Clean-up,
you may reveal it to gain a Gold.
:)
Seams like a Reaction recombination would be fairly easy, albeit maybe not a winner for this contest. So here is my entry, Mapmaker's top with Tunnel's bottom - i think it is the best of the three i made.
:)                                                      :)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2024, 10:06:55 am »
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Which card did your phrase “When you gain this, you may trash a Treasure from your hand” come from? I can’t seem to find it.

I’m not aware of such a card, though Ducat has this verbiage for “Copper”.

Separately, the card seems too strong for $3.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2024, 11:29:56 am »
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Yeah, it is an obvious $4. Opening Double Prospector could very well be a bonkers money strategy .
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2024, 02:49:33 pm »
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I'm more worried about the silver gaining part. What this mainly does is make BM+Prospector much stronger than it would otherwise be -- and it would otherwise be very strong. Drawing cards is good, the on-gain is good, the coffers are amazing, and the free silvers are also amazing (... if you're playing a big money strategy). That's a lot to put on one card. As is, I think BM+Prospector would buy 4 Provinces very quickly; I wouldn't be surprised if it's significantly faster than Rebuild.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2024, 04:59:15 pm »
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100% right. The on-gain does not exist, so I replaced it with Ducat's on gain.

It also costs $4 now, meaning you (usually) can't open double Prospector, and you'd need $5 to utilize the on-gain effect.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2024, 05:46:21 pm »
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Don’t forget to mark your previous submission as withdrawn/updated.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2024, 02:09:42 am »
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If I have a card with a sentence I want to use that references its own name, is it allowed to replace the name with the name of the submitted card, or do the sentences have to be used verbatim?

Example: Cultist has the wording "You may play a Cultist from your hand" Can I replace "Cultist" with the name of the submitted card?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2024, 03:06:40 am »
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If I have a card with a sentence I want to use that references its own name, is it allowed to replace the name with the name of the submitted card, or do the sentences have to be used verbatim?

Example: Cultist has the wording "You may play a Cultist from your hand" Can I replace "Cultist" with the name of the submitted card?

Please use sentences verbatim.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2024, 06:20:51 pm »
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Elegant workaround: "You may play a Cultist from your hand, where "Cultist" means "[card name]".

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2024, 06:28:27 pm »
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100% right. The on-gain does not exist, so I replaced it with Ducat's on gain.

It also costs $4 now, meaning you (usually) can't open double Prospector, and you'd need $5 to utilize the on-gain effect.

<Prospector>
You can still put the "Gain a treasure costing up to $3 more" part since it's a separate sentence. Unless you removed it on purpose to make it slightly weaker ofc.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2024, 07:14:25 pm »
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Horse Market
$4 - Action - Reaction.
+$1.
+1 Buy.
Gain a Horse.
Discard any number of cards for +$1 each.
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When you discard this other than in clean-up, you may play it.

I feel like this might be strong for $4, but too weak for $5, so I might tweak it.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2024, 08:40:28 pm »
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Elegant workaround: "You may play a Cultist from your hand, where "Cultist" means "[card name]".
On which card did you find this sentence? :P
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2024, 09:32:19 pm »
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24 Hour Warning
Current submissions:
  • Commune by kru5h
  • Bounty/Vigilante by Optimal_Inefficiency
  • Golden Goose by NoMoreFun
  • Holy Grail by grrgrrgrr
  • Prospector by SirGriffin
  • Tunnel Map by BryGuy
  • Horse Market by LibraryAdventurer
  • Monk by JW
  • Unnamed by Tiago
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2024, 09:43:40 pm »
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24 Hour Warning
Current submissions:
  • Commune by kru5h
  • Bounty/Vigilante by Optimal_Inefficiency
  • Usurper by NoMoreFun
  • Holy Grail by grrgrrgrr
  • Prospector by SirGriffin
  • Tunnel Map by BryGuy
You missed mint, I mean mine
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #235: Polly Want a Cracker!
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2024, 11:36:52 pm »
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New entry:
Monk
$4 - Action
+3 Cards. +1 Buy. You may trash a Copper from your hand. Each other player may trash a card from their hand.
 
Notes: Smithy with a buy and trashing! But be careful, your opponent will often make better use of the trashing than you, especially early on.

Old entry: Galley
$6 - Action Duration
+3 Cards and +1 Buy
At the start of your next turn, +1 Action and $1.

Notes: Wharf should have cost $6, don’t make that your point of comparison.

If I happen to win, I can’t judge the next contest.
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