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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #775 on: October 09, 2024, 01:40:52 pm »

I really think it's shraeye, mcmc, and joth. I will not vote for didds.

Is there not a world for you where it is shraeye, joth, didds?

If that was the case, why did you not join me when I pursued shraeye, or when I pursued joth?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #776 on: October 09, 2024, 01:40:58 pm »

I really think it's shraeye, mcmc, and joth. I will not vote for didds.

Is there not a world for you where it is shraeye, joth, didds?

You refuse to vote didds because I am the one pushing the didds case and you find me scummy because I don't love your joth case but you still haven't offered any read of didds independent of this incredulous chain of players
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #777 on: October 09, 2024, 01:43:23 pm »

Your case that didds' reads were inconsistent is itself inconsistent, as you have not pointed out any real inconsistencies—or I missed them. And again you ignored the very gaping inconsistency that Joth was guilty of.

I don't really have an independent opinion on didds or Cuzz, like if you forced me to describe what I find as townie about them I would not come up with anything. But I've got concrete scummy things on three other players so I'm going with that!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #778 on: October 09, 2024, 01:44:35 pm »

I mean, gah, do we outright lose if we No Exile? I'd sooner switch to didds than do that, I guess.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #779 on: October 09, 2024, 01:46:37 pm »

If there's no one around who will switch to mcmc, I suppose I have no choice but to vote for didds.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #780 on: October 09, 2024, 01:46:58 pm »

Your case that didds' reads were inconsistent is itself inconsistent, as you have not pointed out any real inconsistencies—or I missed them. And again you ignored the very gaping inconsistency that Joth was guilty of.

I don't really have an independent opinion on didds or Cuzz, like if you forced me to describe what I find as townie about them I would not come up with anything. But I've got concrete scummy things on three other players so I'm going with that!

Click the three quotes in my post and read them. Didds literally says they town read lalight and scum read swowl and then less than 24 hours later they will not vote swowl and want to exhile lalight!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #781 on: October 09, 2024, 01:47:43 pm »

Hate this

Vote: Didds
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #782 on: October 09, 2024, 01:48:09 pm »

Your case that didds' reads were inconsistent is itself inconsistent, as you have not pointed out any real inconsistencies—or I missed them. And again you ignored the very gaping inconsistency that Joth was guilty of.

I don't really have an independent opinion on didds or Cuzz, like if you forced me to describe what I find as townie about them I would not come up with anything. But I've got concrete scummy things on three other players so I'm going with that!

Click the three quotes in my post and read them. Didds literally says they town read lalight and scum read swowl and then less than 24 hours later they will not vote swowl and want to exhile lalight!
So? You don't scumread Joth for doing that.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #783 on: October 09, 2024, 01:48:42 pm »

Hate this

Vote: Didds
This is scummy. Is no exile worse than misexile? I thought it wasn't.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #784 on: October 09, 2024, 01:49:54 pm »

If we have exileproof Traitor it's losing to No Exile.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #785 on: October 09, 2024, 01:50:32 pm »

Your case that didds' reads were inconsistent is itself inconsistent, as you have not pointed out any real inconsistencies—or I missed them. And again you ignored the very gaping inconsistency that Joth was guilty of.

I don't really have an independent opinion on didds or Cuzz, like if you forced me to describe what I find as townie about them I would not come up with anything. But I've got concrete scummy things on three other players so I'm going with that!

Click the three quotes in my post and read them. Didds literally says they town read lalight and scum read swowl and then less than 24 hours later they will not vote swowl and want to exhile lalight!
So? You don't scumread Joth for doing that.

Dear sweet beautiful spaghetti man in the sky...Joth did it over the course of multiple IN-GAME days you know like a week plus of time and talking...Didds did it in 24 hours
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #786 on: October 09, 2024, 01:51:59 pm »

I'm not voting to get an exile this time. I don't think Didds is scum and there's enough of a case to vote mcmc.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #787 on: October 09, 2024, 01:53:57 pm »

Sorry folks I had work urgencies arise.

Fwiw I was gonna hammer Didds also so feel free to assign me some of the blame if that’s wrong.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #788 on: October 09, 2024, 01:54:14 pm »

If we have exileproof Traitor it's losing to No Exile.

Maybe we have one, but I think the likelihood of having one is much less than the likelihood of not having one.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #789 on: October 09, 2024, 01:54:33 pm »

I really think it's shraeye, mcmc, and joth. I will not vote for didds.

Is there not a world for you where it is shraeye, joth, didds?

If that was the case, why did you not join me when I pursued shraeye, or when I pursued joth?

So on Day 1, either ALL the scum are on the wagon, or either shraeye or Awaclus is scum.

Ditto for Day 2, except it's shraeye or WCD (or me, in fairness).

Process of elimination seems to point to shraeye, although it seems a little weird to punish him for NOT exiling townies.

I also think dids is scum. Was waiting to vote till I could go back and do a re-read but the outrage for the swowl exhile feels really fake scummy

I actually initial found that your analysis matched my vibe that didds was scummy and that promted me to look deeper there.

I’m not sold on shraeye being scummy but I don’t read him well at all. Awaclus I think I am getting better at but I need to re-read him

here is why I didn't follow you to vote and pursue shraeye, I don't read him well so your analysis isn't enough to get me to vote but I didnt disagree, I just wasnt sold.

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #790 on: October 09, 2024, 01:54:45 pm »

vote: Didds in case my count is off
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #791 on: October 09, 2024, 01:54:51 pm »

If I'm right, I am calling on Cuzz and Awaclus to recognize what's happening here... Awaclus, shraeye is casting doubt on your claim because he's scum.

I don't want to comment on this.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #792 on: October 09, 2024, 01:58:37 pm »

If Didds flips town, then I think we might just have a McRobzalot team.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #793 on: October 09, 2024, 01:59:17 pm »

If Didds flips town, then I think we might just have a McRobzalot team.

Well, if Didds flips town, we just lose, don't we?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #794 on: October 09, 2024, 02:01:42 pm »

If Didds flips town, then I think we might just have a McRobzalot team.

Well, if Didds flips town, we just lose, don't we?
Just venting.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #795 on: October 09, 2024, 02:02:59 pm »

If Didds flips town, then I think we might just have a McRobzalot team.

Well, if Didds flips town, we just lose, don't we?

I was just going to say that but there are what 5/2/1 misexhile is 4/2/1, nk is 3/2/1

Though edgecase of a restless spirit being that nk means we would still have a vote so I think we technically could be in it even with misexhile?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #796 on: October 09, 2024, 02:07:00 pm »

Also lets not do that thing I definitely did in the bomb game where someone goes...wait how does that role which I am clearly not work again...
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #797 on: October 09, 2024, 02:11:19 pm »

Dear sweet beautiful spaghetti man in the sky

How did you come up with THAT?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #798 on: October 09, 2024, 02:12:08 pm »

Uh we did get an exile right? I see at least six votes for didds
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #799 on: October 09, 2024, 02:13:02 pm »

faust is villain laughing in a chair whilst petting a cat I know it
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