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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #750 on: October 09, 2024, 12:07:25 pm »

Vote: mcmcsalot

I'm shocked he doesn't find my joth case more compelling, and I think that's probably because they are both scum. Joth and mcmc are playing VERY differently from their established town metas. They're saying that's because they're busy or lazy or over committed. I don't believe.

I'll move to mcmc since the votes are there.

Meh I dunno I reread joth and he it doesn't feel like he flipped his read on cuzz unnaturally and thats like your whole case right?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #751 on: October 09, 2024, 12:07:53 pm »

Actually, I'm gonna call the whole team: mcmc, joth, shraeye

I came to play this game!

What do you find towny about didds
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #752 on: October 09, 2024, 12:45:09 pm »

Vote Count 3.4

WestCoastDidds (3): jotheonah, Awaclus, mcmcsalot
Awaclus (1): Cuzz
mcmcsalot (3): EFHW, WestCoastDidds, Robz888

Not Voting (1): shraeye

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to exile. Day 3 lasts until October 09, 2024, 02:10:00 pm. This is in about 1 hour and 25 minutes.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #753 on: October 09, 2024, 12:59:11 pm »

This is depressing. How are we going to get an exile today?

Cuzz and shraeye, would you like to move your votes somewhere useful?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #754 on: October 09, 2024, 01:05:47 pm »

Huh. Well, no exile is better than a misexile for us because at least then we live to fight another day. But of course, scum will push for an exile no matter what.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #755 on: October 09, 2024, 01:09:53 pm »

I'm here slightly, ive been in nonstop work mode since yesterday (midterms).  I don't see Awaclus' claims of town neighbor as bulletproof in any way, agree with (somebody?) that it's strange mcmc took it as such
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #756 on: October 09, 2024, 01:10:33 pm »

Huh. Well, no exile is better than a misexile for us because at least then we live to fight another day. But of course, scum will push for an exile no matter what.
On surface, yes. Noexile is better than misexile...but even noexile might just instantly lose
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #757 on: October 09, 2024, 01:11:19 pm »

I’m heading into a session. Y’all, please don’t lose this for us!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #758 on: October 09, 2024, 01:13:00 pm »

If that's a coordinated 1v1 to set up the winner as "town"...I'm probably picking Awaclus as the third if that's the case. so vote: mcmc is terrible.

Can you spell this out? I'm not seeing how voting mcmc is terrible. What do you think now that Awaclus has claimed?
I was thinking, if joth/Didds were able to plan "let's vote each other and fight tomorrow, whoever survives has big town cred".  That line of thought means that the third would be traitor. I think it's more likely that traitor would take the nbr power than the regular scum.  So, again it all points to nbr not being autotown.

Which is to say, still sus on Awaclus.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #759 on: October 09, 2024, 01:13:13 pm »

Huh. Well, no exile is better than a misexile for us because at least then we live to fight another day.

Only if there is no exileproof traitor.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #760 on: October 09, 2024, 01:17:32 pm »

I hate this tossup,

vote: didds
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #761 on: October 09, 2024, 01:18:25 pm »

interesting multiple people stating that either the traitor would elect to become a neighbor over exhileproof/knowing mafia or that mafia chose to become a neighbor and then immediately kill their neighbor. Seems very unlikely to me. If only days ago we had discussed some of our thought on what mafia and/or traitor would take in this setup and now we would have something to compare those statements too...
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #762 on: October 09, 2024, 01:20:49 pm »

Before you ask me why, I'll just say that I scumread him for a reason I prefer not to disclose right now.

wanna disclose this reason now since days going to be over in 30 min?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #763 on: October 09, 2024, 01:27:47 pm »

Actually, I'm gonna call the whole team: mcmc, joth, shraeye

I came to play this game!

What do you find towny about didds

Why is it scummy for didds to change reads but not when Joth does it?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #764 on: October 09, 2024, 01:28:45 pm »

I'm here slightly, ive been in nonstop work mode since yesterday (midterms).  I don't see Awaclus' claims of town neighbor as bulletproof in any way, agree with (somebody?) that it's strange mcmc took it as such

This is so wrong! Awaclus is very, very very likely town. As is EFHW.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #765 on: October 09, 2024, 01:29:20 pm »

Oops, that was responding to the wrong shraeye post, hold on.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #766 on: October 09, 2024, 01:29:49 pm »

Argh no nvm, that is the one I wanted to address.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #767 on: October 09, 2024, 01:30:37 pm »

Some people have consistently tried to poke holes in the claims, even though they are very likely to be true. This is something scum often do because they are frustrated at having ICs emerge. I know this from experience.

Extremely, extremely scummy response from shraeye.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #768 on: October 09, 2024, 01:31:05 pm »

I really think it's shraeye, mcmc, and joth. I will not vote for didds.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #769 on: October 09, 2024, 01:32:06 pm »

If I'm right, I am calling on Cuzz and Awaclus to recognize what's happening here... Awaclus, shraeye is casting doubt on your claim because he's scum.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #770 on: October 09, 2024, 01:33:50 pm »

If I'm right, I am calling on Cuzz and Awaclus to recognize what's happening here... Awaclus, shraeye is casting doubt on your claim because he's scum.
Kinda sounds like you're mad because I picked right.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #771 on: October 09, 2024, 01:34:21 pm »

Actually, I'm gonna call the whole team: mcmc, joth, shraeye

I came to play this game!

What do you find towny about didds

Why is it scummy for didds to change reads but not when Joth does it?

Because didds flipped two reads in 24 hours...joth flipped his read over multiple in game days



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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #772 on: October 09, 2024, 01:36:11 pm »

Actually, I'm gonna call the whole team: mcmc, joth, shraeye

I came to play this game!

What do you find towny about didds

Why is it scummy for didds to change reads but not when Joth does it?

Because didds flipped two reads in 24 hours...joth flipped his read over multiple in game days




Those look like consistent reads to me, am I missing something or are you just making it up because you're scum
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #773 on: October 09, 2024, 01:36:42 pm »

If I'm right, I am calling on Cuzz and Awaclus to recognize what's happening here... Awaclus, shraeye is casting doubt on your claim because he's scum.
Kinda sounds like you're mad because I picked right.

I'm mad because it's so obvious what you're doing and no one else seems to recognize it. Or just, the people I need are not around.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #774 on: October 09, 2024, 01:37:54 pm »

I really think it's shraeye, mcmc, and joth. I will not vote for didds.

Is there not a world for you where it is shraeye, joth, didds?
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