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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #425 on: September 30, 2024, 02:49:04 am »

Mod: Are neighbors told everyone who is in the neighborhood, or do they discover it from who shows up?
The intention is that they know everyone (and I don't think in Discord it would be possible to handle it otherwise).
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #426 on: September 30, 2024, 02:51:23 am »

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #427 on: September 30, 2024, 07:00:56 am »

I’m a little lost I have to confess. I completely disagree with LaLight but I find him townie. I find EFHW scummy but I don’t think that exile is happening and it’s probably not tactically correct. Are there even any other wagons that aren’t on me? Do I need to like reread and come up with my own case or something?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #428 on: September 30, 2024, 07:02:01 am »

In retrospect going from no mafia to three games in a row was maybe a mistake.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #429 on: September 30, 2024, 07:40:49 am »

Do I need to like reread and come up with my own case or something?

You are allowed to vote for people without having a case.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #430 on: September 30, 2024, 07:42:07 am »

It's a bit more effective if they don't know you don't have a case, but it does still count towards exiling them, so it's better than nothing in any case.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #431 on: September 30, 2024, 07:44:07 am »

Do I need to like reread and come up with my own case or something?

You are allowed to vote for people without having a case.

Well yea but the trick is knowing whom to vote for you see.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #432 on: September 30, 2024, 08:56:35 am »

I’m a little lost I have to confess. I completely disagree with LaLight but I find him townie. I find EFHW scummy but I don’t think that exile is happening and it’s probably not tactically correct. Are there even any other wagons that aren’t on me? Do I need to like reread and come up with my own case or something?

honestly, I'm a little lost too. i feel like level of activity in this game is pretty low from pretty much everyone and the day ends tomorrow, so we're probably going to get a last minute exile or no exile :(
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #433 on: September 30, 2024, 08:56:49 am »

hard to make cases, when no one posts
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #434 on: September 30, 2024, 08:57:07 am »

i post, but don't make cases on me
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #435 on: September 30, 2024, 09:04:04 am »

prod: Robz888
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #436 on: September 30, 2024, 10:03:47 am »

Ok, vote: mcmc. Galzria suspected him and calling Cuzz's question towny was a thing I also noticed. Mcmc, maybe you can say where that thought came from?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #437 on: September 30, 2024, 11:13:37 am »

Ok, vote: mcmc. Galzria suspected him and calling Cuzz's question towny was a thing I also noticed. Mcmc, maybe you can say where that thought came from?

I think I said at the time. It promoted discussion, I didn’t think of the traitor implication and otherwise thought it was something that only scum would have to potentially lie about because town didn’t have any decision’s to make regarding the modifications. So it felt like a pro-town thing to do.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #438 on: September 30, 2024, 11:39:14 am »

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #439 on: September 30, 2024, 12:06:22 pm »

Ok, vote: mcmc. Galzria suspected him and calling Cuzz's question towny was a thing I also noticed. Mcmc, maybe you can say where that thought came from?

I think I said at the time. It promoted discussion, I didn’t think of the traitor implication and otherwise thought it was something that only scum would have to potentially lie about because town didn’t have any decision’s to make regarding the modifications. So it felt like a pro-town thing to do.

Right, right, I remember that. I was wondering why you labelled it at all.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #440 on: September 30, 2024, 12:31:22 pm »

I don't think Cuzz'question is any scummy, we needed to start a conversation and this topic starter is as good as any

We did need a topic starter, but this is the kind that leads town to say too much and hand the game to scum.

EFHW, can you help me understand? How could town reveal too much? It’s not like we got any choices
I'm just speaking from experience.

Ok rereading day 1 this seems to lend some credence to EFHW being a PR. If I'm reading between the lines right.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #441 on: September 30, 2024, 12:33:48 pm »

Let's try vote: Cuzz

We had a Cuzz wagon day 1 and it wasn't a terrible idea. It kind of got derailed mainly because EFHW voted for it in a scummy way and then the wagon turned to her. But EFHW IS town, we should really look at Cuzz again.

In addition to starting the speculation about mods, Cuzz feels a little off to me from his town meta, and he seemed awfully defensive day 1 on a quite small wagon.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #442 on: September 30, 2024, 01:28:35 pm »

prod: Robz888
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While I understand the rules technically say prods after 24 hours, I feel a little annoyed about a prod of me being requested when 1) it was a weekend, and 2) I did have a post making a point of substance just two days ago.

I have drunkenly skimmed the messages for the last few pages so forgive me if I missed something essential but I have to say this: EFHW is overwhelmingly likely to be telling the truth, no? No counter claiim, it could get dicey for her eventually, Galz dying instead seems like clear mafia decision to kill a strong town player and leave alive a PR in order to mislead us… I would say I’m 80/20 on this being legit. If we had newbies in this game I would understand them being skeptical, but people who’ve played 20+ games on this forum should know this sort of claim is true in vast majority of cases right?

I'm going to resist the urge to vote LL out of annoyance, though.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #443 on: September 30, 2024, 01:32:33 pm »

@Lalight and Didds - Why did you each react so strongly to my Cuzz vote?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #444 on: September 30, 2024, 01:33:03 pm »

Mcmc is muted compared to his usual town performance, that's something. However, it feels wrong to be all like "wow you aren't MR PRO-TOWN this game, you have to get exiled."

Swowl is not telegraphing town to the same degree as usual.

WestCoastDidds' strategy of having a high posting strategy of significant non-game related materials is... typical for them, right? I would not hate a wagon there.

LaLight seems like he's worried about getting exiled at the last minute, which could be for a variety of reasons.

My familiarity with what shraeye has contributed this game is... not significant.

I am mostly just as lost as everyone else, except I think EFHW is like obv town.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #445 on: September 30, 2024, 01:34:06 pm »

Oh, the Cuzz stuff. Sure. Vote: Cuzz
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #446 on: September 30, 2024, 01:57:41 pm »

prod: Robz888
Robz888 has been prodded.

While I understand the rules technically say prods after 24 hours, I feel a little annoyed about a prod of me being requested when 1) it was a weekend, and 2) I did have a post making a point of substance just two days ago.

I have drunkenly skimmed the messages for the last few pages so forgive me if I missed something essential but I have to say this: EFHW is overwhelmingly likely to be telling the truth, no? No counter claiim, it could get dicey for her eventually, Galz dying instead seems like clear mafia decision to kill a strong town player and leave alive a PR in order to mislead us… I would say I’m 80/20 on this being legit. If we had newbies in this game I would understand them being skeptical, but people who’ve played 20+ games on this forum should know this sort of claim is true in vast majority of cases right?

I'm going to resist the urge to vote LL out of annoyance, though.

sorry, didn't want to annoy you!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #447 on: September 30, 2024, 02:29:09 pm »

what is this sudden cuzz wagon? i'll vote there for self preservation, but I'd prefer joth, WCD or Swowl any day
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #448 on: September 30, 2024, 02:29:53 pm »

ah, deadline is not tomorrow
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #449 on: September 30, 2024, 03:08:04 pm »

Let’s try elsewhere folks
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