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[Eevee]

Hi don't prod me.

I think if we did a mix, mcmc, cuzz, eevee and joth coalition we'd win. Maybe.

I'm going to sleep now.

i could dig it

i would do this

[jotheonah]

Let's do it.

Remove all

Add: mix, mcmc, cuzz, eevee and joth

[mcmcsalot]

Hi don't prod me.

I think if we did a mix, mcmc, cuzz, eevee and joth coalition we'd win. Maybe.

I'm going to sleep now.

i could dig it

i would do this

I don't love this

[mcmcsalot]

I could potentially be convinced to add Jack into a coalition of some sort if we want to try including the less active players

[Eevee]

I think Jack is towny too. Swap Jack for Mix?

[Robz888]

Robz/joth are you willing to consider the list that’s currently in the majority?

Yes.

[Robz888]

Remove: everyone

Add: Awaclus
Add: mcmc
Add: Robz
Add: Cuzz
Add: MiX

Anyone up for this coalition?

I am fine with this coalition. In fact, isn't this the coalition I'm already supporting?

[Robz888]

Oh, it's Cuzz instead of Joth. I think I'd be fine with that.

[Robz888]

Remove: jotheonah
Add: Cuzz

[Robz888]

Robz/joth are you willing to consider the list that’s currently in the majority?

Ultimately yes. But it’s only in the majority by one vote. I’m more likely to switch to the other competing wagon.

Meaning you think MiX is more likely to be town than I am?

Not really. Maybe marginally. It’s more that I think it’s more interesting to give people equal choices than to contribute to a sort of fait accompli by moving big wagon from 3 to 4.

Let’s do it.

Remove: Eevee, Cuzz
Add: MiX, Awaclus

I think either you are scum or you are just thinking about this game in a way that I really disagree with. The goal of the coalition is to put 5 townies in it and then we win the game, but instead of basing your choices directly on who you think is town you’re doing this weird higher level meta
game stuff.

I still lean town on you because of townie seeming interactions from earlier which is frustrating because I’m tempted to take you off my list but first I’m curious if anyone else has opinions about this.

But like… what are you basing your reads on? There hasn’t been enough posting, play, or interaction for me to trust my reads at all. But what I do know is that scum has a goal here and it’s rather more urgent than town’s goal. If this were a winning coalition, I would expect to see resistance against it and I don’t. Of course I know what follows from that if you haven’t seen my role PM: I am providing that resistance, ergo I’m scum by my own argument. I don’t really know how to get out of that particular intellectual pincer movement. But what I do know is the path of least resistance seems unlikely to succeed.

Which coalition do you think is not a winning coalition because you "would expect to see resistance against it and I don't." Can it really be said that any coalition isn't receiving resistance? So far there's been a consensus to include some combination of the most active players—myself, mcmc, you—and that's about it. I am not seeing some easy coalition automatically materializing.

[Robz888]

I could potentially be convinced to add Jack into a coalition of some sort if we want to try including the less active players

I think Jack is towny too. Swap Jack for Mix?

Why? Jack seems, at best, totally null to me, given no frame of reference. I could also see his sudden participation as something spurred on by a scum partner in daychat.

[mcmcsalot]

I could potentially be convinced to add Jack into a coalition of some sort if we want to try including the less active players

I think Jack is towny too. Swap Jack for Mix?

Why? Jack seems, at best, totally null to me, given no frame of reference. I could also see his sudden participation as something spurred on by a scum partner in daychat.

Totally a possibility his coalition vote not including me seemed towny. Scum!Jack certainly wants me on his side vs town!Jack who based on his forum post count likely knows some of yall from other places on the forum and I am just an unkown vocal force that feels scarier to include from a town!Jack position. Though when I asked him his reason for the coalition vote his answer was less towny then my possible interpretation. I ultimately still strongly prefer my current coalition but I think opening ideas for people is good for us to be able to look back at later.

[Cuzz]

I’m traveling for the long weekend and also trying to get ahead on work so I’m not gonna be able to be as active for the next few irl days until close to deadline. So fwiw my current subjective list of most to least townie is

Cuzz
Mcmc
Joth
Awaclus
Robz
Jack Rudd
Eevee
MiX
scola

For me this maps precisely onto my willingness to put them in my coalition, with of course some willingness to compromise as we get close to deadline to make sure we don’t fail to come up with a consensus. You can infer my willingness to join various wagons from this list while I’m away but I’ll also try to check in and get caught up and modify it as necessary

[Eevee]

I could potentially be convinced to add Jack into a coalition of some sort if we want to try including the less active players

I think Jack is towny too. Swap Jack for Mix?

Why? Jack seems, at best, totally null to me, given no frame of reference. I could also see his sudden participation as something spurred on by a scum partner in daychat.

Just tone. He seems genuine, not coached to me. Of course very little to go on.
Realistically everyone in this game is probably good enough that it's hard to build strong reads before the first flip.

[jotheonah]

Robz/joth are you willing to consider the list that’s currently in the majority?

Ultimately yes. But it’s only in the majority by one vote. I’m more likely to switch to the other competing wagon.

Meaning you think MiX is more likely to be town than I am?

Not really. Maybe marginally. It’s more that I think it’s more interesting to give people equal choices than to contribute to a sort of fait accompli by moving big wagon from 3 to 4.

Let’s do it.

Remove: Eevee, Cuzz
Add: MiX, Awaclus

I think either you are scum or you are just thinking about this game in a way that I really disagree with. The goal of the coalition is to put 5 townies in it and then we win the game, but instead of basing your choices directly on who you think is town you’re doing this weird higher level meta
game stuff.

I still lean town on you because of townie seeming interactions from earlier which is frustrating because I’m tempted to take you off my list but first I’m curious if anyone else has opinions about this.

But like… what are you basing your reads on? There hasn’t been enough posting, play, or interaction for me to trust my reads at all. But what I do know is that scum has a goal here and it’s rather more urgent than town’s goal. If this were a winning coalition, I would expect to see resistance against it and I don’t. Of course I know what follows from that if you haven’t seen my role PM: I am providing that resistance, ergo I’m scum by my own argument. I don’t really know how to get out of that particular intellectual pincer movement. But what I do know is the path of least resistance seems unlikely to succeed.

Which coalition do you think is not a winning coalition because you "would expect to see resistance against it and I don't." Can it really be said that any coalition isn't receiving resistance? So far there's been a consensus to include some combination of the most active players—myself, mcmc, you—and that's about it. I am not seeing some easy coalition automatically materializing.

At the time that I made the post, there was a consensus coalition coming together very quickly. Lots has happened since then.

[jotheonah]

Request vote count

[MiX]

How much time do we have yet?

[Cuzz]

How much time do we have yet?

9/4 i think?

[schadd]

vote count C.4

mcmcsalot (5/5): mcmcsalot, Robz888, Awaclus, jotheonah, Cuzz
Cuzz (5/5): Cuzz, Robz888, jotheonah, mcmcsalot, Awaclus
Awaclus (5/5): Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Robz888, Cuzz, MiX
Robz888 (5/5): Robz888, mcmcsalot, Awaclus, MiX, Cuzz
MiX (5/5): MiX, jotheonah, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Robz888
Eevee (5/5): Eevee, Robz888, jotheonah, mcmcsalot, Cuzz
jotheonah (5/5): MiX, mcmcsalot, Cuzz, Eevee, jotheonah
Jack Rudd (5/5): Jack Rudd, MiX, Robz888, Cuzz, Eevee
scolapasta (5/5): scolapasta, Jack Rudd, mcmcsalot, Eevee, Robz888

the coalition phase ends September 04, 2024, 07:00:00 pm. for the coalition to be selected, five players must vote for the same list of names.

[MiX]

Remove everyone

Add: MiX, Awaclus, mcmc, Robz, Cuzz

[Jack Rudd]

Remove: MiX, Cuzz
Add: scolapasta, mcmcsalot

Same philosophy as before: there are 70 possible coalitions that include me, and 15 of them are all-town; there are 56 that do not include me, and only 1 is all-town.

[Jack Rudd]

What am I saying? 6 are all-town, not one, but it's still a lower probability.

[Cuzz]

Remove: MiX, Cuzz
Add: scolapasta, mcmcsalot

Same philosophy as before: there are 70 possible coalitions that include me, and 15 of them are all-town; there are 56 that do not include me, and only 1 is all-town.

What does any of this have to do with the 4 names in your post who are not you?

[jotheonah]

Hi don't prod me.

I think if we did a mix, mcmc, cuzz, eevee and joth coalition we'd win. Maybe.

I'm going to sleep now.

i could dig it

i would do this

I really don’t like that MiX floated a coalition but didn’t vote for it, Eevee said he’d vote for it, I voted for it, and then neither Eevee nor MiX actually voted for it. And then MiX voted for something else entirely.

[jotheonah]

Remove: Eevee, MiX
Add: Robz, Awaclus