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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #800 on: October 09, 2024, 02:16:30 pm »

ok, I did mean to be here at deadline I just like, actually got into the flow writing an article I've been trying to write for weeks. Robz knows the feel I'm sure.

anyway I guess we got an exile?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #801 on: October 09, 2024, 07:36:36 pm »

yikes this is a late flip!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #802 on: October 09, 2024, 08:35:18 pm »

I know this is crazy. Though didds not coming to check in at all gives me great hope
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #803 on: October 09, 2024, 10:08:05 pm »

He's probably playing Dominant Species and we won't see him for a week!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #804 on: October 10, 2024, 01:25:07 am »

Day 3 Final Vote Count

WestCoastDidds (5): jotheonah, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, shraeye, Robz888
Awaclus (1): Cuzz
mcmcsalot (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds

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With 8 alive, it took 5 to exile.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 3)
« Reply #805 on: October 10, 2024, 01:29:12 am »

The Crew takes an already strict game and adds more rules to restrict the player. You're not allowed to talk, not allowed to plan, not allowed to strategize, and yet it's a game that needs cooperation. If any of that doesn't sound appealing, then you're likely going to move on from The Crew pretty quickly. There will be a time and a place for The Crew, but it will be few and far between sessions when you have anything more exciting to play.
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WestCoastDidds has been removed from the shelf! They were The Crew: The Quest for Planet Nine, Kennerspiel des Jahres 2020, a Mafia Goon.

Night 3 starts now and lasts at least 48 hours. Night actions are due by October 12, 2024, 01:30:00 am.

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #806 on: October 12, 2024, 01:51:00 am »

After putting Catan away for awhile it has recently hit the table twice and what a slog it is.

1. The game goes for far too long, players prone to AP can make this classic a nightmarish time hog.

2. The Dice, the evil six sided overlords of Catan. Bad dice rolls & your doing nothing and waiting for another turn to possibly do nothing again. No mitigation = boredom.

3. No balance, once the game gets rolling and a player gets behind there is very little chance of actual catch up or enjoyable play and Catan turns into a take that game.
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EFHW has received a negative review! They were The Settlers of Catan, Spiel des Jahres 1995, a Town Tracker!

Day 4 begins!


Vote Count 4.0


Not Voting (6): Cuzz, mcmcsalot, Awaclus, Robz888, jotheonah, shraeye

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to exile. Day 4 starts now and lasts until October 17, 2024, 02:00:00 am.

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #807 on: October 12, 2024, 08:29:52 am »

So we are at 4/2 and we know mafia and traitor took a minimum of two roles. Town gets one modification to start and we know of two more modifications.

Also if their is another neighborhood we know one of those three players is either a traitor or mafia so I think a second neighborhood claim if it exists would be good.

A restless spirit still has actual power so they should not claim.

We can now trust efhw’s results though knowing that didds was mafia I think it is slightly more likely than usual that didds would do the nk
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #808 on: October 12, 2024, 08:47:22 am »

So we are at 4/2 and we know mafia and traitor took a minimum of two roles. Town gets one modification to start and we know of two more modifications.

Also if their is another neighborhood we know one of those three players is either a traitor or mafia so I think a second neighborhood claim if it exists would be good.

A restless spirit still has actual power so they should not claim.

We can now trust efhw’s results though knowing that didds was mafia I think it is slightly more likely than usual that didds would do the nk

Unless there’s redirecting.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #809 on: October 12, 2024, 08:48:04 am »

So we are at 4/2 and we know mafia and traitor took a minimum of two roles. Town gets one modification to start and we know of two more modifications.

Also if their is another neighborhood we know one of those three players is either a traitor or mafia so I think a second neighborhood claim if it exists would be good.

A restless spirit still has actual power so they should not claim.

We can now trust efhw’s results though knowing that didds was mafia I think it is slightly more likely than usual that didds would do the nk

Unless there’s redirecting.

I dunno if I’d take that as traitor though.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #810 on: October 12, 2024, 08:53:58 am »

So we are at 4/2 and we know mafia and traitor took a minimum of two roles. Town gets one modification to start and we know of two more modifications.

Also if their is another neighborhood we know one of those three players is either a traitor or mafia so I think a second neighborhood claim if it exists would be good.

A restless spirit still has actual power so they should not claim.

We can now trust efhw’s results though knowing that didds was mafia I think it is slightly more likely than usual that didds would do the nk

Unless there’s redirecting.

Right I mean luckily/unfortunately all we got were a no result on robz and awa neither of which are super strong mafia taking the nk candidates and with redirect or as well I agree I don’t think the no result does a whole lot in the way of clearing either of them.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #811 on: October 12, 2024, 08:54:25 am »

So we are at 4/2 and we know mafia and traitor took a minimum of two roles. Town gets one modification to start and we know of two more modifications.

Also if their is another neighborhood we know one of those three players is either a traitor or mafia so I think a second neighborhood claim if it exists would be good.

A restless spirit still has actual power so they should not claim.

We can now trust efhw’s results though knowing that didds was mafia I think it is slightly more likely than usual that didds would do the nk

Unless there’s redirecting.

I dunno if I’d take that as traitor though.

I imagine the remaining scum and traitor know each other, or at least in one direction.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #812 on: October 12, 2024, 09:06:15 am »

Hopefully we can get something helpful from the Didds wagon. Need to reread more carefully but Robz stands out to me given how hard he was fighting against it, which could be scum desperately trying to eke out the win at the last minute. But then he did ultimately vote for Didds, which helped town and doesn’t even earn much bussing credit if he is scum so I dunno.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #813 on: October 12, 2024, 09:16:07 am »

I feel like it’s very likely Robz. Actually Robz-Cuzz is a pretty strong possibility based on how the end of day went, if I’m remembering things correctly. (inb4 Robz accuses me of flip-flopping on Cuzz again).

I should update you all that we’re now one week away from baby’s due date and I am getting slightly nervous about what happens to this game if baby comes early, which would likely result in a sudden and long V/LA that could really screw things up the closer we get to endgame. So I’m proactively reaching out to faust to request replacement, but in the meantime I’ll keep playing until he finds someone.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #814 on: October 12, 2024, 09:22:50 am »

Cuzz-Robz is actually not a strong possibility.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #815 on: October 12, 2024, 09:24:39 am »

And congrats again! There are plenty of things to be nervous about but this game should probably be at the bottom of that list.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #816 on: October 12, 2024, 02:00:22 pm »

Well my reads were wrong, surprise surprise. Or at least partly wrong. We should all probably go back and see how the WCD wagon got built.

The only person still alive who did not join the WCD wagon is Cuzz, so he should automatically be a suspect at this point. Then again it's clear that at least one scum did bus WCD.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #817 on: October 12, 2024, 02:02:22 pm »

I feel like it’s very likely Robz. Actually Robz-Cuzz is a pretty strong possibility based on how the end of day went, if I’m remembering things correctly. (inb4 Robz accuses me of flip-flopping on Cuzz again).

This is not a strong possibility, in fact it's virtually impossible. If it's me and Cuzz, we could have both declined to vote for didds and there would have been no exile, putting the scum team of didds-Robz-Cuzz in a likely winning position.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #818 on: October 12, 2024, 03:55:53 pm »

I feel like it’s very likely Robz. Actually Robz-Cuzz is a pretty strong possibility based on how the end of day went, if I’m remembering things correctly. (inb4 Robz accuses me of flip-flopping on Cuzz again).

This is not a strong possibility, in fact it's virtually impossible. If it's me and Cuzz, we could have both declined to vote for didds and there would have been no exile, putting the scum team of didds-Robz-Cuzz in a likely winning position.

A winning position? Who exactly would we be exiling today in that scenario of not one of the three of you?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #819 on: October 12, 2024, 04:45:38 pm »

Actually, I'm gonna call the whole team: mcmc, joth, shraeye

I came to play this game!

Robz why did you think it was helpful to try to call the whole team? Why did you have such confidence in your reads?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #820 on: October 12, 2024, 05:35:15 pm »

I’m confident enough to vote: Robz
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #821 on: October 12, 2024, 05:40:43 pm »

I’m confident enough to vote: Robz

Why are you confident enough in anything to do anything?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #822 on: October 12, 2024, 05:41:14 pm »

Still in exlo folks
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #823 on: October 12, 2024, 06:14:19 pm »

The first vote on someone is safe though.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #824 on: October 12, 2024, 06:15:08 pm »

Also I'm a bit VLA and very drunk tonight, I'll probably do some re-reading tomorrow.
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